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Warmonger
Promising
Legendary Hero
fallen artist
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posted May 14, 2008 07:43 AM |
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ebbafan
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted May 14, 2008 08:01 AM |
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sounds like tear of asha vision to me
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Nerull
Hired Hero
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posted May 14, 2008 08:52 AM |
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Ebbafan is correct, again.
All the heroes can take that perk, but once one really uses it, it means the Tear is no longer buried and none can dig it out, so the perk becomes useless.
On to ebbafan.
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ebbafan
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted May 14, 2008 04:27 PM |
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lucky me! my question for the knowledgable is this:
list at least 20, yes 20 ways you can potentially prevent an enemy hero from resurrecting a dead stack on his next turn.
assume the following:
-the dead stack is a large unit
-there are live enemy units ahead of and behind the dead stack
-it is your turn next, followed by two of your units, which have enough speed to actually go past the dead target, then it is the enemy's turn
-you can have whatever hero/abilities/spells/units/attributes,etc. that you want.
good luck!
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Gauldoth
Adventuring Hero
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posted May 14, 2008 04:35 PM |
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Ow no 20 is a lot...
1-Scraveger : eat the dead unit
2-Consume corpse : Destroy the dead unit
3-But a creature ON the dead unit : Corpse dissapers cuz ure on it
4-Soulhunter ability : A ghost appers on the dead unit
Any other ideas? Continue from 5 and who ever gets 20 first wins  plz dont repeat other people or this question is gonna takes ages to finish
Guesses :
5- steal mana : Enemy hero does not have any mana to raise dead or ressurrect
6- Consume mana ( spectre ) : Enemy creature has no mana to raise dead or ressurrect ( mummy - lichmaster - archangel )
By the way can i find several ways to land on the corpse? Or landing on the corpse only counts as 1 way? like can I accept battle dive - rush dive than land on the corpse as another way of bocking???
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ebbafan
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted May 14, 2008 04:38 PM |
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yes different ways of blocking the corpse count differently
you are doing well, btw!
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Gauldoth
Adventuring Hero
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posted May 14, 2008 04:38 PM |
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Quote:
Ow no 20 is a lot...
1-Scraveger : eat the dead unit
2-Consume corpse : Destroy the dead unit
3-But a creature ON the dead unit : Corpse dissapers cuz ure on it
4-Soulhunter ability : A ghost appers on the dead unit
Any other ideas? Continue from 5 and who ever gets 20 first wins plz dont repeat other people or this question is gonna takes ages to finish
Guesses :
5- steal mana : Enemy hero does not have any mana to raise dead or ressurrect
6- Consume mana ( spectre ) : Enemy creature has no mana to raise dead or ressurrect ( mummy - lichmaster - archangel )
By the way can i find several ways to land on the corpse? Or landing on the corpse only counts as 1 way? like can I accept battle dive - rush dive than land on the corpse as another way of bocking???
Sorry about 6 that does not count, Didnt realise u said enemy hero...
I change 6 to
6- Corrupt light - enemy hero does not have enough mana cuz u have doubled the cost of ressurrection
7- Corrupt dark - enemy hero does not have enough mana to raise dead
( u said potential ways didnt u )
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Gauldoth
Adventuring Hero
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posted May 14, 2008 04:40 PM |
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In that case
8- battle dive : land on the corpse
9- rush dive : land on the corpse again
10- Finish the battle before its your enemys turn ( he cant raise anythin unless he has guardian angel and this potetially stops him from casting )
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ebbafan
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted May 14, 2008 04:53 PM |
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very good creative ideas so far! maybe i should have said 40
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Gauldoth
Adventuring Hero
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posted May 14, 2008 05:03 PM |
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11-Spellwrinker ability : Blocks your enemys ressurrection spell after its used once
12-Spellwrinker ability : Blocks raise dead after used once...
13-Goblin whitch-doctor : Blocks the spell of enemy completely if lucky enough
14-Summon elemental : An elemental appers on enemy corpse
15-Summon phonex : A largle burning bird that is a difference maker in the game unless u have weighs or pitlords apper on the corpse
16-Avatar of death : A dead dragon that ubisoft didnt bother to change the skin nor the history of spectrals , that is nearly impossible to kill lands on the corpse with a mighty shout
17-Your enemy only has black dragons , u kill them and as they are imune to magic, they dont raise back...
18-Firewall: U cast a firewall on the corpse that is enough powerfull to kill it again if its raised so your enemy wont bother raising it back
19- Wall of swords spell ( donno what its called) Cast that 3 swords on the corpse and the corpse is blocked
20- Summon cristal - the damned corpse is blocked again
Bonus!!!! Summon hive - See details in 20
20 is hard enough man
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ebbafan
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted May 14, 2008 05:10 PM |
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close enough!
some other ways include:
-instant gating onto enemy corpse
-summon hive onto enemy corpse
-arcane archer can knock enemy onto corpse
-blackbears can knock enemy onto corpse
-fear my roar/ fear attack creatures may send creatures running onto corpse
-harpooners can drag enemy onto corpse
-attacking an enemy goblin may send it landing onto the corpse
-if the enemy is zehir, same effect as naadir
-fleeing the scene of the battle/surrendering
-high level warlock can end battle with armageddon suicide(like you said earlier, finish the battle in some way)
etc., etc.
you're next gauldoth!
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Gauldoth
Adventuring Hero
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posted May 14, 2008 05:13 PM |
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Thanx man It was a good question and u ispired me for the next one 
4 WAYS TO DEFINETLY RESURRECT AN ALLY WITHOUT USING THE SPELL OF RESSURRECTION OR RAISE THE DEAD?
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Tygore
Hired Hero
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posted May 14, 2008 05:19 PM |
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Edited by Tygore at 17:24, 14 May 2008.
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Hmm... letīs see:
1. Ressurection of Archangels (as it doesnīt use mana itīs not a spell!)
2. Regeneration ability of Hydras
3. Scavenger ability of Pao-Kai
4. Regeneration Spell
5. Targeting Magnetic Golems with Direct damage spell
6. Master Gremlin Repair ability
7. Vampirism Spell
8. Drain Life ability of Vampires
9. Guardian Angel perk
10. Consume Artifact
11. Rune of Ressurect
I donīt know how you whether you meant ressurecting any creature or resurrecting a creature with the aid of hero/another creature. But I think my answers are enough 
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Gauldoth
Adventuring Hero
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posted May 14, 2008 05:23 PM |
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Quote:
Hmm... letīs see:
1. Ressurection of Archangels (as it doesnīt use mana itīs not a spell!)
2. Regeneration ability of Hydras
3. Scavenger ability of Pao-Kai
4. Regeneration Spell
5. Targeting Magnetic Golems with Direct damage spell
6. Master Gremlin Repair ability
7. Vampirism Spell
8. Drain Life ability of Vampires
9. Guardian Angel perk
10. Consume Artifact
11. Rune of Ressurect
U can add Lay hands + First aid , rune of ressurrection as well And I reaaaaaly donno why I asked for 4 Go on then its ur turn, and sorry for such a simple question
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ebbafan
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted May 14, 2008 05:23 PM |
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also the first aid tent if war machine level is high enough
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Tygore
Hired Hero
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posted May 14, 2008 05:30 PM |
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Thanks
All right, next question, actually two questions put in one:
a) what is the maximum bonus a creature can get to itīs hit points?
b) what is the maximum bonus a creature can get to itīs hit points in relation to itīs unmodified hitpoints?
Example: Using Vitality perk on Crossbowmen (10 HP)
answer for a) +2
answer for b) +20%
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Gauldoth
Adventuring Hero
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posted May 14, 2008 05:46 PM |
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For part a
Dragon set (+20 for tier 7)
ring of vitality x 2 ( +4 in total )
vitality skill ( + 2)
So it is +26 for any tier 7 , but im not sure if u can have 2 ring of vitalitys , if u cant m its + 24
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Gauldoth
Adventuring Hero
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posted May 14, 2008 05:50 PM |
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Quote:
Thanks
All right, next question, actually two questions put in one:
a) what is the maximum bonus a creature can get to itīs hit points?
b) what is the maximum bonus a creature can get to itīs hit points in relation to itīs unmodified hitpoints?
Example: Using Vitality perk on Crossbowmen (10 HP)
answer for a) +2
answer for b) +20%
I didnt get part b at all ?
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Gauldoth
Adventuring Hero
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posted May 14, 2008 05:52 PM |
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If its percentage u ask, u can use 2 rings of vitality and vitality on peasant , 3 original + 6 bonus , %200 max
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Tygore
Hired Hero
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posted May 14, 2008 05:56 PM |
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2 Rings of Vitality stack, but youīre not even close to the maximum
As for part b)
I just give you two more examples and I think you will see my point:
We apply the Ring of Vitality to
a) a peasant (basic hp: 3): bonus +2. Bonus in relation to the peasantīs unmodified hp: +66%
b) a paladin (basic hp: 100): bonus +2. Bonus in relation to the paladinīs unmodified hp: +2%
So: I want to know, how high that bonus (as a percentage) can be.
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