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Thread: Necropolis power deficiency ! This thread is 23 pages long: 1 10 ... 14 15 16 17 18 ... 20 23 · «PREV / NEXT»
3agl3
3agl3

Tavern Dweller
posted March 25, 2007 10:12 PM

new here.. i just want to say that necro is imbalanced. In the newest patch you don't have thousands of skelies because there are dark points which makes necro more imblanced (while in the 1.0 there you have really a lot of skellies very quickly..). Once I played vs my brother (i was necro, he was academy); i have more army from every stack (in numbers). Guess who won? He. He simply killed all my liches, wights, skellies and vampires. Still i did a big mistake in that game. I didn't take luck skill (I won a few games with necro but most of them i lost). Since then i really don't like necropolis anymore. If anybody is master of this army then please just tell me the right tactics to win with this zombies and all...  

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Istari
Istari


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posted March 27, 2007 02:52 PM

There is a thread called "The New Necromancer" that describes a detailed strategy to help the Necromancer.  I'd be cool and put a link here for you, but I don't know how.  It's probably on about the third page of posts by now.  Right now I use the Necro and my friends think that it is unbalanced (too good).  Good luck.
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ZombieLord
ZombieLord


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posted March 27, 2007 02:57 PM
Edited by ZombieLord at 14:58, 27 Mar 2007.

to put a link...

Go to the web page you want to link. Copy the address from the address bar. Then, in your post, type
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[!url=paste address]name_of_the_link[/url]
WITHOUT THAT EXCLAMATION MARK THERE. It should look like [url=...
I place that ! there because otherwise it would have been treated like a link (or not?)

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Istari
Istari


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posted March 27, 2007 03:15 PM

Thanks Zombielord.  The link for the New Necromancer strategy is here
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necrorevan
necrorevan


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posted May 03, 2007 09:43 PM

I totally agree with Silverhawk5504.
The Necros are weaker than in homm 3 and it's my favourite faction
I mean even if u had 500 skeleton archer they couldn't kill 20 black dragons. Wraith are a bad replacement for Dread Knight ( my favourites) and spectral dragons are pitiful (if only they were incorporeal).
They should buff them up a bit and add new abilities such as incorporeal to spectral dragon and skeletal from Homm 4 to skeletons (skeletal increases creature's Ranged Defense by 100%).

WTF, the necros defied death and now they can't handle a bunch of flower sniffers, arrogant mages, cave dwellers, mindless demons and primitive humans....

However the Necropolis was, is and always will be my fav.
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Plexus22
Plexus22


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posted May 04, 2007 12:42 AM

Dont forget that Necro was banned in most online games in H3. The idea in HV was to avoid a massively overpowering Necro.

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Wygnall
Wygnall

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posted May 28, 2007 04:44 PM

HELP!

Hello I'm new and heard this was the place to go for help on haven campaign last mission. I manage to get Isabell and capture the town quick enough, but after a few enemy attacks (last time three was all it took) My heroes are D-E-A-D. I need help real bad because I can't live long enough to get the tears of Asha because defeat comes with every army, and if I survive, The next one comes so quick I have only a week for my forces to replenish! If you can help me please hurry because I think I'll die of shame if I don't get this one done SOON!
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Drunk_Lord
Drunk_Lord


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posted April 05, 2008 08:56 AM

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I noticed several things: first, necromancy skill with only one town is really disappointing. I mean, it does allow you to add to ranks other than previously (just skellies) but waiting an entire week while not being able to ressurrect many is very annoying (I know the wait thing is for balance, but truly, getting many vampires/liches is nigh impossible till late). Then, you have a great deal of creeps giving spectres or zombies which is not very useful. Less give you skellies (your main resource).

Then you take skellies for instance. You cannot amazingly horde them due to differences in necromancy but you can still acquire quite a few. However, getting enough to make them your ultimate artillery is very hard. Warriors have much better stats but try getting them into battle ugh....

Wasting DE on skellies? Better save it for something more productive, vampires for example.

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Vampires are good for their level and provide a lot for your army. Liches are also excellent in their respective firepower but again being large really hurts. Wraiths are very poor in comparison and their special abilities are pretty much terrible. Dragons are the same not to mention the expense in getting the level 6 and 7.

In fact I find the wraith quite decent. About the expense, I think that the wraiths are worth it. But about the 7 lvl, better not obsess urself with getting the dragons.

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I usually like to go offense-frenzy skill-archery, defense-vitality (maybe protection too), enlightenment-intel and others, summoning-life  or conjuration, dark, then its usually a toss up. I do not know if this is optimal but it just doesnt seem to do much. I almost even take  luck for its insane bonuses (Luck of 5 gives 50% chance to deal double damage, combine that with lets say a first round dragon attack [ps with 3 larges its hard not to present a double breath opportunity] is ridiculously powerful....) and helping ghosts/bashing (if I went that route).

It's the right time for "Where do this guys come from?" OK, apart from that: necropolis' initiative means that the first to strike usually will be ur enemy. After that u can balance the scales with mass slow. Don't count on dragons, they're pathetic and very expensive. Luck? May do. But well, don't count on getting +5 luck, it won't happen every time. Double breath? "Nice".

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Still Raise dead helps early but later when Dungeon is spamming implosion using chains (and prolly bought the earth damage thing) or another spell really just decimates things. Combine that with their much higher initiative (sure you can slow them and whatnot, but losing potentially 3 stacks in the first turn is just.....). Dragon, charge, implosion(or substitute spell). Not to mention the absolutely stupid morale increasing things that litter a lot of maps really hurt the necro because they can use temples and such to gain a skill that really further emphasizes your lack of iniative.

Vs dungeon necro has really hard time. I suggest Zoltan with intelligence and counterspell. Try to get damage-reduction arties if u can. Swift mind really helps.

After that, don't u have other work apart from reviving threads?
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Cleave
Cleave


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posted April 05, 2008 12:52 PM

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After that, don't u have other work apart from reviving threads?


Which are no longer relevant due to alternative upgrades and a very different skill system.

Thread necromancy has its limits...

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Plague
Plague


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Only Hell know my pain
posted April 07, 2008 08:51 PM

My opinion is necropolis is to weak in H5,that anger me,i like this race.And i hope some1 will see my topic and will help me to find a way againts infernals

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Elvin
Elvin


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posted April 07, 2008 08:55 PM

You do know it's one of the best races right..? In HoF it was totally broken now it's beatable.
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Plague
Plague


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Only Hell know my pain
posted April 07, 2008 09:00 PM

undead one of the best races?but how?i cant see a way to beat any1 with the undead.
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Fauch
Fauch


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posted April 07, 2008 09:05 PM

actually it was the best faction in the 1st version of the game (I'm not sure how strong it was in HOF) because of animate dead, I think.

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Drunk_Lord
Drunk_Lord


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posted April 08, 2008 01:08 PM

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actually it was the best faction in the 1st version of the game (I'm not sure how strong it was in HOF) because of animate dead, I think.

in H5 a warlock with raise dead was nearly invincible
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Fauch
Fauch


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posted April 08, 2008 01:29 PM

a warlock? you mean, from the dungeon?

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Drunk_Lord
Drunk_Lord


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posted April 08, 2008 01:46 PM

yeah
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Plague
Plague


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Only Hell know my pain
posted April 08, 2008 01:48 PM
Edited by Plague at 13:48, 08 Apr 2008.

we are speaking about necropolis,maybe warlock is good for dark magic,but a necromancer should lead the undead armies
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Drunk_Lord
Drunk_Lord


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posted April 08, 2008 01:51 PM

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we are speaking about necropolis,maybe warlock is good for dark magic,but a necromancer should lead the undead armies

1st, no one said anything about a warlock with dark magic. Second I just said that a warlock is very good with raise dead. Third no one said that a warlock should lead the necro armies.
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Plague
Plague


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Only Hell know my pain
posted April 08, 2008 02:30 PM

first and last i though u speak about prevoius,when i had some question about necropolis.That means u spoken about something and i about somethingelse.
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Drunk_Lord
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posted April 08, 2008 02:54 PM

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right but lets end this off-topic disscussion
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