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posted April 23, 2008 03:15 PM |
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Sorry for OT, but even 'uninhabited' planets may play a role in the balance of the world, or they could be inhabited by different means (e.g we do not know for sure that is!). it's pretty easy to wipe out an alien species and then say "oops", but the consequences aren't fixed by being sorry (well in this respect).
Since we do not know much about the Universe, we might just end up destroying any 'hidden' balance there exists (hidden as in the sense that we don't know about it, or perhaps can't even perceive it).
As far as Earth goes, it's pretty clear that we are just destroying wherever we go first, and then perhaps try to repair -- so colonization == destructive conquest 
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posted April 23, 2008 03:19 PM |
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But if we find alien race, how we know they don't wipe us?They would be doing small favour to earth by doing that.
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Colonisation could be Constructive as well, maybe we add something valuable to the planet. Terraforming comes to mind, from being an arid planet to a green, lush world.
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Depends what of us they wipe out... every human being or those that may be a threat to other humans, the aliens or the rest of the galaxy.
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posted April 23, 2008 03:44 PM |
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Depends what of us they wipe out... every human being or those that may be a threat to other humans, the aliens or the rest of the galaxy.
That means everyone, everyone will be threat eventualy.There is no "perfect person".
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posted April 23, 2008 03:54 PM |
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Of course there is no perfect persons but sure there are alternatives with a more lasting appeal than others. Like I would rather wipe out terrorists than diplomats.
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posted April 23, 2008 04:02 PM |
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And let the diplomats talk on nuking the alien's?
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posted April 24, 2008 10:15 AM |
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Is it better to never try to meet people and go places for fear of killing those you encounter...?
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posted April 24, 2008 11:39 AM |
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If there is an impulsive murdered, I'd wish he wouldn't go on around the city meeting people waiting to snap. He should be in a mental institution or jail. The same goes to humanity - I wish for the sake of other races that they don't meet this idiot called human race. It can kill. It can destroy. It can convince itself that it is doing the Good thing while doing it. Yeah, just look at the species on the planet and how we treat them.
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posted April 29, 2008 12:12 PM |
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Off-off-topic, I was thinking, and this seemed an appropriate place for those thoughts...
What if God was an atheist? 
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posted April 29, 2008 12:19 PM |
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Thinking about it god must be an atheist.
Why?
If god is the greatest thing there is then god has nothing to believe in.
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posted April 30, 2008 11:26 AM |
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I think the Christian God is only once fascit of something. All religions are..but that is just my belief. In this great big universe we live in, we only know and have encountered a minute fraction of what there is to know/encounter. So our minds try to grasp it and make sense out of it.
Some try to make sense out of it by 'quantifying it'. They test, and retest it until it makes sense..in their mind. Which is ok. Except they forget that every rule has an exception. So they redefine what they think occasionally. If a few people, or a bunch of animals, or the environment get hurt along the way so what. They are not to blame, something else is.
Some people try to make sense out of it with a higher power. They believe, and don't question making it make sense in their own way. Which is ok. Except they forget blind faith can be a bad thing, and can be twisted to something dark and sinister. If people get hurt along the way so what. They are not to blame, something else is.
Some people try to rationalize that people are decent. They think people will eventually realize that they shouldn't be so self absorbed. Except they get self absorbed sometimes also, and forget that they to don't know everything. If people get hurt along the way, it is unfortunate, but they tried to tell them..didn't they. They are not to blame, something else is.
Somepeople just don't care. As long as they get what they want, everybody and everything else can go to pot. Everybody should do what they want, and not question..they know best. If people get hurt, as long as it's not them, who cares. They are not to blame, everything or everybody else is.
Animals don't have feelings. Lets torture and test them, after all were superior to them. Right? Now that that is done, lets find some human subjects. Unimportant people, lets test on them. Nobody will miss them.
Anything can be used for the wrong purpose by some people, and made to look horrible by some. Almost anything can be made to be 'acceptable' also. It doesn't make it right. Were not to blame though are we. It's always somebody elses fault..not ours...right?
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posted April 30, 2008 12:59 PM |
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@Mytical: so many rhetorical questions 
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If god is the greatest thing there is then god has nothing to believe in.
I don't know about God, but we all 'believe' in something, regardless of God. It's either our eyes, our ears (let's just say senses), our logic, our thoughts, our feelings, our reason, etc etc
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posted April 30, 2008 01:34 PM |
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This thread is about 90% rhetorical questions...
I mean... is this thread about 90% rhetorical questions?
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posted May 02, 2008 08:07 AM |
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Can a mod please remove my real name from the first post in this thread? Thanks.
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posted May 02, 2008 08:38 AM |
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@Mytical: so many rhetorical questions
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If god is the greatest thing there is then god has nothing to believe in.
I don't know about God, but we all 'believe' in something, regardless of God. It's either our eyes, our ears (let's just say senses), our logic, our thoughts, our feelings, our reason, etc etc
But if god would be all knowing etc. etc. god wouldn't need to believe in anything because god would know everything.
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posted May 02, 2008 12:20 PM |
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I think the Mantis also gave up believing in god
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posted May 02, 2008 12:45 PM |
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But if god would be all knowing etc. etc. god wouldn't need to believe in anything because god would know everything.
But he would believe in himself, in his all-knowing ability
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posted May 02, 2008 02:55 PM |
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But god wouldn't believe in him/herself since god would know he/she is all-knowing.
I just realised that would be impossible. It proves itself. It isn't a fact then.
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posted May 02, 2008 04:55 PM |
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But god wouldn't believe in him/herself since god would know he/she is all-knowing.
I don't get it.
When you know everything, you believe in yourself, that you know everything. You can't know that you know everything because the latter is applied first, and does not include the former. It is not like a feedback effect (output goes into input, i.e the "know everything" would go into the input).
sorry if that doesn't make sense
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posted May 31, 2008 06:24 AM |
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