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fred79
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posted May 13, 2021 10:26 PM |
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Kipshasz said:
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artu said:
You dont have to directly fly from an airbase there or position your military troops. Having a reliable ally is a positional advantage by itself. Katar or other Arab countries are not a “unity” either and U.S. also backs them up when they play ball. But they are usually less stable, so alliences are less organic but conjunctural.
"Having a reliable ally"
what about israel is either reliable OR having to do with any alliance other than an incredibly parasitic one on the U.S.?
can you answer the questions i posed above? are you telling me, you never wondered about any of that?
Remember USS Liberty? 
i do. that's just one of a laundry list they're responsible for.
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artu
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posted May 13, 2021 10:42 PM |
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Edited by artu at 22:43, 13 May 2021.
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What questions did I skip, fred? My answer was to all your questions.
And about the other thread, if you mean the one that you claim that there is a Youtube video of Biden allegedly abusing kids and how they prove it by body language. That’s not something I took seriously, if you do, you find it. But check these things first, are the “experts” really experts, what are their credentials, if they really are who they claim they are, interpreting body language is guess work at best, it’s not some exact science. That’s why people can lie and get away with it. Such videos are not proof of anything. The fact is, undeniable proof of child abuse would end a politician’s career no matter who they are. Even if there was some conspiracy, a politican involved in such scandal would be expendable in a second. The reason Biden is still in politics is that the accusations are internet crap and nothing else.
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fred79
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posted May 13, 2021 10:47 PM |
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so you're avoiding everything that destroys your opinion, then.
why are you arguing with me, again? what grounds do you have to consider you're correct, when you absolutely avoid the proof that you are wrong?
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artu
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posted May 13, 2021 10:50 PM |
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Link the proof.
You started a debate thread and asked for people’s opinions, what do you mean why are you arguing?
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posted May 13, 2021 10:53 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 22:55, 13 May 2021.
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fred79 said:
what about israel is either reliable OR having to do with any alliance other than an incredibly parasitic one on the U.S.?
I believe that at the very least there's a joint development of military technology between them. You can even consider Israel as a testing ground for new weapons  US military is in possesion of some Israeli made equipment like rockets or mortars.
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posted May 13, 2021 10:53 PM |
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fred79 said:
have you ever wondered why it is, that politicians in the U.S. are ALLOWED to have dual citizenship with israel, let alone, any other country? and why the number of those with dual citizenship with israel always seems to continually increase?
have you ever wondered why it is, that "our greatest ally" has never fought in any of our wars?
have you ever wondered why it is, that we give billions in military aid to such a tiny little country in the middle of nowhere?
have you ever wondered why it is, that incoming presidents have to show their allegiance to such a tiny little country in the middle of nowhere?
what exactly is strategic about it? when was the last time the U.S. used ANYTHING in israel "strategically"?
here are the questions again, in case you forgot. i didn't start this thread for these, but i want you all to think about them. not just a passing thought; but really THINK about them.
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posted May 13, 2021 10:59 PM |
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Edited by fred79 at 23:05, 13 May 2021.
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blob2 said:
I believe that at the very least there's a joint development of military technology between them. You can even consider Israel as a testing ground for new weapons
this is a possibility, but what kind of weapons testing would require billions in aid? this actually raises more questions than it answers; and puts our relationship with israel in a much darker light.
...come to think of it, i remember an idea being kicked around the internet, that israel has it's own nuclear program now(on the dl). i wonder if there is truth to that? it could certainly explain the billions in "military aid"...
i wonder if they've been under surveillance for anything of the sort?
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artu
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posted May 13, 2021 11:19 PM |
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But my answer WAS to those questions. It’s a regional ally in a part of the world where anti-American sentiments are extremely strong, where US has resource interest. Your answer is what? They got a mole in every bank?
And it’s not true that “ they never fought in any of your wars” because as I already answered, that doesnt necessarily need to be in the form of you flying a military plane from there. Israel is not a member of NATO. (We are for instance and we have the bases you speak of.) But if you think of it like a chessboard, Israel is like a bishop on a square, that hinders Iran’s and other’s moves.
Here, Link, even basic information such as this should answer your questions.
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posted May 13, 2021 11:33 PM |
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artu said:
But my answer WAS to those questions. It’s a regional ally in a part of the world where anti-American sentiments are extremely strong, where US has resource interest. Your answer is what? They got a mole in every bank?
And it’s not true that “ they never fought in any of your wars” because as I already answered, that doesnt necessarily need to be in the form of you flying a military plane from there. Israel is not a member of NATO. (We are for instance and we have the bases you speak of.) But if you think of it like a chessboard, Israel is like a bishop on a square, that hinders Iran’s and other’s moves.
Here, Link, even basic information such as this should answer your questions.
"anti-american sentiments are extremely strong"
ever wonder why?
"israel is not a member of nato"
so WHY does every incoming president have to bend the knee to them, then? why don't incoming presidents have to show they support anyone else by bending the knee? you're just giving me more firepower to shoot down your opinion. do you not SEE that?
should i even check out the link? should i do what you will not?
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posted May 13, 2021 11:39 PM |
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Yes, you should. Because unlike yours, it exists.
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fred79
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posted May 13, 2021 11:48 PM |
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posted May 14, 2021 12:25 AM |
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artu said:
Yes, you should. Because unlike yours, it exists.
youtube took the original video down. big surprise. the only thing i found was a bootlegged copy of it, and it's a copy from a dumbass that cut off some of the scrolling descriptions.
thankfully, there's audio in the video to make up for that fact. click.
you check this video out, as i check out your link.
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posted May 14, 2021 12:40 AM |
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i'm currently reading from your link, which led me to the israeli declaration of independence, which led me to the world zionist organization, which led me to zionism, which led me to haskalah.
i'll be back with my findings. it may take longer than a day or two, being that i'll be busy tomorrow and the foreseeable future.
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posted May 14, 2021 12:45 AM |
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Edited by artu at 00:46, 14 May 2021.
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1- The speaker states that such violation of personal space doesnt necessarily mean ones who are doing it are sexual predators.
2- It’s edited in a way to direct your perception, one second, two second cuts taken out of context and jammed in together repeatedly.
3- Nowhere does the speaker refer to Biden directly, it is, once again, the editor’s choice to take the speech and paste it to already edited footage.
4- Such editing can be applied to thousands of politicians, who are actually advised to present human contact, not look too robot-like on camera, connect to people etc. If you want, you can make a similar video of Clinton, Trump or anyone else for that matter.
Sorry, but this isnt proof or even grounds for reasonable doubt to claim Biden is a pedophile.
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posted May 14, 2021 01:03 AM |
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This should be a poll
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fred79
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posted May 14, 2021 01:10 AM |
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Edited by fred79 at 01:11, 14 May 2021.
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@ artu:
they took footage that was over an hour long(or close to), and cut to the parts that were directly displaying the behavior that clearly depicts a sexual predator in action, on camera. the dude even explained the mannerisms of sexual predators as the video played out. understand, this wasn't needed for anyone capable of rubbing two brain cells together and delineating what was transpiring in plain sight. the explanation was only needed for people like you, who couldn't see the forest for the trees even if they were a lumberjack.
that not even THAT gets through your density, is beyond me. the video was made to literally spell out what was happening, for stupid people.
and you failed to grasp it even THEN.
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posted May 14, 2021 01:26 AM |
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Just image search Trump (or whatever politican you choose to pick) + “kissing children” and then see for yourself “brain cells.”
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posted May 14, 2021 01:33 AM |
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Gandalf196 said:
This should be a poll
Okay but that's not how the legal system works or else there would be a never-ending pile of corpses of politicians and famous figures anytime some laypeople on the internet analyzed a random video and spontaneously decided that the person is a pedophile (selectively: they decide this with people they don't like but not with people that they do like).
Why am I here lol. I make such bad life choices.
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posted May 14, 2021 01:40 AM |
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Edited by fred79 at 01:42, 14 May 2021.
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but "orange man bad"...
ffs. you guys are absolute tools of the brain-rotting msm. have you ever considered they're BOTH bad? WILL you ever consider it?
do you NOT see how EASY you're excusing who they TOLD you to, and quick to demonize who they ALSO TOLD you to?
you people desperately need to turn your brains on. you are grievously lost. it's like i'm not even talking to people anymore, but robots with answers preprogrammed in a factory. jesus h christ.
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posted May 14, 2021 01:46 AM |
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Ummm, no? Among the long list of negative things I could say about Trump, "child molester" isn't on the list lol. I don't just make things up.
Plus Biden isn't some kind of idol for me so that's wrong also.
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