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The units are good without spells, and the spells dont last forever, so with you saying that Blackies will win because they cannot be effected by spells is a bit wrong imho.

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Spells do not determine the battle unless they are killing spells like Chain Lightning, Armageddon, Implosion etc.
Those are perhaps the best spells in the game.

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The units are good without spells, and the spells dont last forever, so with you saying that Blackies will win because they cannot be effected by spells is a bit wrong imho.

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He never said that Black Dragons will win because they cannot be affected by spells, he merely stated that the Armageddon + Black Dragons is a very dangerous tactic.

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Spells do not determine the battle unless they are killing spells like Chain Lightning, Armageddon, Implosion etc.
Those are perhaps the best spells in the game.

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Try facing an army with Expert Shield cast on them, or Expert Prayer, without expert water magic at your disposal, then try to say that again. I'd say Blind comes fairly close to being the best spell in the game, just for the record.

Damage spells require much more spellpower to be effective, and anti-magic and resist spells will negate them pretty well. If your opponent can cast powerful implosion spells, and you can not, then your creatures will most likely have higher stats due to your hero's focus in other things than spellpower.

Oh, and sorry for going off topic folks. Just felt like debating.

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Now the dispel magic and anti magic are good but there are some artifacts that render them useless, whereas there are no artifacts that can render your implosion spell useless now is there?
No there isnt, Chain Lightning has an artifact, but not implosion and I dont think Armaggedon has, except maybe Armaggedons Blade.
Other than that the offensive spells may be the best, although the defensive spells are also very good.

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Now the dispel magic and anti magic are good but there are some artifacts that render them useless, whereas there are no artifacts that can render your implosion spell useless now is there?
No there isnt, Chain Lightning has an artifact, but not implosion and I dont think Armaggedon has, except maybe Armaggedons Blade.
Other than that the offensive spells may be the best, although the defensive spells are also very good.

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Indeed, but I would also like to point out the following:

1. To get implosion, you will need to have a level 5 guild in one of your towns, and even if you do have that, the chance that you actually get it is not terribly high.

2. Implosion requires your hero to have a large amount of knowledge to cast it.

3. Also, you can halve the damage from Implosion by casting Earth Resistance, reflect it with Magic Mirror, or deny it completely with Anti Magic.

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Implosion also wont cost as much spell points if you have Expert Earth Magic, will cost less to use rendering it better than most other spells, but unfortunately only targets one unit at a time which can be alright but sometimes bad if all the opponent has is level 7 units in his army.

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1)Archangel
2)Arch Devil
3)Titan
4)Ancient Behemoth
5)Black Dragon
6)Gold Dragon
7)Chaos Hydra
8)Ghost Dragon
9)Phoenix

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Interesting thread.  Here are some things I would like to add:

1.  One thing that makes Arch Angels better is that when you finally do face them in that final battle, chances are, their army is bigger than yours.  I hate having an army with gold dragons and grand elves, and each fight kills 10 or so elves, and after a while I need to restock because all I have left are Gold Dragons.  Contrast that with Arch Angels which can rez the grand elves before each fight concludes, and in many fights your army hasn't lost a single troop.
2.  A disadvantage for hydras and other slow troops.  To make the hydra effective, your first spell has to get them into the battle, whether that be teleport or haste.  You can't think of offensive spells, or bless or prayer.  As a result, your tactical options are more limited when you have hydras in a party.  Having said that, I must still confess that I find Fortress to be a lot of fun to play.

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Doesn't prayer raise speed with 4 and haste with 5? Why does that 1 matter so much you can't do it first turn?

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I suppose it depend on where you wanted the hydras to attack on the board.  The point I was trying to make is that you first spell as Fortress is to cast a spell that will get your hydras in the thick of the action.  With ArchAngels and other units like Dragons, that isn't an issue.  Since it isn't an issue, you have much more flexibility on how you choose to attack your opponent.  You can cast slow.  You can cast Implosion or Chain Lightning.  Fortress?  Teleport, Haste, or apparently Prayer are your only options.

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1)Archangel
2)Arch Devil
3)Titan
4)Ancient Behemoth
5)Black Dragon
6)Gold Dragon
7)Chaos Hydra
8)Ghost Dragon
9)Phoenix

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Phoenix only 9th? Remeber, phoenixes have double growth. All other lvl7 have 2(3)units/week, phoenixes have 4(6)units/week. Breath attack, greatest speed, great special. You underrated them.
My favorite lvl7.

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Phoenix only 9th? Remeber, phoenixes have double growth. All other lvl7 have 2(3)units/week, phoenixes have 4(6)units/week. Breath attack, greatest speed, great special. You underrated them.
My favorite lvl7.

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