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fred79
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posted November 06, 2020 05:32 AM
Edited by fred79 at 06:05, 06 Nov 2020.

The_Gootch said:
Don't mind the crybabies throwing their tantrums because cheetoh Hitler lost the election.  They're just following the example set by president Kompromot.  What a <snow>ing turd he's been.  His old economic advisor Gary Cohn said it best about him, describing him as, "less a person than a collection of terrible traits."

So.  He's lost.  That's the only silver lining to this election.  Here's the bad news.  Even more people voted for this piece of snow in 2020 than they did 4 years ago.  Those numbers should prove beyond a reasonable doubt the U.S. is manifestly unfit to be a leader in the modern world.  We need to retreat from the world stage for awhile and maybe murder each other.      


your opinion has been completely disregarded, for the following reasons:

1. the liberal leftists were the ONLY crybabies for the past 4 YEARS. nobody's "crying" because these slime were caught in ELECTION FRAUD; they're PISSED because they're trying to GET AWAY WITH IT, and most likely WILL.

2. the liberal leftists(with the literal FASCIST "anti-fascist" movement), along with blm, were throwing "tantrums" all summer, or have you not heard? been living under a rock denying reality with the rest of the left? THEY snowing KILLED 50+ PEOPLE that had NOTHING to do with what they were rioting about; committed arson and vandalized buildings, and destroyed and vandalized inanimate statues that were a part of history and that, again, had NOTHING to do with WHY they were rioting(because the liberal media told them it was racist for cops to do their jobs around violent black criminals). not to mention, the LOOTING, attacks on vehicles and people simply trying to go about their day, the brutal beating and assault of whoever they wanted to(including the ELDERLY, ffs)...


really, you people have SOME nerve.

the reason MORE people voted for him than 2016, and the reason why he WOULD win if this election WASN'T FRAUDULENT, is because the ENTIRE LIBERAL MEDIA WEAPONIZED THE LEFT TO ATTACK ANY DISSENTING OPINIONS TO THE GLOBALIST NARRATIVE.

screw your snowing HEAD on right, guy.

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posted November 06, 2020 05:58 AM
Edited by The_Gootch at 05:59, 06 Nov 2020.

You must have me confused with one of your handlers who was told to be nice to you.  

All I've done is watch you embarrass me and the rest of your fellow americans with your dim-witted, half-baked, ill-formed ideas, you crayon eating ASVAB waiver.  I've watched countless euros run circles around you while you coughed, muttered, and sputtered in impotent rage.  I was never a fan of most of them, but at least I was able to bloody their noses when we got into it. You're just unhinged--a child with no emotional discipline trying to keep up with adults  who are much smarter, better educated, and far more literate than you could ever hope to be. If medals were ever handed out for debating, yours would say, "If he was any dumber, we'd water him."  

Really.  It's a travesty.  It's like you're not even a real person with real thoughts or feelings.  You're more like just some deepfake codenamed '4Chanbro'.  



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posted November 06, 2020 06:07 AM

lol, ok there little buddy. people who refute reality don't get to call me "unhinged". that's a privilege only people more sane than myself would get to use.

i used to think you were decent at observing. must have been back when i was a leftist.
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posted November 06, 2020 07:52 AM

fred79 said:
have you done any research at all, into the election fraud? there's plenty of evidence of it; some is posted here in this thread.
What, you mean the 600 (total) ballots in Pennsylvania that the president's legal team determined were filed ~1 hour too late, so they were pulled out of the count? Those ones hadn't been counted. And there are additional oversight people around to double-check time stamps to make sure no ballots that were submitted late or filled in improperly will be counted... not that they were likely to be in the first place, given the counting committee is purposefully made up of people from both major political parties, and none of them work alone, thus making such a blatant move to cheat the election virtually impossible.

What about the clerical errors that were corrected immediately upon being caught, and were mostly caught within a minute of going up? Those would have been shady, if they weren't immediately rectified, I'll admit. Good thing all of those were corrected by that bipartisan election committee, eh? Kinda weird how no one here is trying to talk about how the numbers for Trump fluctuated just as much when he was still getting votes... you know. From the direct voting sources that he told his support base to use exclusively, because he tried to poison the well on mail-in voting and convinced his base that Satan himself would change those ballots to Biden, and thus almost completely robbed himself of any and all mail-in ballots that he might have received.

Nothing shady going on there. Just simple cause and effect, like when Trump's own actions caused him to contract COVID. Because he acted like a dipsnow, and thus got slapped like a dipsnow. In this case, it gave him a strong showing on election day, and then... that showing piddled and puttered and disappeared once mail-ins began being counted. So it backfired on him. It was a bold move, Cotton, but it doesn't seem to have paid off.  

And... that legitimately covers everything except the calls to blatantly break voting laws on the President's behalf by disenfranchising millions of voters and ending counting now. Oh, and I guess that does nothing to the batsnow, Infowars conspiracy theory garbage, but that one requires medication and therapy to counteract, and I may work for a drug store, but I am not a psychiatrist. So I'm not even going to address those... "points."
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Zenofex
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posted November 06, 2020 07:54 AM

The_Gootch said:
Here's the bad news.  Even more people voted for this piece of snow in 2020 than they did 4 years ago.

Which kind of proves how much the Dems f****ed up with their candidate and their messages among other things. The best thing that can be said about Biden is that he's not Trump. But considering that he's expected to either be declared unfit for the post and pass it to Harris or just stand on the chair for TV shots and leave the government to people with better clinical credibility, it's all nice and cool for those who will pull the strings from the backstage anyway. The orangegutan at least created the genuine impression to be too self-centered for a willing figurehead (not that he isn't an actual figurehead).

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posted November 06, 2020 08:19 AM

Zenofex said:
Which kind of proves how much the Dems f****ed up with their candidate and their messages among other things. The best thing that can be said about Biden is that he's not Trump. But considering that he's expected to either be declared unfit for the post and pass it to Harris or just stand on the chair for TV shots and leave the government to people with better clinical credibility, it's all nice and cool for those who will pull the strings from the backstage anyway. The orangegutan at least created the genuine impression to be too self-centered for a willing figurehead (not that he isn't an actual figurehead).

The second best thing one can say about Biden is that he can be bullied into actually doing good things for the American public, because he gives a damn about public perception of him and the image he likes to project of himself. He won't ever support things like socialism or fully defunding police (and has said so multiple times, despite the Trump campaign and supporter's insitance that he will) because he's built his image up to be a staunch liberal (which is a moderate RIGHT WING CAPITALIST political position) and a partner of law and order policies, but he's willing to do things like re-make anti-monopoly laws and charters, close off-shore tax loopholes, and like... de-militarize police. Because he projects himself as a compassionate liberal that doesn't hold to lazie-fare capitalism.

For all the good that it will do.

Because he's definitely just being put there as a "not Trump" candidate, and will be used as a muppet like Bush was, or abdicate from office once things calm down to let Kamila take over. Who can similarly be bullied by the voter base, but is also just not a great or exciting candidate for president. Which sucks. Because if either of them had been able to excite the voter base, like Bernard Sanders could energize his base, or like Jo Jorgensen could energize hers, then this might not have been such a trash election cycle. Instead... we had a puppet against a wanna-be dictator strongman, and the entire message was "Orange man bad."

Which... yeah. He is bad. He really is orange, and he really is bad. Trump-look-alikes have been in movies as the villains since the 80's for a reason (Biff from Back to the Future is explicate one of these spoofs, but pretty much every scummy business man in movies has been an egomaniac that slaps their name on a tower, deals in housing grifts, and has a weird haircut... which is pretty much a 100% accurate Trump portrayal. And almost exclusively a Trump thing to do, when you add in the whole "Name on buildings" thing.) But it's just... not a good platform to sway people from his voter base if you're not offering them anything in return.

Which is why there was so little voter switching from the Republican base; there was no reason given to them not to just stick to party lines other than "your dude is actual fascist scum," to which they could respond, "Yeah but you always say that, what are you offering in return?" Even if it was actually true this time, not being able to offer non-libertarian (who had Jo) voters questioning if they should support the fascist presidential candidate an alternative that mattered hurt the Democrats. It hurt them a lot. And made this race way closer than it had any right to be.
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fred79
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posted November 06, 2020 08:46 AM

calling genuine election fraud a "conspiracy theory", give me a break. just ONCE. just because the media's doing everything it can to silence this snow(as it does it's best to silence ALL anti-globalist opinion) and pretend like it didn't happen(hmmmm, reminds me of something. or someone. or a group. hmmmm....), and that you can't find the information they're trying desperately to bury even as more is dug up, while calling people pointing all this out "liars"...

i understand the skepticism. you were trained to hate orange man. nothing done to orange man could possibly be bad, especially something as necessary to "FIX" the U.S. as simple election fraud; so that you can have a happy place with fields of bunnies and flowers where everyone is equal except whites, again. look at me, getting off on a tangent. should stop that, you'll point and go "crazy!" some more.

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posted November 06, 2020 08:51 AM
Edited by artu at 09:07, 06 Nov 2020.

@Gnomes

Well, Biden is as unexcited as a candidate can be, that’s for sure. He was going against the most controversial, most spoken out against president in maybe all US history and the results still coming out this close tells a lot about him. Trump got his support by using the strong anti-establishment vibe in the public and Biden looks as establishment as one can be.

If you skip out the fraud claims, which as of now have no concrete basis whatsoever, Trump coming this close to getting elected again despite everything tells a lot about how divided the country is.
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posted November 06, 2020 08:59 AM

I don't think that's a correct analysis. I think, Trump isn't getting that many votes because Biden is such a lame candidate. I think, Trump has a genuine entourage of followers, in the same way that Hitler had. There ARE many people who actually like and vote for him BECAUSE he's fascist scum.

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posted November 06, 2020 09:00 AM

artu said:
Trump coming this close to getting elected again despite everything tells a lot about how divided the country is.


he sure is coming close, isn't he? he'd've already won, if it wasn't for the fraud that you people are completely out of the loop on(and willfully so, as there is some proof right here in this thread that you all completely ignore. just like everything else people try to point out to you that isn't part of you guys' narrative feedbag).

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posted November 06, 2020 09:04 AM

JollyJoker said:
I think, Trump has a genuine entourage of followers, in the same way that Hitler had. There ARE many people who actually like and vote for him BECAUSE he's fascist scum.


you are so wrong, so often, it makes my head spin.

question: was it Trump screaming at people during the riots? trying to force people to support lunatics who were killing people and destroying snow?

snow no, it wasn't.

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posted November 06, 2020 09:05 AM

JollyJoker said:
I don't think that's a correct analysis. I think, Trump isn't getting that many votes because Biden is such a lame candidate. I think, Trump has a genuine entourage of followers, in the same way that Hitler had. There ARE many people who actually like and vote for him BECAUSE he's fascist scum.

You seem to forget the history of your own country and why many people liked and voted for fascist scums in the first place.

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artu
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posted November 06, 2020 09:06 AM

JollyJoker said:
I don't think that's a correct analysis. I think, Trump isn't getting that many votes because Biden is such a lame candidate. I think, Trump has a genuine entourage of followers, in the same way that Hitler had. There ARE many people who actually like and vote for him BECAUSE he's fascist scum.

Yes, but they’re not almost half the country. Also, I think Galaad’s point, that he may be awful in terms of character but he didnt start any wars abroad, gets him support from a different voter base, too.

@fred

Once again, to be able to claim proof, you must have the comprehension of what actually constitutes proof. You clearly don’t.
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posted November 06, 2020 09:09 AM

Yes, Donnie Stacks is so fascist, his oponents are still walking around and had not received a bullet to the back of the head with no trial.
There was no equivalent to the Nacht der langen Messer either, now was it?

so fascist. Worse than Addie Methhead the failed painter for sure.
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posted November 06, 2020 09:27 AM

I would be surprised about a Biden win if I didn't witness the absolute, total, global campaign against Trump. At this point I'm more surprised that there are still contested areas, since the election apparently is between satan and not satan.

In 4 years the only positive coverage I recall was when he did a few bomb strikes on Syria. It baffles me as to how that is the only thing he got praised for, and not brokering peace deals.

See, I have almost no stakes but conjectures about me supporting either, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter to me, but I fear the reflection on my country and the rest of the world. My country is poised to have a right wing government in the future, will they be able to govern? Will there be internal dissent due to a primed public to disobedience and violence? Will there be foreign interference?

The aggression on this thread and others how do anyone not realize it's fuel to the fire, you think Fred is nuts? You think you're all doing a good thing attacking him and provoking him? Everytime I see his first post in a thread ot becomes more and more conspiratorial, that's an escalation that is fuelled by this constant climate of attack, attack, attack.

When you say Trump is a fascist dictator, a caricature, the movie villain etc. You're legitimising the idea of throwing him out no matter what, sure, all of you here are just being hyperbolic, but what about those other people in the street? The youth ready to riot.
Trump is accused to use a similar rhetoric to rile up armed supporters, so is that the answer? Creating two opposed violent mobs?

I hope that after Biden wins everyone shuts up about fascists and what not, but I know that won't happen, because to me the biggest take away is...

A Biden win is a media win, the Biden campaign was a low energy endeavour, split between two opposing sides of the same party, and with a candidate on which it wasn't that easy to discard the idea he was too old and possibly riddled with dementia. It speaks volumes of the democrats, that they wouldn't candidate someone else, you wouldn't see me writing this about Tulsi Gabbard, or even Bernie "Josif" Sanders, actually, I would have been interested to see a US where Bernie won.

If the weight of the media in these elections was as much as I think, what tells me that a future government of Italy will be decided by one sided scandals and judiciary action?

Take all of this as you will, I just wanted to chip in about the aggressive nature of current discourse.
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posted November 06, 2020 09:39 AM

Kipshasz said:
Yes, Donnie Stacks is so fascist, his oponents are still walking around and had not received a bullet to the back of the head with no trial.
There was no equivalent to the Nacht der langen Messer either, now was it?

so fascist. Worse than Addie Methhead the failed painter for sure.

I wouldnt call him a facist in the literal sense, certainly no Hitler. But A) he did fire a lot of people although they werent impotent or unqualified but only followed protocol instead of following his orders blindly. B) he has a voter base that follows him because of his near far-right statements.
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posted November 06, 2020 09:41 AM
Edited by Kipshasz at 09:47, 06 Nov 2020.

Quote:
Trump is accused to use a similar rhetoric to rile up armed supporters, so is that the answer? Creating two opposed violent mobs?


Yes.

Honestly, at this point I want Donnie Stacks to win out of spite.

Just imagine the absolutely hilarious crapstorm if that happens. It would be glorious.

Also the "boogaloo" larpers talked some mad crap during their 15 minutes of fame, so why not? Put your actions where your mouth is idiot with hawaiian shirt, cheapest "tactical" vest and helmet and "home built" bargain bin AR-15 no. 5841654685.

Let's do it. US Civil War 2.0 NOW!


@Artu: Show me a political leader that doesn't want loyal staff around himself. Does everyone's favourite watermelon salesman has people in his office that oppose him for example? Last I heard they were rounded up and locked up.
Problem with fascism is, you can't properly, solidly define it. If you read La Dottrina Di Fascismo, it's fairly obvious. yes there's some traits, but those traits can be applied to something else too.

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posted November 06, 2020 09:42 AM
Edited by fred79 at 09:48, 06 Nov 2020.

@ neraus:

i don't get more conspiratorial the angrier i get, that is misleading; and implying that the input i have disseminated largely via leftists and their own media is somehow false. it's obviously not, if you're paying any sort of attention to what the left've been doing, how they've been acting, and that they've all been saying(the SAME THINGS) for the past FOUR YEARS(as if with a cue card), that anyone with a thought in their head could have picked up.

seeing so many people supposedly capable of free thought, NOT THINKING ON THEIR OWN and coming to separate conclusions than what is spoon-fed them by the globalist narrative(which is itself comprised of sub-narratives, of a sort; that all move towards the same goal), is freaky. it's like "valley of the dolls" freaky. i haven't seen such blatant drone-thought since these past 4 years, and i know why. i've said it before: the globalists, through their monopoly of mass media, have weaponized the leftist commoners; so that they attack(in every sense of the word) "wrong-think"(read, "any thought against the narrative").

and, if you take a gander at history, those in power have always done this. it's like leftists have never even HEARD of propaganda; like it's from a different planet or something, and not something continually used throughout all of recorded human history to get the poor to do the rich's bidding.
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posted November 06, 2020 09:52 AM

What are you people talking about? Being "fascist" is not the same as being a "fascist dictator". You know, Hitler has been legally elected and was no dictator AT THAT TIME - but he was fascist allright. THEN, when he had been elected he pushed through a law that GAVE HIM the legal grounds to BECOME dictator.
So, no, Donald Trump is no dictator. He and his cronies are just eroding the political system.

Isn't it strange that he gets so much flak from fellow Reps?  Like Maryland Gov Larry Hogan who saidThere is no defending of Trumps fraud comments
Has he become a leftie now?

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posted November 06, 2020 09:55 AM

JollyJoker said:
What are you people talking about? Being "fascist" is not the same as being a "fascist dictator". You know, Hitler has been legally elected and was no dictator AT THAT TIME - but he was fascist allright. THEN, when he had been elected he pushed through a law that GAVE HIM the legal grounds to BECOME dictator.
So, no, Donald Trump is no dictator. He and his cronies are just eroding the political system.

Isn't it strange that he gets so much flak from fellow Reps?  Like Maryland Gov Larry Hogan who saidThere is no defending of Trumps fraud comments
Has he become a leftie now?


so you're saying hitler is better than Trump?
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