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posted February 20, 2019 08:06 AM |
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Delicious Galaad. I love falafel.
Here is a good one. Veggie raviolis with mushooms!
https://veganfoodstuff.info/ravioli-pockets-bowl-with-avo-mushrooms-and-fries/?fbclid=IwAR3ozJQaAAOOQGdorSV2Yx8hv9OPb_OMgE9tXx2L-ufzbpVec7VSMIQ2ynM
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posted February 20, 2019 08:09 AM |
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blob2 said:
Did you try pancakes + spinach with blue cheese or feta? The cheese changes the taste a lot. Usually it's served without tomatoes and spinach is in minced form, not full leafs. It's pretty popular here in PL and quite tasty.
Notice that we eat pancakes in the "rolled" form, but we don't name them crepes like most of the world does. The "american pancakes" are a different thing...
That looks amazing. I love Polish pancakes! Mmmmm. For American pancakes I like to buy a brand called birch benders. They sell a healthy pancake mix for a paleo diet and use monkfruit for sweetening:
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posted February 20, 2019 08:55 PM |
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I like mixed cream, potatoes and wok vegetables in casserole.
I like also spaghetti with mushroom sauce.
Delicacy also red and yellow bell pepper in much oil. Add on salt, maybe garlic to mixed with spaghetti. True Italian food.
Famous Ethiopian sauce: oil, onion, tomato pyree, crushed tomatoes and berbere. You can add on chicken or meat, but you can eat without chicken or meat. Then take a wheat and salt to mix little and warm water. You make dough and fry in pan with butter. If dough come not enough. You must add on water. Eat Ethiopian bread with Ethiopian sauce.
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posted February 20, 2019 11:14 PM |
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My problem with most kinds of vegetarian food (aside from lack of nutrients/human stomachs ability to digest and use all vitamins and minerals in vegetarian cuisine, as well as the general lack of B vitamins and iron), is the lack of umami; savory flavour.
I like using mushrooms, burnt onion, very ripe tomatoes and soy sauce to implement this when offering customers at my restaurants vegetarian substitutes  Also, an easy way to get a good veggie meal is risotto (or creamed barley/spelt) based meals.
Vegetarians at my restaurants love me 
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posted February 21, 2019 08:37 AM |
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Sweet n' Spicy Orange Tofu Musubi w/ Organic: Sushi Rice, Nori, Air-Fried Tofu, & Homemade Orange Sauce/Marinade!
When I visit Warsaw we all need to have some beers and do an all-night Heroes Tournament while smashing through some of these delicious desserts.
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posted February 21, 2019 08:10 PM |
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Edited by Edn at 20:13, 21 Feb 2019.
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Out of curiousity, when leading a mainly vegetarianer diet, where do you get most of your micronutrients, especially the different b vitamins, omega 3 & 9 fatty acids zinc, selen and Iron (tofu contains alot of this, but too much soy is also not good for thyroid function..) - And the abundant amount of protein you need as a male?
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posted February 21, 2019 08:56 PM |
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he doesn't. He's HC's number one alpha male of beta soyboys.
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posted February 21, 2019 10:03 PM |
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Labas, Kaip sekasi
I have to ask you know, as my diet is pretty much the exact opposite - eating animal products 3-4 times every day, including liver, cheeks, marrow and hearts...
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posted February 22, 2019 11:19 AM |
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Nutrient deficiencies are more common for people on standard diets than vegetarians or vegans.
I won't give a long lecture because there'a a thing called Google and long story short: plants contain a huge variety of nutrients across the board. Not to mention simply feeling fantastic.
Plus I'll be honest: I take a multi B vitamin supplement. This generally isn't a bad idea even if you're not on a plant-based diet. B vitamins are fuel for your mitochondria. Nutritional yeast contains B12 and also give a cheeselike flavor to a meal.
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posted February 22, 2019 09:15 PM |
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Common to all socalled vegans is that they are dishonest especially to themselves. And since they are not honest to themselves, neither can they be honest to others, because being honest to others requires first being honest to self. Anyone is to others as is to self.
Since most people cannot get past this, get fooled very easily – imitation of benevolence and goodwill is not honesty. Those dishonest are snowing into everyones face they converse with, regardless how their sayings seem.
Herbivores have very different digestive system than human body does – vegans cannot comprehend even this simple fact and truth, and what it means dietarily. Their utter failure to comprehend very many things is what makes them amusing... but amusing in sad ways.
Such thing as veganism, does not exist naturally. Even socalled herbivores are actually omnivores who have bodily and metabolically specialized to eating primarily plant stuff. They are omnivores because kangaroos eat fish, elephants eat fish, moose eat birds and mice, horses who've eaten rabbits, cows who eat birds, and many other socalled "herbivores" who eat animals. They do it naturally... Why would they naturally eat something they did not naturally need? They eat them because they need to, or that by eating them they get along better with their lives than would otherwise (but then getting along with own life best as can, is need anyway).
Ones fooling themselves about these things are among socalled humans who label themselves "vegans". Though there are many other labels also, many other wrongs... but vegans are worst of them.
Supplements... are not food. Whatever chemical-synthetic-processed whatever, is not food. Those who do not fool themselves about food and diet (and of course know sufficiently well about all this), do not eat socalled supplements. Supplements eat those whose diets are in some regards very wrong.
I eat animal meat, fat, fish, eggs, liver – some of these basically every day, all raw, and now about 6 years like this. There have been few days when have skipped and some days when less. I of course eat plant stuff every day too. Unpolluted, unruined, nutritionally rich. Easy to say, not so easy to do, because this is not about following some dogma.
Animal foods contain some nutrients body needs, that cannot be obtained from any other current sources, particularly some micros but also some macros. But also contain nonphysical nutritional components, because when food is swallowed but contained nutrients not yet broken down and absorbed, yet already food has distinct effects.
From personal experience with eating less animal products and some days none, over years. For already 5 days alone, during this short period of less or none, mental/spiritual ability get lowered quite severely. Most people would not notice any difference, because they don't go mentally/spiritually anywhere deep nor subtle enough. But sufficiently deep and subtle, so to notice how it effects – while eating meat there occurs no issues; then eating none for already 5 days but still continuing working as ordinary, and it is impossible to think and feel about those deeper/subtler stuff. Thinking and feeling processes begin, and then simply drag out and end; try as many times as want, simply impossible.
There is brain/ego, which is about following commands and rules-dogma stuffed into brain's memory. Following whatever stuffed into memory, is not thinking. Working based on rules or examples, is not thinking. Working with whatever information, but if this working is based only on brain activity, then it is not thinking. Brain alone allows only cold strict infoprocesses that in essence are same as those of computers. Brain/ego alone allows only following of rules and dogma.
Then there is center of body which may be called feeling-center, which is necessary to connect self to anything. Connecting which allows internally grabbing hold of or "touching" nonphysical stuff that are not yet made part of self.
Brain/ego cuts and focuses, feeling-center connects and flows. Brain and feeling-center coworking may be called soul. And mind when soul has become aware of itself, or grabbed hold of itself. And onward to more advanced states.
Not eating meat, liver, fish, or other animal foods, already after about 5 days disables feeling center so severely that soul state becomes dormant thus also mind's processes cannot function anymore. So brain/ego is left to dominate.
Ego wants to be best of best, top of world, always and ever, but without justification and without genuine honest need to be so, and without ego itself being aware of all this. So creates seemingness of benevolence and goodwill, but also manipulates-deceives-lies so to make self seem to others as someone "high up" – so to fool own ego to believe self as being "high up". Also to to fool others to regard egotistical one as someone benevolent and good, so that egotistical one could see from others' expressions and sayings as if actually were someone "high up". Because feeling-center cannot grab hold of and actually make self better, because it isn't functioning anymore, and so instead of making self better begins making others worse, and so relationally as if elevates self. They are very messed up people, and not eating animal products is one primary way to become messed up like this (cannabis and LSD are some other primary ones; different ways of achieving same general immensely bad condition). These people do not have themselves (well-functioning feeling-center enables one to have self). Speaking to them is as if speaking to vegan dogma, or LSD or cannabis/marijuana in those cases.
Vegans never even attempt to try on themselves whether their own claims hold up to reality and trueness (because need to be able to connect, to do what they can't because they disabled this elementary part in themselves). But if they tested their own claims honestly, if they actually tried out over several years (because it takes time to see by aid of personal experience what actual truth and reality is, instead of simply blindly following some dogmas), then they would never again want anything to do with this cult called "veganism".
Trying out truth about veganism cannot be done by not eating meat for long periods, but by eating meat and then up to maybe 10 days of no meat, because after that would occur far too bad deficiencies. This repeatedly at least over several years. And all must be raw, unpolluted, nutritionally rich.
Veganism and being vegan – cultistic fanatical long-term self-destruction by way of severely starving self regarding specific essential nutritional value obtainable only from specific type of foods.
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posted February 23, 2019 12:09 AM |
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Haven't read a post that nailed it like this in a long time. Give this man a medal 
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posted February 23, 2019 01:23 AM |
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Blizzardboy said:
Nutrient deficiencies are more common for people on standard diets than vegetarians or vegans.
I won't give a long lecture because there'a a thing called Google and long story short: plants contain a huge variety of nutrients across the board. Not to mention simply feeling fantastic.
Plus I'll be honest: I take a multi B vitamin supplement. This generally isn't a bad idea even if you're not on a plant-based diet. B vitamins are fuel for your mitochondria. Nutritional yeast contains B12 and also give a cheeselike flavor to a meal.
I am aware of the nutritional value of different vegetables, but more veggies also equals more fiber - and too much fiber preoccupies the stomach so that is cannot absorb all the nutrients, that is why too much vegetables again lead to deficiencies. Of course most standard diets don't work, most people in general eat snowty  I don't know a single person at my job who has a proper diet, and then they complains to me about several problems that can be completely eradicated with dietary changes.
Nummi nailed it, QP worthy post if I ever saw one..
On a side note, today I made a mash of Jerusalem artichoke, garlic, onion, horseradish and loads of butter ... good powerful breakfast  (Alright, I had serrano on the side, but the mash was the star!)
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posted February 23, 2019 09:16 AM |
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Given the moderator here I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up with a QP (even though nobody gives QPs anymore) but Nummi's post is incoherent.
I also wasn't aware this was a debate thread for people who are insecure about their diet to go on a rant about how allegedly horrible veganism is, but sure, why not. Come on in.
Something about not eating animal products causing the emotional centers of the brain to shut down and the person effectively becoming a sociopath. The post is conspiracy theory'ish and eccentric.
1) Plant-based eaters have longer lives.
2) Plant-based eaters have healthier lives... by a considerable margin
3) No, meat is not poison. I am aware of this.
4) Almost every nutrient the body uses can be found in plants
5) I'm not literally an herbivore as a type of species. Why do I even need to say this?
6) Unlike the other person, boatloads of real life statistic confirm everything I have said.
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posted February 23, 2019 10:32 AM |
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The issue with veganism producing a debate has to do with the usual preachy nature of certain vegans who use their diet as a club to bludgeon the average Joe for being a "savage assassin that butchers innocent living beings".
It's a bit of a reflex nowadays, I myself am not immune to it, I remember when my crush came out as a vegan and told me she did it because "she cared about the animals", she probably wasn't implying I was a malevolent being, but I did give her a lecture.
If vegans are careful with their diet (and that means going the integrator way unfortunately for them) they can live perfectly healthy lives, that's not a point of debate (though the cited fibers do give some unpleasant side effects), however, the preachy guys will usually give some bollocks explanations that have little to no scientific grounding or feel loke absolute disinformation, and that irks people.
Get into my shoes, my crush told me she believed in the human mouth not being made for eating meat... Despite according to evolution (this seems like an unholy alliance) we were hunter gatherers that relied principally on meat. I cared a lot about her and I couldn't bear the thought that she would go down this way.
I may have been a bit too harsh on her though, like I always was... and that's because I was over exposed on militant vegans.
Also, horse meat rules, I berate meat eaters that tell me it's immoral to eat it, so you can imagine what happens with vegans.
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posted February 23, 2019 10:33 AM |
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Edited by Galaad at 15:18, 23 Feb 2019.
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Blizzardboy said:
nobody gives QPs anymore
I do, but I can't give you any if you don't post in the subforums I moderate.
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posted February 23, 2019 11:29 AM |
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Edited by blob2 at 11:32, 23 Feb 2019.
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I don't care which diet is healthier cus in my case it's simply a matter of not being able to live without the taste of meat. When it comes to "killing other beings" I think what's important is how "humanely" they are killed if anything. We can't root out the idea of killing for food from humanity (unless we will have synthetic food in the future), but we should at least do this in such a way that the "lesser beings" don't suffer.
Btw I think Japanesse are good example of something "in-between": they eat both a lot of vegatbles and meat (fish) and live for 100+ year. Ofc how they "kill off" their food is a different matter :/
When something vegan is good, I'll eat it with pleasure. I think that's the point of this thread btw. But there must be something in the way those "preachy" vegans behave: like they wanted to actually justify their own choices to themselves more then anything. But they shouldn't "spoil" the choices of others in the process.
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posted February 23, 2019 01:50 PM |
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nummi said:
(cannabis and LSD are some other primary ones; different ways of achieving same general immensely bad condition). These people do not have themselves (well-functioning feeling-center enables one to have self). Speaking to them is as if speaking to vegan dogma, or LSD or cannabis/marijuana in those cases.
i've heard too many people tell me how marijuana has been helping them with whatever ailments they've had(one in particular had been using a lot of different pills prescribed by doctors, and none of them worked; once they started using marijuana, all their symptoms disappeared). marijuana has helped some of my family cope with different issues and physical ailments; there's a reason why it has been prescribed to people with cancer, as well. if you set your bias aside and did some digging, you'd know that.
as for the lsd, i'll have to tell you from my own experience, that that's a load of horsesnow. i've taken lsd multiple times, and i suffer no ill effects from it. if anything, it's helped me to understand things more clearly(visions while on the drug notwithstanding).
what's funny to me, is that your whole post reads as bias, while you are essentially claiming the same thing about those you disagree with. for the record though; i agree with everything else you wrote(diet-wise). humans weren't designed to eat just plants; people self-righteously thinking they can go against their own evolutionary design, is ridiculous. you might as well think you're a different animal altogether. you know what helps with that pesky ego? a good dose of lsd. 
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posted February 23, 2019 02:19 PM |
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fred79 said:
as for the lsd, i'll have to tell you from my own experience, that that's a load of horsesnow. i've taken lsd multiple times, and i suffer no ill effects from it. if anything, it's helped me to understand things more clearly(visions while on the drug notwithstanding).
Careful though, it's like the old grandpa who used to smoke a pack of cigarettes everyday and died at 100 years old, each organism has its own characteristics, and add to that that there are always fortuitous extra factors (e.g. chemical concentrations, moment of usage, interfering substances etc.), hence why grandpa died at 100 years old while smoking worse than a Turk and poor Joe died of lung cancer at 37 because he smoked a lot.
Also why alcohol has less of a stigma when compared to other substances, alcohol tolerance is far more widespread and its adverse effects tend to show up after heavy abuse... Unless you're predisposed to liver diseases and you get a fat buildup in your liver after drinking lightly for some months.
Any substance that deals with the nervous system has a factor of risk linked to it, either due to physical effects or simple effects on the brain, the problem is that usually people only consider the toxicity of the substances (which effectively are not that toxic at the usual concentrations), however the altered state of mind is a very personal experience and so the risks involved are more on the psychiatric side, add to that the risk of assuefation and addiction (I freely admit that marijuana addiction is unlike cocaine addiction, don't bother me with that, however it is addictive, just like any pleasurable activity) and in some subjects this can lead to severe damages.
The problem is that people have a one sided view on this, drugs, and hard drugs for that matter, can have beneficial effects on humans, the scourge of China, opium, at controlled doses is perfect to treat cases of bad retentiveness (yeah, I know, icky stuff), morphine remains one of the best anaesthetics, and indeed marijuana itself is a great analgesic, the issue is when their use goes out of control.
So, be careful, you may not be predisposed to the psychic damage that LSD may entail, but that doesn't mean there isn't a risk involved, some guys get the short end of the stick, others do not, that's not a reason to justify its use.
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posted February 23, 2019 03:11 PM |
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I thought “to smoke like a Turk” was a French expression, Italians use it, too, huh. Well, we do smoke a lot to be fair.
So, fred, you disagree on the LSD part because you did LSD, yet fully agree on the vegan part because you dont do that? Even though acid fried out a lot of people’s brains and there are actual scientific studies that conclude not eating meat is perfectly fine? Omnivore species dont have to eat meat, they can eat both meat and plants. The guy is simply making up stuff based on how “he feels” after not eating meat for five days. It’s completely subjective. Back in my early twenties, there were lots of times I didnt eat meat for five days straight because I was saving up and it was expensive, I kept boiling pasta with tomata sauce for weeks, nothing of that sort happens, it’s his own fixation. There are actual statistics that prove vegan diet is not unhealthy. Personally, I can not even imagine to give up yogurt, even if I could gave up meat, though.
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posted February 23, 2019 03:49 PM |
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A five days trial is irrelevant. Is like tobacco or sugar, you need at least several months of constant privation to have your brain adapt and stop asking for. In such challenges, if you go too fast, is impossible to differentiate the psychological and the organic needs.
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