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CountBezuhoff
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posted November 06, 2020 12:11 PM |
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FirePaladin said:
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posted November 06, 2020 12:29 PM |
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CountBezuhoff said:
Ghost said: No one is going to jail him, not with 67 million people still supporting him. That would go strongly against the 'Unity' the Democrats claim to be after.
The democrats wont go after him once he is a private citizen, no. But prosecutors most likely will. Perhaps the most likely reason Trump will end up in court after leaving office concerns his taxes. Trump’s recently revealed tax filings expose a series of ethically dubious and possibly illegal activities.
Also Deutsche Bank plans to cut ties with Trump after the election and could seize his assets if he can't pay back his debts. Given that the loans are personally guaranteed by Trump, the chickens will come home to roost.
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JollyJoker
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posted November 06, 2020 12:31 PM |
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@ the count
There is no real consensus about what fascism actually is - not even whether it even is an ideology or whether it's just a certain form of populism. When speaking about Trump, there seem to be elements missing that allow that characterisation, but are they really missing? The US ARE already the most powerful "empire" in the world and do have the most powerful war machine in the world, so they don't need to strive to become it like, say, Italy in the 1930s. The last decade has seen a general increase in the use of fascist rhetorics all around the world, and many countries have seen increasing nationalist tendencies in their actual politics or in newly arising movements.
With Trump, the rhetorics are all there: nationalist, racist, very far right and anti-left. It depends on how you define it. Is he all bark, no bite?
Obviously he has had a plan to stay president no matter what - and he has had that plan four years ago as well. When he lost the public vote, he claimed that this was a result of voter fraud and set up a commission to find the 3.000.000 false votes (which they didn't find, of course).
Sure, you might call him an "ideological descendant of Louis XIV or Tzar Peter III", which is a lot more correct than calling him "fascist" - but why would I care for those marginal differences? For all intents and purposes "fascist" fits the bill quite fine in this case.
Of course you have to consider that if his immunity is revoked in January, when he loses the election, he will face multiple trials for all kinds of stuff (and Mike Pence as well), so they fight tooth and nail for that immunity.
EDIT: Interestingly enough Trump Jr. has demanded "total war" over the election... If that isn't fascist rhetoric, nothing is.
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fred79
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posted November 06, 2020 07:47 PM |
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twitter is censoring election fraud posts, but this page here can give you some idea of the information being collected to help combat this bs.
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fred79
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posted November 06, 2020 08:00 PM |
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also,
and for anyone not in the know(which is most of you), the scandal involving biden, obama, hillary, and others illegally investigating and spying on the Trump campaign and even MAKING UP a russian collusion with Trump last election(the entire thing was phony from the ground up), was/is being investigated by officials. you're not likely to hear about THAT in the msm, either.
that said, you all are calling this election a little early. recounts will still happen; if they don't, that is even further proof of election fraud, beyond all that has been seen thus far.
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JollyJoker
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posted November 06, 2020 08:12 PM |
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And the BS never stops...
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posted November 06, 2020 08:25 PM |
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@fred
But that investigation wasn't about voter fraud. Besides, it never stopped him from entering office.
Trump campaign can do the vote recounts, but past vote recounts never yield more than a few hundred net differences. By far the closest margin is in Georgia with a 2k+ difference, and that by itself isn't nearly enough to change the election. After that is PA which is an over 10k difference so far. The next closest margin is Wisconsin with a 20k+ difference.
So yeah, the election is more or less complete. He'll do his lawsuits because that is what he does for everything in his life, but the vagueness of the random accusations says volumes. After that there is the possibility that he simply won't step down (because Trump may believe in his world that there was fraud no matter what people show him), which will create more waves of unrest, but that puts him on an island that will end with him being escorted away.
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JollyJoker
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posted November 06, 2020 08:29 PM |
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Don't forget, his cult followers may start an armed crusade being called to "total war" over the election.
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Blizzardboy
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posted November 06, 2020 08:40 PM |
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I definitely think the new POTUS will have a very high risk of assassination or attempted assassination. Combine cult of people that think the election was stolen + unstable emotional/mental health issues + access to firearms. White nationalist groups are currently threat #1 to the FBI and they will all be extremely unhappy with the election results.
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JollyJoker
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posted November 06, 2020 08:54 PM |
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His security has been tightened already.
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Gandalf196
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posted November 06, 2020 08:56 PM |
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posted November 06, 2020 09:17 PM |
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Gandalf196
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posted November 06, 2020 09:24 PM |
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posted November 06, 2020 09:25 PM |
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Frankly, as someone who works in the IT field, I can say that technical glitches are to be expected with virtually any software, even Pentagon-level, i.e. something like that could be a simple case of heavy-handed programmer. Security-wise though, some "glitches" are left purely intentionally so they can be exploited by the right parties at the right time (think NSA and the related scandals not-so-long ago) and when they are not intentional but their existence is known, they can be "weaponized". So yeah, it could be either.
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JollyJoker
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posted November 06, 2020 09:29 PM |
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fred79
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posted November 06, 2020 09:40 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
Gandalf196 said: Conspiracy, right?
Software glitch in Michigan flipped 6k Trump votes to Biden
Why don't you link to Trump tweets right away? People are just believing any crap now, just because someone tweets some kind of crap. Wait until it's something official, ok? EVERYONE can tweet crap.
click the link. watch the snowing video. i swear to god, you people are disgusting. the meme i posted before stands. you hate orange man, so you will NOT even THINK that there could be legit election fraud.
MORE EVIDENCE IS COMING OUT ALL THE TIME.
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Gandalf196
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posted November 06, 2020 09:45 PM |
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fred79
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posted November 06, 2020 09:50 PM |
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if they do a legit recount everywhere, they'll find Trump won by a landslide.
it's obscene for these leftists to think that a corrupt old white man with dementia who molests people got more of their votes than a woman and a black man, both.
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Gandalf196
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posted November 06, 2020 09:54 PM |
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fred79 said: if they do a legit recount everywhere, they'll find Trump won by a landslide.
it's obscene for these leftists to think that a corrupt old white man with dementia who molests people got more of their votes than a woman and a black man, both.
Not only this, the numbers themselves witness the statistical impossibility that is this arranged victory.
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posted November 06, 2020 09:56 PM |
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