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Wesley
Disgraceful
Famous Hero
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posted May 09, 2002 05:50 PM |
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Sucks
HOMM3 was better.
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arachnid
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted May 09, 2002 05:54 PM |
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sucks
Terrible AI,extremely slow gameplay, buggy as hell and a month has past (at least) and still i cant get a patch to fix the problems.
Those lazy gits should of got there act together weeks ago!!! Cant believe ive paid £35 on a half finished game !
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morcoz
Adventuring Hero
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posted May 09, 2002 08:48 PM |
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I paid 45 dollars (american). And i dont like to play it.
I like the game but it dont run properly. And that takes the fun away...
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Dismay
Known Hero
Dark Knight
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posted May 09, 2002 08:50 PM |
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I paid 45 dollars (american). And i dont like to play it.
I like the game but it dont run properly. And that takes the fun away...
what the problem that it dont run properly?
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morcoz
Adventuring Hero
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posted May 09, 2002 08:57 PM |
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Its slow and the grafics are jumping. Excuse my english, its my second language. 
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BadAngel
Tavern Dweller
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posted May 11, 2002 08:03 PM |
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sux or rocks...
hey mocara, this is vet opinion:
i do love this game, same as 2 and 3.
its simply different.
best thing as for me it removed all those luck that was makin me nervous. (good hero, good topia, etc)
in h3 when both opponents reached high level
of gamin skills there was only luck left...
everythin was nearly automated, ie 2nd day took the mine,
3rd took the 2nd town, holy molly i took it on 4th???
damn i lost... 
All week creatures growin: EXCELLENT idea.
No more stupid rules as NO 1st rush! no 1st day rush!!!
Damn, what a dishonorable player, he rushed me!!!
hehe i wonder how hit n run will look like
I love h3 but im pretty tired after all those yrs.
Time for some fresh air
After a few yrs from now on u will surely gonna miss some h4 strategies as well when u will b about to move on to 5 hehe
about long games... never met player which can play 15 or more minutes turns when 4min limit is set?
without chainin turns will b shorter + days needed to finish game will balance total game time and will make it comparable to homm3.
btw new one is an enemy of an old one, always ))
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andiangelsla...
Disgraceful
Famous Hero
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posted May 11, 2002 08:12 PM |
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"do love this game, same as 2 and 3.
its simply different"
the sentence you hear most about h4...for me the word different is just a try to defend all the crap and try to find it good...this is no heroes anymore, bah take it outta my eyes 
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DonGio
Promising
Famous Hero
of Clear Water Mountain Clan
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posted May 12, 2002 01:32 PM |
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Some of you guys bring up improvements to the game, such as the all-week growth and no more chaining, and these would probably be good improvements to HOMMIII.
But you forget that they have changed the entire game, and those improvements were 3DO's answer to minor peeves that people had with an otherwise excellent game. That's like a fart in the wind compared to the waste dump of complaints people have now!
Where's the addictiveness?
Where's the playability?
Where's the AI (I think it's completely missing)?
Where's the might?
Where's the magic?
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There are 10 types of people: Those who read binary, and those who don't.
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Motorschaaf
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
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posted May 12, 2002 01:57 PM |
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All week creatures growin: EXCELLENT idea.
No more stupid rules as NO 1st rush! no 1st day rush!!!
if u really think there wont be any layer made rules in HOMM 4 then i really feel sorry for ya 
Motorschaf
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Sir_Stiven
Honorable
Legendary Hero
banned
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posted May 12, 2002 01:59 PM |
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To me chaining is a vital part of strategy, any guy can run around with one hero and clear a map in 2 months. But to do it with some smart chaining and clear it in 1-2 weeks requires skill.
Chaining also brings speed into the game, wait 6 turns for that creature army to get to this big fight sucks. With chaining youll do it in same turn.
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coaie
Known Hero
Dirty MoFo
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posted May 12, 2002 02:06 PM |
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I think the worst thing about heroes 4 is the secondary skills. I have to go past 5 levels to go from basic to grandmaster and the difference is not as noticeble as in heroes 3. Take earth magic for example. Advanced - I can choose my castle in Town Portal and ressurection works properly. Expert - cast on everybody slow and protection from earth. But in heroes 4 tactics,combat,defense are as good as artifacts or damn precious stones i get there . And the stuff is too complicated in H4 i have to get master blah to get grandmaster blah-blah and so on.
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Sir_Stiven
Honorable
Legendary Hero
banned
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posted May 12, 2002 02:14 PM |
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And i cant believe that a "strategy" game with a grid that looks like 800 overgrown pixels can even be seriously taken. But i guess we all should be happy about that grid, atleast now there is one...
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"Youre zeroes and ones, youre wrong where im right"
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Undead_Knight
Known Hero
Hero of Chaos
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posted May 12, 2002 03:47 PM |
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lol seems to me that some ppl will like even if 3do will make something like command and conquer and name it "heroes 5"
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Badangel
Tavern Dweller
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posted May 12, 2002 04:21 PM |
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1st of all h3 wasnt perfect when it appeared, so 4 did.
u ppl also made it aviable faster than it was finished.
pressure was so hard (us and some 3do's money stuff too)
so they released it too early. im also a programmer so i can understand it. sometimes i show customers programs that work in 10% or less, just to make them happy.
i know they shouldnt do that but money makes that
Apart from all, i can c 1 thin u ALL miss a lot:
chainin.... was said good player can do a lot in one turn with chainin... wrong. it wasnt player, was "mouse magician" to make all units go there and back.
game was about how quick u can use ur mouse to do chains nor strategy, it was the same after all those yrs, all over and over, nothin new just chainin chainin and then...
voila! 1,5h passed (ie hourglass2) and topia showed who was better. that pissed me off. so i dont miss h3 in such cases.
Hope 3do gonna fix all bugs, and h4 will give so much fun as h2 and h3.
btw when i started h3 i was comparin it to h2 a lot too,
on the other hand h3 is not dead u can play it if u wish, just plz understand even there r some bugs its still somethin u couldnt do by urself, theres lots of work behind it. u may like it or not. theres free will.
ive chosen to stay with homm.
u can say no.
thats not defendin by usin a word "different".
maybe i just think different way.
i said i love it
HOWGH
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Motorschaaf
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
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posted May 12, 2002 04:35 PM |
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the best mouse wont help ya with chaining if u suck
Motorschaaf
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Badangel
Tavern Dweller
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posted May 12, 2002 04:45 PM |
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nope i meant when two player r good not suckers.
they both know whats bout, they do chainin, it takes a looooooooot of time (i used to read books durin opponents turns), theres somethin missed...
maybe its a strategy? dont think so
for repeitive works we use puters ;P
it wasnt even real, slow units movin all the world there and back.. now its made perfectly. all kinds of monsters have its own movement rate.
now fog of war may be of suprise, instead of lucky topias.
much more realistic than before.
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Motorschaaf
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
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posted May 12, 2002 04:49 PM |
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if u play a soccer game with a gamepade vs. an even skilled player and u lose because he is much more skilled in handling the pad do u complain too???
handling the mouse is part of the skill .
if u are not able to use the mouse good u should practice .
Motorschaaf
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Badangel
Tavern Dweller
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posted May 12, 2002 04:54 PM |
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if i was speedo freak i could play soccer, but damn
im playin rpg! tell Kasparov somethin like that
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Motorschaaf
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
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posted May 12, 2002 05:08 PM |
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tell Kasparov somethin like that
if kasparov is not able to make 40 moves in 2 hours . or calculate a complicated endgame in seconds he would not be on top...
think about it Mr. slowhand
Fastschaaf
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Lews_Therin
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted May 12, 2002 05:24 PM |
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What does this have to do with Kasparov??
Anyway, it“s funny that you make Heroes3 responsible for that lousy snow map. I“ve been taking part in ToH since season 1, and never even considered to play it.
Besides, the amount of time you spent for chaining now is lost for buying and sending the new days“ production every turn, and for splitting level 1s and making them commit suicide to get gold/resources or see further. (That scouts are worth about 20gp doesn“t really serve to increase the strategic value of the game, btw.)
BUT the difference is, the time that was spent for chaining accelerated the progress you made on the map, and by that the duration of the game.
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