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Asheera
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posted August 01, 2008 02:12 PM |
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Quote: An important trick: Attacking a pinned piece. As it can't move away due to the pin, if you attack it, it must be defended. It's the best to attack with a pawn, so if the pinned piece is defended, you'll only lose a pawn.
I love to do this
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keldorn
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posted August 01, 2008 02:35 PM |
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Did you know these tricks before I told you?
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Asheera
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posted August 01, 2008 02:37 PM |
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The first one only. And I didn't even know it has a name
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TheDeath
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posted August 01, 2008 02:37 PM |
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I play chess occasionally and I learned some tricks, but keep it up (I didn't know the pawn tricks for example) I'm sure others will find them interesting
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keldorn
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posted August 01, 2008 02:44 PM |
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I'm glad to see you all enjoy my lessons. Next course tomorrow... I'm looking forward to see your reactions.
This time I decided not to write down everything, but let you guess. I'll make some positions and you'll have to decide what to move. After completing these exercises, I'll explain everything.
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Minion
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posted August 01, 2008 02:51 PM |
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TheDeath I also play occasionally, so I am not that good, but I can say I can play the game better than average Maybe we could take a game someday?
Nice work on the basics! Still waiting for the openings section to come
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Doomforge
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posted August 01, 2008 02:53 PM |
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Why is this thread rated 'average' lol
Chess rule. Hey, just teach the newbs the basic King's Gambit, they will dominate at newblevel, screw people who say King's Gambit is outdated and bad I've seen some pros using it lately, actually.
I used to own people over and over with it. Ok, it's not too good when your skill level is at least average, but people with average skill level certainly won't be interested in a chess course
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Asheera
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posted August 01, 2008 02:55 PM |
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Quote: Why is this thread rated 'average' lol
Well, since you're an Honorable Hero, can't you rate the thread?
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Doomforge
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posted August 01, 2008 02:59 PM |
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right, I can.
Oh, and even overrides the previous rating. Good.
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Minion
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posted August 01, 2008 03:03 PM |
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Quote: Why is this thread rated 'average' lol
Chess rule. Hey, just teach the newbs the basic King's Gambit, they will dominate at newblevel, screw people who say King's Gambit is outdated and bad I've seen some pros using it lately, actually.
I used to own people over and over with it. Ok, it's not too good when your skill level is at least average, but people with average skill level certainly won't be interested in a chess course
What is the trick here I guess that noobs accept the gambit easily, but I don't think it is a bad move in general, no?
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TheDeath
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posted August 01, 2008 03:05 PM |
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Quote: Maybe we could take a game someday?
You mean like the HC threads for Chess or?
(I don't have any chess software installed , just play it with friends)
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Minion
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posted August 01, 2008 03:10 PM |
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There are some sites where you can play, they are not as good as chess software natuarally.. Anyways, just a thought If interested, continue at HCM.
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Doomforge
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posted August 01, 2008 03:14 PM |
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Quote: What is the trick here I guess that noobs accept the gambit easily, but I don't think it is a bad move in general, no?
yes they accept the gambit, which puts you in a position where you have a clear advantage, unless your opponent knows how to counter it. But at newb-level, nobody does so, so you can easily defeat your friends.. over and over and over again
If they don't accept it, it puts them at even worse position.
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Minion
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posted August 01, 2008 03:22 PM |
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I see, what is the mistake that is made I have played Kings gambit very little... The advantage is not that apparent... Is it early Rook from h1? Hehe, I know the answer isn't that simple.. and I am not sure you want to share, but this is exactly what I am interested in
There must be a variety of mistakes black can make, because the game gets "intense" quite soon..
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Doomforge
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posted August 01, 2008 03:32 PM |
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Well, it's hard for me to explain. Let's say that against your common inexperienced chess player, you gain a great advantage in the center, which is often enough to dominate the game
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keldorn
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posted August 01, 2008 08:40 PM |
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Well, king's gambit is a risky opening. White sacrifices a pawn for central domination. But this is simply not enough against a pro player, and don't forget that you're a pawn down! Even if there are quite a lot variations for this opening (For example, I'm sure you haven't heard about Gianutio countergambit://Hein variation )
It might work against a less experienced opponent who doesn't know how to defend against the advantages of the gambit. But for a pro, it might be easy to grab and maintain the initiative. Besides, your kingside is weakened seriously by pushing the F-pawn 2 squares!
So this opening really is a gambit! You must know very well how to play with it. You need strategies, while defending against the plausible black kingside attacks.
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Doomforge
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posted August 02, 2008 08:20 AM |
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well, yes, as I said: excellent noobkilling strategy. A beginner will gladly accept the gambit and fall into your trap, which will end in total dominance. Beginners don't know how to counter that, trust me (I won the school cup just with King's Gambit over and over. Not that it was a high level tournament - lol, quite the contrary )
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keldorn
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posted August 02, 2008 09:39 AM |
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Hello.
As I promised, today I'll introduce you to 2 new tricks.
The fork: A piece attacks more than 1 enemy pieces, which is not protected or stronger than our attacker. Best is the royal fork: attack the queen with cheking the king. Usually we fork with a knight, but there are rook, queen, bishop, and even pawn forks!
This is a good weapon
And now your first chess riddle:
As you can see, white is in trouble here. The bishop is attacking the rook, and a pawn is forking two pieces. Furthermore, one of white's knight is pinned down to the queen. But white has a devastating move to equalize the position. It's white's turn. What would you play?
Hint: ??? (will be edited)
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Doomforge
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posted August 02, 2008 10:50 AM |
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May I join?
There are a couple of easy (little planning) moves possible.
The basic e4 x f6 +. Check, black has two ways of responding.
1) e7 x f6, which brings of course the response of g5 x f6. The blacks can still take your rook, bishop or knight, but that's it. Outcome: queen + knight vs. knight + bishop (black could take the knight instead, but it seems and inferior move to me). (or queen + knight + bishop + pawn vs. knight + rook). Not bad, you get 12 pawns vs 6, or 16 vs. 8, and it puts you in a good position.
2) g8 h8. Leads to many bad situations for black: f6 x d5, double pressure vs. queen and mid field dominance, pointless move overall and enables easy pressure against the king stuck in the corner (easy forks).
You can also try to endanger the queen by
g5 x f6
But it does not give instant effect
I also see a very interesting strategy here to perform, but it takes some prediction (at least 6+ moves ahead) and I won't tell what it is, don't wanna spoil the fun
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keldorn
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posted August 02, 2008 11:15 AM |
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Quote: The basic e4 x e6 +. Check, black has two ways of responding.
Do you mean e4xf6?
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