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posted September 27, 2024 09:40 PM |
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Bytebandit said:
My Stocks are doing well! Are Yours?
Can't fault you if you like paying for all that.
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Bytebandit
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posted September 27, 2024 10:21 PM |
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"Can't fault you if you like paying for all that."
I never feel like I'm "paying for all that" when it comes to buying stocks. That's a bad approach to investing. First, see how much you have on hand that you can spare to invest with. It doesn't have to be a large amount and it doesn't have to be a Blue Chip stock either. Start small and work up to diversifications. (Spreading your gains around the market)
Basically, I look at stocks that would benefit from a potential gain on an investment. Which is always the hope. And it only works to your advantage if you do the research on what you want to invest in. And like anything else, you win some, you lose some. It's no different than going to a casino, but the odds are more in your favor when playing with the markets.
Free markets, not war, baby!
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Salamandre
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posted September 28, 2024 09:44 PM |
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I guess Russia doesn't use economic advisors it sounds like. It shows. Pity.
The thing is, some people in America and Europe just take what medias tell them, and that level of total control leads to abuses, as skipping anything that could nuance the conclusions. Information became ideology and is incomplete.
Boris Eltsin inherited of the collapse of the Soviet Union consequences, he was also very incompetent and humanly flawed, then plundered Russia to a terrible extent. There was no growth under Eltsin and the economy contracted for a decade.
During Putin's first two terms as president, he signed into law a series of liberal economic reforms, such as the flat income tax of 13 percent, reduced profits-tax and new land and civil codes. Within this period, poverty in Russia reduced by more than half and real GDP has grown rapidly (from 1999 to 2008, Russian GDP grew by 94% and per capita GDP doubled). Reducing debt has been a core part of Putin’s financial policy, so the external debt fell from 1243% of reserves in 2000 to 8.9% today. Even if demographics decline (as basically everywhere else in the West), life expectancy is now at an all-time high, higher than at any time in the Soviet Union as well. For example, in 2000 Russians consumed a total of 215mndl of vodka — more than two and half times more than they drink today.
So, it looks like Putin did a tremendous job on economy, seeing where he started from. Even today, the recently named defense minister - Andrei Belousov, has a doctorate in Economy. This alone shows how much Putin prioritize the economical growth as paramount solution to even military problems.
But, medias constantly hammer the mind of naive ignoramus about how Russia sucks at any level, so when Russia successfully resisted to both 20k economic sanctions and billions of dollars injected into Ukraine military - 4 times more than Russian military budget, everything we were "taught" about starts losing sense. Is just that some are late into using their own neurons.
This is not to say Russia doesn't have weaknesses and that Putin is the proud son of Adam Smith. Just that you don't know what you are talking about, and that applies to everyone else calling for an open war which they will not be able to afford, and will even return against them, just look how the EU economy collapsed since we picked the wrong side.
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posted September 28, 2024 10:12 PM |
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Propaganda.
The corruption index
In terms of corruption Russia is on position 141. Same rank as Uganda, Guinea and Kirgistan with a score of 26 out of 100. For comparison, Ukraine is at rank 104 with a score of 36.
Russia is the biggest, richest (in terms of natural resources) country in the world. It should have done the Ukraine job easily enough, but thanks to corruption the army sucks. Thanks to corruption the progress in Russia is quite limited - compare with China (which is on rank 76 with a score of 42 - same as Cuba, actually.
In fact, in a capitalist, democrat country - which Russia is supposed to be - who cares wbout who's president or chancellor or whatever the title of the execurtive head of state has?
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posted September 29, 2024 06:19 AM |
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JollyJoker said:
Propaganda.
The corruption index
Like all other Western ratings in any field, this rating has little relation to reality. Just any Western ratings are propaganda in its purest form.
Salamander was talking about specific measurable things - for example, the size of the national debt. But, as always, you are unable to say anything except that this is propaganda, and then you write real propaganda, which necessarily includes “ratings”. Looking at specific economic values is always more reliable than looking at someone else's ratings. Ratings are always more subjective, and in our time of information wars they simply cannot help but be used for political purposes. This makes discussing them and referring to them pointless.
"Ratings" are propaganda.
And you are the person who is most involved in propaganda here. You are not discussing anything in detail, and if you are discussing it, it is not without adding odious assessments. You never present real facts that speak for themselves.
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posted September 29, 2024 12:45 PM |
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@Salamandre
It's like more, more complicated. First Russia is having a lots of money, usually saved by oligarchs among the whole world. So, basically it's not possible to completely confistate them (Also see Saudi Arabia objections.). The biggest of them (savers) is obviously Putin and his circle.
Anyway, there's hunger.
The "West" loves talking but actions don't follow the promises. It's Russia which is having enormous war budged but you still need to divide it like (ten?) as most of it become lost in corruption.
But certainly Russia is having upper hand in this conflict but not sufficiently to win to engulf whole UA. "West" could change it easily, as much stronger but it's lacking will. Sitation is not yet decided, still being discussed, for way too long.
I think that it could be safely assumed that sanctions work but can't kick out so huge economy out of market. These affects various aspects of life in Russia. But can't choke its economy in short terms. These are simply one of tools, used to detter Russia from breaking international law and attacking its neighborhoods at a whim.
@Ben80
Ratings can be propaganda and are used like that even in time of peace, just for money gain. Luckilly we have full grist of other indicators.
One of them is inflation ..and really many others. Russia is overall somewhere below middle. But some indicators are more indicative than the others, just be cautious about that.
2025/26 seems like time, when things will exhaust or transform to eternal war. Yours "West" do basically nothing, so it's easy to claim victory, albeit it would be pure political, by hypno powers or Russia diplomacy. And some murderers doing the ugly things. And lots of cannon fodder.
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posted September 29, 2024 01:36 PM |
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Post about board game (WW2, East Front):
http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=48131
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posted September 29, 2024 11:37 PM |
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This bit of news might show you the direction of the war with Ukraine:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/war-with-ukraine-is-the-only-thing-preventing-russia-from-entering-an-immediate-recession-economists-say/ar-AA1roU1y?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=ACTS&cvid=cc906cf739894edaa2dc522b65fecade&ei=31
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posted September 30, 2024 12:12 AM |
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Bytebandit
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posted September 30, 2024 02:29 AM |
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Salamandre: Hopefully, there is more than one economist out there.
There is more than one, actually. Same site, different Economist. This one comes from Yale University...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/russia-is-about-to-face-the-moment-of-truth-on-an-economic-lifeline-from-china/ar-AA1rqpcI?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ACTS&cvid=64ff51818bfe4eb09f84c82f6d1051d2&ei=38
... Understand that I'm not out to diss Russians in any way. What is there to gain in doing that? I'm just pointing out the fuel along with the fire. I think Russia's a beautiful country. Loved the people that I've worked with here in the U.S. Very friendly to say the least. And the hardest working people I've ever worked around! And on the other hand, America being America, my neighbors happen to be from Ukraine. They've lived in this neighborhood longer than I have. And I like them too. Even watched their kids when they needed it. My wife and I always ask our Ukrainian and Russian friends living around us of their opinion of the war. Their responses are always the same as expected. Family members. Some are close to the action while some aren't. But family is first on their minds. After that, not much else is talked about it. Neither nationalities put the blame on the other. Just get it over with.
With that said, bottom line-let's grow from this mess as there are other things to do and make better.
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posted September 30, 2024 03:20 AM |
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Bytebandit said:
.. our Ukrainian and Russian friends living around us of their opinion of the war. Their responses are always the same as expected. Family members. Some are close to the action while some aren't. But family is first on their minds. After that, not much else is talked about it. Neither nationalities put the blame on the other. Just get it over with.
What?! Your neighbours are not demented?
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posted September 30, 2024 06:39 PM |
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@Salamandre:
There are a lot of qualities to measure a group of people other than just GDP, but most of those qualities (if not all) are a mixed bag. Having a cultural mindset of resolve isn't such a great thing if it means grinding into something for years on end that has limited success and a lot of negative consequences. This war on Ukraine isn't just causing actual casualties for young men (i.e. young men who theoretically could be raising children, which are Russia's #1 resource by a vast margin), but also contributing to braindrain, because many young men in Russia who have the means to move abroad are doing so. A significant number are here in the States now. The war in Ukraine isn't the only reason to move, but it has certainly contributed to it.
So yeah, the country can plow on with the conflict with intestines of steel and genitalia of adamantine, and to be sure, it does indeed currently seem extremely unlikely/impossible for Ukraine to ever be able to push Russia out. That's not necessarily such a great thing compared to the population demanding a solution from its political leaders, and it doesn't help that people are afraid of their political leaders because federal laws in Russia have sharp teeth when it comes to dealing with any kind of protestors, and the definition of causing public unrest is interpreted extremely loosely in the courts.
And really, all of this shows in the country's portfolio. Saudi Arabia has pretty successfully diversified its economic portfolio over the span of 30 years, and Russia has gone in the opposite direction. It is not a good long-term prospect for the country no matter how you look at it. I take no pleasure in pointing any of this out. I would like to see a prosperous Russia but they've really been screwing the pooch on this.
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posted October 01, 2024 08:45 AM |
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The CIA implanted 12 secret military bases in Ukraine - prior to the conflict, all along the border with Russia and used for intensive spying. Is easy to come later like a virgin and claim war is bad, while in the background multiply the aggressive actions and basically call for a war.
In 1997, The Grand Chessboard by Zbigniew Brzezinski identified the three levers that would allow the United States to maintain the leading role in world affairs in the 21st century:
1) containing the rise of China
2) continuing the division of Europeans, a constant objective since 1945
3) cutting off ex-Soviet Russia from Ukraine
Blizzard said:
contributing to braindrain, because many young men in Russia who have the means to move abroad are doing so. A significant number are here in the States now. The war in Ukraine isn't the only reason to move, but it has certainly contributed to it.
This is incomplete and biased information. 4 million Ukraineans migrated to Russia since 2022 (and 250 000 to USA, just saying). Donbass population is about 7 millions, and now it will be for sure annexed - population wants it then Putin has the fire power to ensure it, like it or not. That makes a big net gain in men power, not a loss.
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posted October 01, 2024 12:44 PM |
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They say that our political world was shaped by the First World War (not even the Second!). Germany, Great Britain, Russia, and the USA had a chance of winning (hegemony).
Germany needed a blitzkrieg against France, it did not achieve it, Russia needed a blitzkrieg against Germany - it did not achieve it, Great Britain needed a new Trafalgar - the Battle of Jutland did not become one. The winner was the USA.
Now there is also a situation of redivision of the world, and it is interesting to think that the United States is in the same position as Great Britain 100 years ago (a weakening hegemon), and Great Britain is now in the role of the United States - it is waiting for its chance. China is now in the position of Germany before the First World War. Russia, as always, is in the role of Russia itself.
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posted October 01, 2024 01:46 PM |
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@Sal:
There are the Ukrainians (or really, Russians) in eastern & southern Ukraine who wanted to be Russian nationals all along, not since 2022, but ever since the post-Soviet borders. Those are added numbers. But what I'm describing is what will probably be a long-term trend. Educated young men and women are going to migrate out of a country that doesn't have a diversified portfolio. The country's future is not good when around 2/3rds of exports are fuel.
Most people who emigrate are young people. Most of the people dying in the war are young people. The age of the people dying or migrating matters.
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posted October 01, 2024 04:58 PM |
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The 'diversification' exists on the surface only. What is the difference between a nut on the tree and one buried in the ground?
You have to remember where you put the nut.
Men dying in battle have zero effect on a countries demographics - only women do.
Provided they are not feminists, ofcourse.
I wouldn't be so sanguine on Saudi Arabia's prospects.
Russia is in a much, much better position.
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posted October 03, 2024 09:01 AM |
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purerogue3 said:
The 'diversification' exists on the surface only. What is the difference between a nut on the tree and one buried in the ground?
You have to remember where you put the nut.
Men dying in battle have zero effect on a countries demographics - only women do.
Provided they are not feminists, ofcourse.
I wouldn't be so sanguine on Saudi Arabia's prospects.
Russia is in a much, much better position.
At the same moment is also in much, much worse position. It all depends on vectors, where you want to go. Some opens, some closes.
The biggest problem is, that's not predictive. To be fair, Russia is much easier to be predicted than "West". Due to leadership systems.
When you have some nature catastrophe, it's indeed unimportant if you nuts are on the tree or in the ground. Both can be dead anyway, so it's kinda random.
When you do have some catastrophe it's vitally important. Considering current Russia attempt to limit women rights to (not) have kids, it's obvious, that russia wants from them more kids. But it's not likely to happen, as we are human not cattle.
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posted October 05, 2024 08:41 AM |
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JollyJoker said:
Propaganda.
The corruption index
I'm in the country that is #3 on that list and was previously #1 for three years in a row. I can tell you that it's false. The policemen here don't ask for bribes on the side of the road. But when it comes to who gets the government contracts it is corrupt as snow. That's why it's called corruption perception index. Perception, particularly of distant places, is strongly affected by the media.
Another example of that from here. NZ has a marketing strategy called "clean green New Zealand". That is largely the perception overseas. But how many people know that almost half of the NZ rivers (by length) are unsafe to swim due to contamination and that NZ helicopter-drops into it's native forests 80% of the world production of the pesticide sodium fluoroacetate (aka 1080) that is banned in countries like United States?
I wondered how people's perceptions about this country could be so positively distorted and why. What I've come to think is that people want to believe that there is a perfect little country on the edge of the world and far away from everything, that they could visit or escape to some day. And when the marketers tell them so, they gobble it up willingly and with delight.
This topic is not about NZ but I draw a parallel. It is important to be discerning and research what we are being told about distant countries before making definitive conclusions. It is also good to be aware of what we want to be true.
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posted October 05, 2024 11:13 AM |
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And didn’t Ursula von der Leyen "earn" billions of euros from extra doses of the Covid vaccine ? Or is this again Kremlin propaganda ?
I'll be honest - I don't know if this is true. I proceed from my life experience and intuition (or as they say in the West - "highly likely", when they talk about Russia - “highly likely Russia is always to blame for everything”). She does not seem to me to be a highly moral person or even a person who herself observes what she calls others to do.
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posted October 05, 2024 11:47 AM |
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*Or is this again Kremlin propaganda ?*
I don't know the world's propaganda ranking, but North Korea is a hard liar than Russia.. My friend visited North Korea.. First video tells about North Korea, it after you can watch city, etc Video showed that North Korea beat the USA.. Video showed how the fighter and war ship were destroyed.. It's one example..
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