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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted May 26, 2015 10:52 PM |
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Expectations: reached
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It is with a heavy heart that I must announce that the cis are at it again.
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Conduit
Tavern Dweller
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posted May 27, 2015 06:03 AM |
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EnergyZ said: Has it occurred to you it is not about pushing the beta date, but how info was handled?
You got it dead on!! Who waits till a few days before launch to make sure everything is ok. They had to of known of these issues before they did their live steam on it. Yet they still never communicated anything.
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properkheldar
Famous Hero
Keeper of books
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posted May 27, 2015 07:21 AM |
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Yes, they should have voiced their concerns about the flawed beta-version as soon as they found out. They took a gamble though, probably thought it could be fixed up untill release. It was risky, and i failed. If they had succeded no one would have known.
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"Man spends his life in reasoning on the past, in complaining of the present, in fearing future."
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gourley4p
Adventuring Hero
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posted May 27, 2015 01:05 PM |
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They were in a damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't scenario. Release a crappy beta with memory leaks and everyone shreds your game. Delay the beta and people lose confidence in the development process.
The issue of the new version is an interesting point. Either they truly tried a quick fix and were testing it, or they lied to stall for time. It matters which is true, but they delayed communication on the hope of a fix. Now they can'take go back.
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted May 27, 2015 01:25 PM |
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Why would you complain about a crappy beta?
seriously, people. The beta is supposed to be crappy. if you're not ok with that you should wait until the game is released. If i see anyone complain about the beta being bad, i will only laugh.
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted May 27, 2015 02:04 PM |
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gourley4p said: They were in a damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't scenario. Release a crappy beta with memory leaks and everyone shreds your game. Delay the beta and people lose confidence in the development process.
They could have softened it though, by simply stating up front that they were experiencing problems that might interfere with the actual release of the beta, but that they were still aiming for it.
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LizardWarrior
Honorable
Legendary Hero
the reckoning is at hand
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posted May 27, 2015 02:14 PM |
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gourley4p said: They were in a damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't scenario. Release a crappy beta with memory leaks and everyone shreds your game. Delay the beta and people lose confidence in the development process.
We are talking about ubi here, their reputation hasn't appeared out of the blue, they earned it, if it was another company that would be acceptable, but for ubi things get to pile up extremely fast. It's not entirely ubi's fault however, some people expect beta to be getting a functional game in advance, not bug-finding, and they also reward's ubi bad behavior by continuing to buy their products, so they will always go for compromises and not actually putting enough effort to pull out a decent game.
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gourley4p
Adventuring Hero
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posted May 27, 2015 02:26 PM |
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Maurice said:
They could have softened it though, by simply stating up front that they were experiencing problems that might interfere with the actual release of the beta, but that they were still aiming for it.
I don't disagree, Maurice.
In a best-case scenario, I imagine testers reported on Friday that the memory leak rendered the game unplayable after X minutes. As it was the weekend, the development team was not around (or intermittently available), and they tried and failed to rush a fix on Monday. Likewise, the community manager was not available to communicate.
In the worst-case scenario, I imagine testers reported on Friday or sooner about the memory leak. Developers were available and working on it. The community manager was aware of it but chose not to inform people on the hopes that the fix would come in time to save face with an on-time release of beta.
The truth probably lies somewhere in between those two hypotheticals. I respect those who feel Ubisoft no longer deserves their hard-earned money. I have decided that I can take a flyer on $50. If the game sucks, I am out $50. If the game is great, I will more than get my money's worth. Even in the case of Heroes VI, I certainly have gotten my money's worth from that game so far.
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PandaTar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Celestial Heavens Mascot
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posted May 27, 2015 03:38 PM |
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verriker said:
Dies_Irae said: You seem to have an infinite dose of laughs at your disposal because every post of yours is fuelled by it ...
simply envision me laughing every time Ubisoft makes a blunder and you'll see where all the fuel comes from lol
lol
Dies_Irae said: The key word for now is Patience.
Lots, and lots of it.
Even more? Jesus, people, you need some in spare for the every-day-matters as well.
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GlaDOS – Portal 2
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frostymuaddib
Promising
Supreme Hero
育碧是白痴
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posted May 27, 2015 03:59 PM |
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Offtopic:
@verriker
You are the only reason I still visit H7 part of the forum
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"lol" -- VERRIKER VON ERWINSSEN
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted May 27, 2015 06:26 PM |
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Minastir
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted May 27, 2015 06:36 PM |
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Edited by Minastir at 18:40, 27 May 2015.
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apparently their tactic is to bore us with details why they failed to deliver the beta and article about beta till the release
also beta might not be released next week
"This process takes some additional time, so to be on a somewhat realistic timing we prefer to assume "next week" for the release."
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icefield
Adventuring Hero
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posted May 27, 2015 06:37 PM |
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Stevie said: Beta - A Note From The Team
Those bug descriptions are actually an accurate description of the state that Heroes 5 had at public release. So there is hope?
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articun
Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
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posted May 27, 2015 07:23 PM |
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To me, their stance is positive. They are being sincere. They have problems and they are trying to fix them. They overreached and now they seem (or pose as) humbled.
That's not bad.
It is my hope that the sooner those bugs are fixed for the beta, the sooner those same issues can be addressed on the final product before release.
I do believe that they should spent some time on those technical issues as they called them, because, I'd rather have a playable game albeit a bit unbalanced, rather than a game that crushes, slows down or corrupts my saves.
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Zombi_Wizzard
Famous Hero
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posted May 27, 2015 09:38 PM |
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Erwan: "Ok guys this is it. We are releasing Beta on Monday ... for those who preordered only ofc."
Ubi Employee: "But sir ... we don't know if we will be able to..."
Erwan: "Hush now! ... remember lads, Rush now, Think later"
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articun
Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
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posted May 27, 2015 09:49 PM |
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You remind me of a recent episode of Silicon Valley
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mike80d
Famous Hero
Map Maker
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posted May 28, 2015 07:06 PM |
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kiryu133 said: Expectations: reached
Unfortunately this was the first post I saw in this thread, and naturally concluded that the gameplay met or exceeded your expectations. Upon further review, that is not accurate at all lol.
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The_Polyglot
Promising
Supreme Hero
channeling capybara energy
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posted May 30, 2015 09:16 PM |
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LOL, Beta key + preorder goodies(artifacts, portraits) available for 0.33 EUR from a local shop. Buying it just to have a delivery boy deliver it no charge Can't wait to see his expression:
'So, I traversed half the city for you... and all I'll have to show for it is 0.33 EUR? SERIOUSLY????'
'Yup' *trollface*
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Datapack
Famous Hero
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posted May 30, 2015 10:18 PM |
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The_Polyglot said: LOL, Beta key + preorder goodies(artifacts, portraits) available for 0.33 EUR from a local shop. Buying it just to have a delivery boy deliver it no charge Can't wait to see his expression:
'So, I traversed half the city for you... and all I'll have to show for it is 0.33 EUR? SERIOUSLY????'
'Yup' *trollface*
You sure you don't get that in your email, sounds a little stupid to send out those codes physically.
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The_Polyglot
Promising
Supreme Hero
channeling capybara energy
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posted May 30, 2015 10:21 PM |
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Yeah, shop is arse-backwards like that.
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