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OldLich
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posted June 06, 2016 09:34 PM |
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markkur said:
It's clear you know the Devil well but you need to get to know the other side that you claim to know but do not in the least.
1. If I knew the devil I wouldn't say it.
2. If God knew I knew the devil he would tell me it wasn't him
Speaking of the devil, if we consider the age of the universe at about 13.8 billion years old we can safely say that God must be at least 13.8 billion years old because he had to have existed before the universe came to be. So he must be at least 13.8 billion years old.
Knowing that, we can tell that the devil has been with us for quite a long time. God has had the devil living in his own personal basement for at least 13 billion years. Is it safe to say and conclude that God doesn't want to get rid of the devil, is it safe to say that we can say with a great deal of certainty that God is at least not sure whether or not he should get rid of the devil?
Personally, if I knew that there was a psychopath living in my basement and that he had lived there for the last 13 billion years, I would have gone down in the basement immediately to get him out of there.
God haven't done that, can we at least have an agreement that God is unsure whether he should remove the devil from his basement? I think 13 billion years is plenty of evidence to say that.
I mean, if you look at the world and observe the evil going on there, you have to admit that the devil is still active, after 13 BILLION YEARS OF ACTIVITY! (heh)
Can we not agree among one another and say that God is at least unsure whether he should get rid of the devil?
If you have problems understanding big numbers like 13.8 billion, let me show you what a tiny little fraction of it is. Here is a million years, in groups of a thousand years:
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EnergyZ
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posted June 06, 2016 10:02 PM |
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OldLich
Hired Hero
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posted June 06, 2016 11:09 PM |
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Edited by OldLich at 23:13, 06 Jun 2016.
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All the great human tragedies, mass exterminations, murders and rapes, are secret symbols to the Gods. He created these tragedies so that people would have a relaxed opinion about morale, a damper. It overshadows people's perception of evil. "Oh, look at that great tragedy back in the 1800's".. It's there to trick them to not question the lesser evils we live with in our daily lives. It's there to trick people to say "The lesser evils we have is basically nothing compared to THAT"
And so people never bother about the lesser evils, it's ingenious work of evil.
Here is a challenge for you, ask God when he is going to remove our memories about the great tragedies that we've had. He'll probably never answer or he'll say "Never", it's there to remind us about the foundational "glory" of our existence. (heh)
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Life and Freedom
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posted June 06, 2016 11:12 PM |
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OldLich
Hired Hero
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posted June 06, 2016 11:20 PM |
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Edited by OldLich at 23:26, 06 Jun 2016.
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When God created Adam and when Adam got so old that he was about to die, God was in such a big sorrow that he couldn't hold his breath.
When Adam died, God went to his funeral and God cried all day long, he had so much sorrow, chestpain and tears that he could barely stand on his feet.
After Adam died, he told Adam's son, "I want you to multiply and fill up this earth with people, I want small little Adams to replace the old Adam, because I miss him so much"
and Adam's son went on to fill the earth with small little Adam's. After a while there were about 7 billion small adams on the planet.
And now God's wish has been fulfilled, all the small little Adams have now replaced God's sorrow over the loss of his first Adam. God clearly remembers the pain over going to Adam's funeral.
With over 7 billion Adam's in the world, about 12 million of them die every single day in all countries over the world, 12 million natural deaths. And so God loves them so much that he is visiting 12 million funerals every single day, thats how much he loves them.
THATS how much he loves each Adam, he can take about 12 million dead Adam every day where he used to only deal with 1 of them.
He is crying 12 million times every single day, and those are not fake tears.
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Tsar-Ivor
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Scourge of God
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posted June 06, 2016 11:35 PM |
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OldLich
Hired Hero
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posted June 06, 2016 11:56 PM |
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I remember a verse from the bible which said that Jesus took the blame for the sin of all of humanity back then now and into the future.
If you pay a visit to your local prison and watch very carefully into the prison cells there, you'll notice something controversial about Jesus claiming to take the blame for our sins.
I guarantee you that in each and every single cell are people paying for their own sins, you won't find Jesus in any of the cells there.
Watch carefully when you're doing your daily shopping, are there any thieves in the store, stealing something, watch carefull what will happen when the police arrive, I guarantee you that the thief have to pay for that sin, the police will carry that guy away, they won't be carrying Jesus away.
People pay for their own sins.
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OldLich
Hired Hero
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posted June 07, 2016 12:01 AM |
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Back in the days of Noah, God was so angry with the world that he decided to kill off 99.99% of the living and he spared one man.
After that, he regretted doing so and somehow or another he flipped his mind around and said "I won't be killing off 99.99% of all living ever again" and then he went on saying "I will kill the remaining 0.01%, my only son"
and then he went forth to kill the remaining 0.01% of the living, which was his only son. Now he had killed 100% of humanity, there is nobody left to love.
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OldLich
Hired Hero
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posted June 07, 2016 12:11 AM |
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In genesis, we can read about the wonderful creation story where God spent 6 days creating the earth. You know that pale blue dot that we live on, he spent 6 full days working full-time on it every hour of the day, without rest. And finally on day 7 he rested.
But, on day 3 he created the stars also, as you can read in Genesis. He created 100 sextillion stars (100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000) on day 3 (one day) and 900 sextillion other planets orbiting those stars.
The math realism behind the creation story have to be one of the best I've ever come across:
* 5 days to create the earth
* 1 day to create 100 sextillion stars and 100 sextillion other planets
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Baronus
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posted June 07, 2016 12:22 AM |
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One day is like 1000 years, 1000 years is like a day...
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Celfious
Promising
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From earth
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posted June 07, 2016 10:29 AM |
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what is the involvement with the top 1% wealthiest, and the physical locations of these biblical regions ?
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markkur
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Once upon a time
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posted June 07, 2016 11:07 AM |
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Edited by markkur at 11:12, 07 Jun 2016.
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OldLich said:
I remember a verse from the bible which said that Jesus took the blame for the sin of all of humanity back then now and into the future.
If you pay a visit to your local prison and watch very carefully into the prison cells there, you'll notice something controversial about Jesus claiming to take the blame for our sins.
I guarantee you that in each and every single cell are people paying for their own sins, you won't find Jesus in any of the cells there.
Watch carefully when you're doing your daily shopping, are there any thieves in the store, stealing something, watch carefull what will happen when the police arrive, I guarantee you that the thief have to pay for that sin, the police will carry that guy away, they won't be carrying Jesus away.
People pay for their own sins.
Dude take a moment a step down from your own glorious throne and actually read everything Christ said.
Understand this; Every person in prison for any crime can become right before God even. EVEN...if MAN has locked him away. And also take note of this fact; Jesus said: "It is NOT what goes in a man that defiles him but "what comes out of him" and most people in prison are in for Drug or Drug related crimes. MAN locks up MEN. And if you actually delude yourself that a person in prison cannot link up with God then you know nothing of Paul either.
Btw If you continue here, pretty please - stop spewing and learn to politely discuss this topic or any other.
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OldLich
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posted June 07, 2016 02:39 PM |
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If God is super intelligent, he's probably changed more the last minute than the last couple of thousand years. Intelligence is sometimes defined (in psychology) as the ability to change your behavior as a result of experience. A super intelligent being therefore must have the ability to change himself to the unrecognizeable in just a moment's time.
Knowing this, you should be very afraid of everything you think you know about him. How much of what you know is true? Could it be that he have twisted everything to the unrecognizeable so that you can't tell anything true about him, in that case, what do you think about the bible?
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OldLich
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posted June 07, 2016 03:11 PM |
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"God1: We don't want the humans to know about us, but they will still try to find us and if we don't do anything about it, they will find us."
"God2: The best way to stop a human from trying to find gods is by meeting them half way, if we let them run the show fully they will succeed and find us."
"God3: So here is what we'll do, we'll create as many opposing religions as we can possibly create, we want the world to be governed by as many religions as possible, this will eventually make them realize that all religions must be fake"
"God4: Yes, it is better to meet them halfway rather than letting their wits and intelligence run the whole show"
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Baronus
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posted June 07, 2016 04:23 PM |
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Edited by Baronus at 16:24, 07 Jun 2016.
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God is not a inteligence. Iteligence is to weak for God. Inteligence is only for life there not in Haeven. Dont try undestend God using thinking. Its funy and completly nonsense.
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OldLich
Hired Hero
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posted June 07, 2016 04:26 PM |
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Edited by OldLich at 17:55, 07 Jun 2016.
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It would be wise to judge God by the results rather than by thoughts and intermediate processes.
You are offering me the recipe, I am offering you the results. Which one is more valuable?
I am a Power Lich, I come from a Lich family. We cook truth! We live and feed ourselves by COOKING TRUTH!
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Celfious
Promising
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From earth
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posted June 07, 2016 06:05 PM |
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OldLich I have never seen an explanation like your 1000years1000years1000years haha
Hey I believe Christ was a man and I have an indestructible mustard seed of faith that he is all the bible claims him to be. I could be wrong. But at the last sliver of any situation I am compelled to Christianity.
I believe on unexplainable terms that it is highly possible and rational. I also believe along the lines with the many other philosophies that all religions show pretty much the same light. Yes I realize there is contradiction because the bible states Jesus quotes he is the only way.
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Homer171
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posted June 07, 2016 06:07 PM |
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@OldLich: I suggest to you that you try to view God from Christ's perspective as He is the main source of Christianity. He claimed to be Son of God and everything He did shows us how God is really. Read new testament from the bible and make your own conclusions. He was either a fraud or that He really was the One who He said to be. After you know Jesus you start to comprehend the God the Father, the Creator and God of the Jews areas more clearly.
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OldLich
Hired Hero
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posted June 07, 2016 06:23 PM |
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Edited by OldLich at 18:39, 07 Jun 2016.
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I am not searching for truth. The regular mistake that pops up in a religious chat is that christians assume that everyone is searching for truth. But this isn't the case, I am not searching for truth. I'm done with that. I am really just telling you, with little hope to get through, and with little care (I can add), take it or leave it. But I'm not searching any longer, the search is over. That means, the secret hidden sea-chest has been found already!
When I appear to be searching, I am not searching for the big truth, but only searching for more defined details around what I already know. There are many missing parts, but none of the missing parts really change the bigger picture, they just make the full picture a big ugly to observe atm.
It is natural for christians to believe that a messed up world requires a hero to solve it, but both the hero and the messed up world originate from the same hero.
God knows that there is life after death, but still, he put tremendous sorrow upon people when they lose family members or someone near them die, some people can't handle the sorrow of losing someone. God CREATED and put sorrow on people when someone die, but why did he have to do that if there is an life after death? Some people even commit suicide because they can't handle the sorrow. So why did he create it when there is no need to have sorrow. Something to think about.
Imagine that guy, he is in a funeral, his mother just died. He is so full of sorrow and he just may commit suicide because he can't deal with that sorrow. And this is not only one guy, everyone have the same sorrow in each funeral, WHY, DID, GOD, CREATE, SORROW, WHEN, THERE, IS, A, LIFE, AFTER, DEATH, ANYWAY! SOME, PEOPLE, COMMIT, SUICIDE, BECAUSE, OF, THAT, SORROW!
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markkur
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Once upon a time
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posted June 07, 2016 06:44 PM |
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OldLich said:
If God is super intelligent, he's probably changed more the last minute than the last couple of thousand years. Intelligence is sometimes defined (in psychology) as the ability to change your behavior as a result of experience. A super intelligent being therefore must have the ability to change himself to the unrecognizeable in just a moment's time.
The number of assumptions you make is astounding. But I'll play along a bit.
I love it when I read there is some super intelligence behind the universe, or as my atheist Father always said I believe in a superior intelligence but not in God.<L>
Like my God is some dumb hayseed that doesn't know his nose from two holes in the ground.
Look, if God exists - all that can be known about him (through Christ)really is that Love is the greatest thing in Human life and very likely any life. If there is life on other planets and I think there surely there must be, than it will be an eternal truth there too, no matter the state of that existence. A life without Love is a sentence to life in an eternal prison.
Read 1st Corinthians Chapter 13. Paul states that all the Religious activity in the world is nothing...without love. Then you will see the reason why the Church failed so many times in history. They did not follow "The Way" and became lost in the world and themselves. Just like Man does in everything he gets involved with.
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