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Elvin
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Endless Revival
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posted June 18, 2016 11:23 AM |
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An option to refuse would be nice.
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magnomagus
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posted June 18, 2016 12:06 PM |
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An option to refuse would be nice.
That feature was implemented a year ago.
@ThGrypn: I only make exceptions to Wh for balance purposes, adding 22 different patterns to the Wh is also extreme amount of work and babysits the player with an unimmersive world
I do not want skillwheels adjusted to the huts if that's what you want to know.
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thGryphn
Promising
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posted June 18, 2016 12:06 PM |
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Elvin said:
An option to refuse would be nice.
You can already refuse, it's not the issue. The phenomenon is the ability to learn skills that's outside what the hero class should be about. And the question is, is it OK to have this feature(?) or should it somehow be stopped?
I was wondering what magno's plan about this is...
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thGryphn
Promising
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posted June 18, 2016 12:09 PM |
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Edited by thGryphn at 12:11, 18 Jun 2016.
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magnomagus said:
Quote:
An option to refuse would be nice.
That feature was implemented a year ago.
@ThGrypn: I only make exceptions to Wh for balance purposes, adding 22 different patterns to the Wh is also extreme amount of work and babysits the player with an unimmersive world
I do not want skillwheels adjusted to the huts if that's what you want to know.
What a phantom post 
I got my answer 
And, no, I wasn't asking in relation to the skillwheel, but for the skill system in general.
PS: magno, I don't think you read my last PM 
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LarkinVB
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posted June 18, 2016 08:36 PM |
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There is a town abilty stating you can buy balista at normal price but when buying they do cost the same as in the next players town without that ability (3000 GP).
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magnomagus
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modding wizard
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posted June 18, 2016 08:51 PM |
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted June 18, 2016 08:52 PM |
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I thought I remembered you could refuse but the question threw me off.
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LarkinVB
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posted June 18, 2016 10:29 PM |
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magnomagus said:
which faction was it?
Elves had the town with discount and necro paid same price.
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Mario
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posted June 19, 2016 12:09 PM |
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Enemy hero Orson walks too slow on Adventure Map
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magnomagus
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posted June 19, 2016 05:12 PM |
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 UPDATE
RC8 Released
Download
Here follows the txt of article on moddb with promotional screenshots that is awaiting authorization:
Finally with great thanks to the efforts of community member ThGryphn, MMH5.5 will now include a fully-functional skillwheel with mouse-over descriptions. This was a monumental task to be completed requiring thousands of xml files and txt and icon links. The skillwheel will be similar in functionality to the TOE skillwheel made by Xazardous, but the graphics quality will be better because the engine loads the individual icons instead of having them embedded in the background textures. Skill descriptions are also greatly improved (literally hundreds of fixes), many skills have descriptions seperated in basic and advanced info for better readability.
Deflaktor has also been busy again lately in the hex-editor:
-Fixed issue with simultaneous turns stop when player buys ship.
-Balanced initiative mini-artifacts for academy, 0.75 per K.
-Balanced magic protection mini-artifact, max 55% magic proof.
-Balanced luck & morale artifacts, knowledge/12
Skill System
Along with the new skillwheel will be many improvements to the skill system, we have decided the game is much better without any ultimate skills or other skills that need extra requirements. In RC8 the last ultimate skills are removed and replaced with better balanced skills that offer more tactical variety. The system is now perfectly symmetrical and much easier to use since it has no difficult to memorize requirements.
-8 new skills: dwarven treasures, hold the line, suppress light, emissary of darkness, runic knowledge, cursed ground, demonic ancestry, agonizing strike
-removed haunted mines (was exploitable and failed its purpose anyway).
-removed arcane omniscience, absolute protection & dwarven resistance
-preparation has no extra requirements but hero gets an attack penalty of -2 to balance it.
-Occultism, SP boost was OP on warlocks, now gives +1,+2,+3 and double of that if the hero has no destructive magic, instead more power can be gained from exorcism perk
-Exorcism gives +2 SP and +4 if the hero has summoning magic, all in all you can make many different SP boost combos
-Cultmaster: improved growth and based on knowledge not hero level.
-Guardian angel renamed to divine guardians: allows to boost T7 growth by 1 for one hero max.
-Elemental balance: summons elementals like shatter skill.
-the amount of summoned elementals from shatter skills is not capped per hero, but capped per player (30 max per town)
-Forest guardian: gives war dancers on daily basis above lvl 10
-imp scavengers: easier formula.
-March of golems: gives extra golems on daily basis above lvl 10
-Master of life: gives resurrection spell if hero has expert light magic.
-tremors: dmg increased to 120+12*SP.
-defense skill shows true balanced ratings.
-forge master adds 20% magic proof
-Offensive/defensive formations max boost lowered to 6
-Tap runes: knowledge/3
-Fine rune 40% chance.
-Graduate: gives more experience per hero level.
-Academy award: gives more gold per hero level.
-Intelligence boosts mana by 40%
-Prayer doesn't give +2 Defense to necro (doesn't make sense), instead they get mass divine strength. Tip: this spell is very effective on vampire princes and skeleton warriors.
-back to the void also gives +2 attack
-goblin support: gives 0.5 gold per goblin and only 1 goblin per day (was too weak, but still exploitable)
-Mentoring no longer gives +2 Knowledge, but now refined mana does.
-chieftains get a penalty if they take empathy (just don't take it, won't affect AI)
-witch hut no longer teach learning to stronghold heroes.
-Hero combat is adjusted to do less damage against t1-3 and slightly less dmg to t4-5, but Critical hit improved to 50% and no restrictions on unstoppable charge.
-Word of the chief is much more useful, gives more rage points and does less dmg to t1-5 (because of hero combat rebalance)
Rune Magic
The balance of Fortress with rune magic was still heavily problematic from a compettitive multiplayer perspective. In order to fix this issue the rune magic skill has completely revised perks and branches. The greater rune skill is removed to prevent excessive rune spamming in the final battle. Runes themselves are more expensive each one costs 1 ore (to make the stone) and an amount of a special resource equal to the level of the rune (to make the effect). For example the extremely powerful battle rage rune costs 1 ore & 5 gems. Rune of Charge will be moved to level 5 because it is actually extremely powerful and otherwise converts the whole faction into something it isn't (an offensive rusher faction). Rune of Resurrection is lowered to 30% and Dragonform doesn't give any magic proof.
Take in mind while playing fortress rune magic is really a late game skill. For runemages it will include 3 new perks that help bridge the early stages of the game. For other classes it is recommended not to develop the skill too early.
-The IMBAness of Dark Magic and the Tome of Dark Magic will be gone completely in this version.
-Frenzy will become a much weaker lvl 3 spell that can only be cast on friendly units to give them a huge damage boost.
-puppet master has a shorter duration modifier (0.033 per SP)
-Cost of blind increased to 18.
Various
-Fixed walking speed of Duncan & Death Knights
-Improved Sunlight to be more H6 like
-Fixed color temperature issues with snow textures
-made snow textures less hurting to eyes
-all basic level buff/nerf spells have a minimum duration of 2 instead of 1
-all none level buff/nerf spells have a minimum duration of 1.5 instead of 1
-artifacts that can summon elementals are now knowledge dependant.
-Angel wings are balanced vs other ultimate items and also give +2 Luck & morale.
-nerfed armor of dragon gods gives +5, not +6 in every stat.
-Horned leaper 10% +5% dmg per leaped cell (retaliation also adjusted accordingly)
-Fortress T3 upgrades -2 defense (exceeded power rating)
-Fixed critical issue with matewa spec
-Fixed bad morale lower ATB too much
-Fixed AI supply network messages in hot pursuit & in search for power.
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thGryphn
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posted June 19, 2016 06:05 PM |
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Awesome, finally! 
magno, did you go back to 'emissary of darkness' instead of 'the wild hunt'? Because the skillwheel was using the latter icon...
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magnomagus
Admirable
Legendary Hero
modding wizard
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posted June 19, 2016 06:23 PM |
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Antalyan
Promising
Supreme Hero
H7 Forever
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posted June 19, 2016 06:42 PM |
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted June 19, 2016 06:52 PM |
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Some very nice ideas. I have a question, how do you measure a unit's power rating? I remember alci(and someone else?) developed one but I had a feeling it was not very accurate.
You also mentioned hero combat, do you mean direct hero dmg or have you managed to only affect the damage of combat maneuvers like mark of the damned and retaliation strike?
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magnomagus
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posted June 19, 2016 07:00 PM |
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@Antalyan: a lot if text improvements are just improvements to english text not necessarily a skill change, so your first priority is to make the changes in the list. With the free software attribute changer you can update all the dates to overwrite my files.
The quality of the Czech text and whether you want to use 'advanced' txt is basically up to you.
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thGryphn
Promising
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posted June 19, 2016 07:13 PM |
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magnomagus said:
Yes, the skillwheel from dredknight will still require a few updates.
No, I was talking about my skillwheel. The version I sent you uses the wild hunt icon. I was under the impression that the perk would be called wild hunt, not emissary of darkness...
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LarkinVB
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posted June 19, 2016 07:33 PM |
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Edited by LarkinVB at 19:33, 19 Jun 2016.
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Thanks again. Will there be problems playing a v7a hotseat saved game ?
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Mario
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posted June 19, 2016 07:38 PM |
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Thank you very much! Great work!
Is xuxo PRT 0.3 is still compatible with your mod?
Are you fix issue with governor bonus when hero is in Town garrison?
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magnomagus
Admirable
Legendary Hero
modding wizard
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posted June 19, 2016 08:43 PM |
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Full changelist on moddb is now available:
MMH5.5 RC8 Changelist
added the following:
-Vilma & Inga swap classes & specs
-Nebiros has melee specialty, his previous specialty icon is moved to barbarian skillwheel
-Leadership for necro follows +2,+4,+6 pattern to match occultism
-Fixed governor in garrison not adding extra creatures from artifacts.
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magnomagus
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posted June 19, 2016 08:56 PM |
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Some very nice ideas. I have a question, how do you measure a unit's power rating? I remember alci(and someone else?) developed one but I had a feeling it was not very accurate.
Actually I'm more interested in the growth rates, the power ratings follow from them. It is not possible to measure power ratings with exact science because of abilities. Also the power rating seem to be only used for necromancy outside that they have little meaning. To check if a creature is overpowered the best practice is to compare it to multiple similar creatures with similar growth and power ratings and notice if there are suspiciously large bonuses.
There never was a system in the game to separate between different types of hero combat dmg.
@Larkin: there will no doubt be many dysfunctional stuff but don't know if it creates a gamebreaking CTD.
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