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radar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Castle/Haven player
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posted November 14, 2007 04:04 PM |
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Tested with Inquisitors - works only on meele.
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siinn
Adventuring Hero
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posted November 15, 2007 05:32 PM |
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No it isn't imbalanced.Because the Barb hero can't cast any spell(except the 6 warcries)ONLY 6 spells wow that's what i call imbalanced
yes it is! (imbalanced)
orcs don't need spells and IMHO they should gain less XP from shrines because they level-up too fast!
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phoenixreborn
Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
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posted November 15, 2007 06:39 PM |
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Imbalanced why?
What would you rather have for a wizard hero at level 8 with advanced summoning.
Phantom forces or 3000 exp getting you up to level 9?
I'm glad the Barbarians get something at magic shrines, they could very easily have gotten nothing.
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted November 15, 2007 07:13 PM |
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Imbalanced why?
What would you rather have for a wizard hero at level 8 with advanced summoning.
Phantom forces or 3000 exp getting you up to level 9?
I'm glad the Barbarians get something at magic shrines, they could very easily have gotten nothing.
But chances for learning Phantom Forces in a shrine is only about 1/10 - and once you know the spell, you will have no use of it anymore. Barbarians can visit multiple shrine to get successive experience.
But hey, they could make it balanced, if all other heroes receive the same amount of experience, should they happen to know the spell the shrine provides. That way, it would be similar for all.
Numbers should be 500 / 1000 / 1500 XP by the way ... 3000 is pretty much. 
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What will happen now?
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bloucester
Famous Hero
MSN can go to hell
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posted November 15, 2007 08:14 PM |
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Numbers should be 500 / 1000 / 1500 XP by the way ... 3000 is pretty much.
Kinda looks like Heroes 4's Dream Teachers 
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Odish
Hired Hero
No longer a tavern dweller : )
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posted November 16, 2007 12:40 AM |
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What do barbs get in utopias and mage vaults instead of spells? warcrys?
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sith_of_ziost
Promising
Supreme Hero
Scouting the Multiverse
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posted November 16, 2007 02:01 AM |
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Well, if I were playing the Barbs, then I probably wouldn't waste the time to conquer the Utopia or Vaults. I'd focus on crushing my oppressors.
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phoenixreborn
Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
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posted November 16, 2007 02:18 AM |
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What do barbs get in utopias and mage vaults instead of spells? warcrys?
4000 or 5000 experience depending on spell level...according to the fan manual.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted November 16, 2007 02:23 AM |
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Then primary motivation is the gold and arties  But I would probably not care to attack a mage vault.
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phoenixreborn
Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
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posted November 16, 2007 02:40 AM |
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Ahem, well i haven't tried it yet...but don't you get multiple spells...that could potentially be 15,000 experience on top of what you get for killing the monsters.
Edit: tried it out and I did see an extra 15,000 experience. Unfortunately it wasn't enough to go up to level 21 from level 20...
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emilsn
Legendary Hero
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posted November 16, 2007 02:38 PM |
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What do barbs get in utopias and mage vaults instead of spells? warcrys?
They get EXP and ressoureces
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Don't walk behind me; I may not
lead. Don't walk in front of me;
I may not follow. Just walk
beside me and be my friend.
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TemjinGold
Known Hero
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posted November 16, 2007 02:40 PM |
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You guys are forgetting that barbies NEED to be higher level because they can't cast spells. If they leveled at the same rate as other heroes, they'd be hopelessly crushed.
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Homer171
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted November 16, 2007 09:44 PM |
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That experience price is still pretty bad compared to others. Hmm, this is probably why they changed the spells to random  Still you have 50% change of getting nice spell..
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Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed. The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force.
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted November 17, 2007 07:39 AM |
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But hey, they could make it balanced, if all other heroes receive the same amount of experience, should they happen to know the spell the shrine provides. That way, it would be similar for all.
Numbers should be 500 / 1000 / 1500 XP by the way ... 3000 is pretty much.
3000 may be a bit much but don't you think that if all the heroes who allready knew the spell would get the same amount of xp as the barb that that would be pretty unbalanced because they would get the same as the Barb PLUS the spell. So I think it's ok that it's only the Barbs that get exp. I'mean come on somehow they need to compensate that they can't use ANY magic.
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Legendary_Hero
Known Hero
Stronghold Warchief
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posted November 17, 2007 02:35 PM |
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Yeah you are right,but atleast they can add some new 1 or 2 warcries to dispel or something new.
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Don't look back because you will...die?
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sylvian_prince
Hired Hero
the ranged hanter
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posted November 18, 2007 09:50 AM |
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it is not the lvl that's counts its the time after 10 weaks the barbar is unstopible! even if you have pupet master,frenzy phantom ets... nothing can help you (ofcorse only if the barbar reach lvl 10 at least and he will....)
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Darkavatar
Adventuring Hero
Overlord Divine
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posted November 18, 2007 10:59 AM |
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The weird thing is: They look at arantirs note and think. Oh what the hell, he wants to kill thousands of people but!! To imprison Kha baleth for eternity!! ... But instead they go kill arantir and he does it himself.. Screw stonehelm...
I think that Sareth didn`t sacrifises the people. He is the Dark Messiah and if he can uleash the demons he can probably seal them away also, but Arantir must sacrifice people.
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What is it exactly we have created. It is "New World Order".
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted November 18, 2007 11:50 AM |
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Arantir couldn't trust Sareth, heck he was the Sovereign's heir. Would you let him try to seal or free his father? Way too much of a risk.
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dale
Known Hero
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posted November 19, 2007 09:05 PM |
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I have just purchased Toe and the fort expansion, but have not yet installed them. I am still playing some downloaded maps for the original game.
My question is whether there are any pros (or cons) to go ahead and install these two additions while I am playing maps from the original. In particular, will some of the ToE features such as caravan become active on an original game map?
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Grey Beards of the world, Unite :-}}
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Cepheus
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted November 19, 2007 09:08 PM |
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TotE is entirely seperate, it will have no effect at all on HoF or the original.
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