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posted June 16, 2008 11:51 AM |
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Quality star for Scarletshield please! 
For bringing some values and the light of God into this confused forum. Continue your mission for us, please.
This is my favourite:
"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the Valley of Darkness; for he is truly his brother’s keeper, and the finder of lost children. And, I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers! And, you will know my name is The Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee!"
blood, more blood, please! 
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posted June 16, 2008 11:55 AM |
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Yes let's all kill each other
Last man standing is right 
Oh and guy above me, good movie, but not a real bible quote
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posted June 16, 2008 11:57 AM |
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And this is my favorite. Love thy neighbor as thy would thyself. Or..
May mercy and peace be with thee all thy days.
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posted June 16, 2008 11:58 AM |
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This is my favourite
"Imagine there's no heaven..." 
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posted June 16, 2008 12:00 PM |
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All you infidel vermin are living a lie.
Fixed it for you.
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I know most people won't be bothered to read it, but it's quite interesting for those who can be.
It confuses me.  Really.
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Wonder what happened to the 'shove it down their throat, or kill them'...
Don't take things out of their context. Jesus was looking for more proselyte. He did not have the Roman empire supporting him. That came later.
And the church has always supported minimal freedom of religion, while the false prophets shouldn't be tolerated to spread their heresy, no one should be forced to convert to catholicism.
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Quality star for Scarletshield please!
For bringing some values and the light of God into this confused forum. Continue your mission for us, please.
Thank you, and yes I will continue.
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posted June 16, 2008 12:01 PM |
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And this is my favorite. Love thy neighbor as thy would thyself.
Loving your neighbour also means protecting him or her from harm and from false prophets.
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posted June 16, 2008 12:02 PM |
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Oh and guy above me, good movie, but not a real bible quote
I didn't know - sounds like it was real 
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posted June 16, 2008 12:03 PM |
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Well there you go hey
anyway
there goes any chance of reasonable discussion for a while
until Zan gets silenced anyway
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posted June 16, 2008 12:07 PM |
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Funny, I always took it more to mean to respect their views and ways as much as you want them to respect yours. Weird.
Though this would be better served in another topic. However, one last thing. Why does an all-powerful, all-seeing, all-knowing deity need people to do his 'dirty' work for him? Sorry, just doesn't jive.
Sure, tell people about your religion. That is all well and good. Let HIM sort things out if they don't accept it. It's his job right?
After all he tells us. "Judge not least ye be judged and found wanting." Not our job to judge other people's ways and beliefs.
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posted June 16, 2008 12:34 PM |
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@Scarlet
There is no better or worse baklava. There's just good baklava and baklava with peanuts (which, quite possibly, is the deed of the Lord himself).
Completely upper left are the stalinists. Ordinary communists are just a bit lefter than you are
Anyway, I completely agree with your opinion on Franco. He was a great man, a great catholic and he did many wonderful things for his country, like torturing and killing all those libertarians and people with ideologies of freedom which are so harmful to our Lord and Savior. Alright, maybe he did cooperate with Hitler, maybe he did allow Spanish volunteers to fight on the German side on the eastern front, and his police measures are responsible for deaths of tens of thousands of people, but what's that compared to the fact that he spread the word of the Lord to all those godless masses?
I am sad that the Spanish people banned the national flag with the Imperial Eagle. It was such a lovely reminder of the good days for Spain.
@Paraform
The Lord himself shall judge upon who is vermin and who isn't. His hand guides to Heaven or bans to Hell; and there is still hope for you if you repent and join us. I was libertarian once, I believed in false idols such as freedom and peace, but thank the Lord I found the true way!
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posted June 16, 2008 12:46 PM |
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He was a great man, a great catholic and he did many wonderful things for his country, like torturing and killing all those libertarians and people with ideologies of freedom which are so harmful to our Lord and Savior.
Holy truth, Amen!
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posted June 16, 2008 12:49 PM |
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Well, he was a good catholic, and I have noting against dictatorship. Sure, he did introduce some cruel punishments but that's better than having a communist or anarchist dictatorship where everyone is forced to be atheist.
So, the end justifies the means? How makavellian. the medieval times really shine through.
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posted June 16, 2008 01:12 PM |
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The Lord himself shall judge upon who is vermin and who isn't. His hand guides to Heaven or bans to Hell; and there is still hope for you if you repent and join us. I was libertarian once, I believed in false idols such as freedom and peace, but thank the Lord I found the true way!
I love your sarcasm, baklava  .
@Paraform
We shall see who will remain victorious .
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I'd rather justify the means with the outcome than otherwise. Sometimes without obviously evil acts you can only arrive at a catastrophe.
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posted June 16, 2008 01:17 PM |
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Anarchist dictator lol?
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posted June 16, 2008 01:22 PM |
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I'd rather justify the means with the outcome than otherwise. Sometimes without obviously evil acts you can only arrive at a catastrophe.
So you're saying that with the occasional necessary evil act you can prevent catastrophe? Meaning in an indirect way that to gain peace you should occasionally wage war? That torture of one man is alright, if it could save several men?
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Thanks for the warm re-wellcome-ing It's always that refreshing to be called a vermin, a stupid or simply a fool. But vermin is just that literal, I think I keep it.
Titaniumalloy, I could not manage to read more than the first 2-3 rows. Why? Because: "Traditionally, a belief in God was attractive because it promised to " God is not a shiny-goody fluffy gismo-gadget from top shop. And religion (or might more precisely -faith) shall not be attractive (not in the way like a car) Ona should not believe in sg. because it sounds nice but because one truly accepted that as truth. And now we can think in a larger palette, not only christianity. A faith is not sg. to lure you. If I wanted something trendy I would wear an ear-ring.
And: "Why did God..." Why the sky is blue (besides of the nature of electro-magnetic waves) Why is the grass green (over than clorophil -erg: why clorophil is green?) And why do we think we could understand the reasons of our omniscient creator? Do these writers have not the least fantasy? Can't they think might it would happen that their brain has a border of understanding? aahhhhh...
Nevermind, as I see I misunderstood the use of this topic. It is about "Throw in biblical quotes and laugh at them". I was mistaken.
"Though this would be better served in another topic. However, one last thing. Why does an all-powerful, all-seeing, all-knowing deity need people to do his 'dirty' work for him? Sorry, just doesn't jive.
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1st: see above
2nd: Why does a fullgrown, self-aware, healthy humankind make their kid do the "dirty work" like mixing the sauce for the cake? It is just that far repulsive!!!!!!!
EDIT:I managed to read through
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posted June 16, 2008 01:31 PM |
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Nevermind, as I see I misunderstood the use of this topic. It is about "Throw in biblical quotes and laugh at them".
ditto. That's why I am not participating in it anymore It kinda degenerated into "look how funny I am with my quotes". Yawn.
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posted June 16, 2008 01:39 PM |
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Titaniumalloy, I could not manage to read more than the first 2-3 rows.
Then don't respond to it.
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posted June 16, 2008 01:41 PM |
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Nevermind, as I see I misunderstood the use of this topic. It is about "Throw in biblical quotes and laugh at them"
Agreed. But when radicalism makes discussion impossible I don't mind some irony/sarcasm thrown against it. Laugh is all one can do.
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posted June 16, 2008 01:41 PM |
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I'd rather justify the means with the outcome than otherwise. Sometimes without obviously evil acts you can only arrive at a catastrophe.
So you're saying that with the occasional necessary evil act you can prevent catastrophe? Meaning in an indirect way that to gain peace you should occasionally wage war? That torture of one man is alright, if it could save several men?
I was unclear. It is not right because it leads to good outcome, but it is a better choice, at least for me.
If peace cannot be gained in other way (i.e. war is inevitable or we must have submitted to enemy's rule in order to maintain peace), war is the lesser evil in my opinion.
Of course the harm done should not exceed that which is meant to be prevented, otherwise it would make no sense at all, and if there are peaceful means of achieving the same outcome, they should be chosen.
What I mean is that you should not allow whole town to be destroyed for sake of one house, while it makes sense to sacrifice a single house to save the town.
Sometimes you have only bad choices to make...
@galev
Yes, now we either have offtopics here or quote-bash-laugh contest. Offtopics are what keeps me here .
Besides, your point on the first paragaph of the article TA quoted is very viable. A very narrowminded view of what faith is, truly.
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