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TheDeath
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posted September 13, 2008 02:46 PM |
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Being married also means you have to stay faithful as well.
No it doesn't.
Yes it does 
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Aculias
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posted September 13, 2008 02:47 PM |
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So being married means you can cheat on each other.
I learn something everyday.
Thanks.
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posted September 13, 2008 02:48 PM |
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It's nice to see 3-word posts are being jumped on while posts that actually make sense but may be a bit wordy are ignored completely (I hold grudges).
And no, it doesn't.
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xerox
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posted September 13, 2008 03:20 PM |
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I dont understand why people get married... its expensive and useless (but I guess people do it because its fun, because it is when you get to eat cake).
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TheDeath
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posted September 13, 2008 03:22 PM |
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(but I guess people do it because its fun, because it is when you get to eat cake).
Fun is not the only thing in a person's life 
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posted September 13, 2008 04:17 PM |
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Fun is rather narrow. Why do people get married? Because it increases their utility.
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TheDeath
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posted September 13, 2008 04:24 PM |
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I'm glad not everyone thinks like that. Marriage is a form of commitment, of devoting your life. Of course, there will be materialistic people who have absolutely no respect or values for anything other than profit/utility and/or pleasure.
Take a trip into the past and see for yourself how our mentality has degenerated over the years
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posted September 13, 2008 04:29 PM |
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Marriage is indeed a form of commmitment and of devoting your life. That's why it increases one's utility. Utility does not merely come from the consumption of goods. (Although that's one definition of it, it's not the one I'm using.) Utility is a concept like happiness, but broader. For example, getting married increases your utility. (Assuming that you love the person you're getting married to.) So does giving to charity. But then so does buying a TV. (Of course, utility can't be quantified, so you can't really compare them.) So does getting a measles shot. So does paying your taxes. Paying your taxes may not make you particularly happy, yet it still increases your utility. Utility can come from many things, emotional and non-emotional. And it can't be quantified.
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TheDeath
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posted September 13, 2008 04:37 PM |
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mvass, it seems whatever discussion we have about a given word, you always reduce them to "benefit".
Utility/Benefit/Profit are the same in your book? I wonder.
and I think I read somewhere that using the "emotional benefits" to express "benefits" in general (which mostly concern material benefits) is childish, but it wasn't on the net. If I find it I'll link something to you
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posted September 13, 2008 05:08 PM |
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I think its just expensive and you got do lots of other fun things (like go to the zoo) instead.
Lol nothing happens when you get married, you can love your girlfriend without getting married and have a nice house by that wonderful lake, two children, a dog and cat etc.
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TheDeath
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posted September 13, 2008 05:16 PM |
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Marriage, not social marriage, is a form of commitment and devotion to her. It's more about respect than money or social stuff. I'm not talking about social marriage.
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posted September 13, 2008 05:24 PM |
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Marriage to me is a romantic event (I love romance ) and is something you should share with one you love very much.. 
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mvassilev
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posted September 13, 2008 06:31 PM |
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mvass, it seems whatever discussion we have about a given word, you always reduce them to "benefit".
Of course, because everything humans do benefits them in some way, emotional or non-emotional. If it didn't, then they wouldn't do it. Altruism is pleasurable to the giver, therefore it is an emotional benefit.
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Utility/Benefit/Profit are the same in your book?
Utility - Hard to define. Broad concept. Basically, it is anything that makes you better off in any way, or prevents you from being worse off. This can be emotional or non-emotional. By definition, everything humans do increases their utility in some form. Note that this does not necessarily mean that they are maximizing their utility - merely increasing it in some range of time. Indeed, it may decrease after that time.
Benefit - Generally more specific term than "utility". While utility is anything that makes you better off or prevents you from being worse off, benefit is only the first part - making you better off. But it can also be emotional or non-emotional.
Profit - Far more specific term than the above 2. Profit refers to receiving monetary benefits from selling something (goods or labor) for more than it is worth to you. (Of course, it can also exist in a barter society, in which case it isn't a monetary benefit, but is still similar.) While "benefit" in general can be emotional or non-emotional, "profit" refers to a very specific kind of benefit. While altruism may benefit you, it is unlikely to make you a profit. You can benefit from marrying someone, but that doesn't mean that you will profit from it.
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I think its just expensive and you got do lots of other fun things (like go to the zoo) instead.
You can't compare the two.
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posted September 13, 2008 06:32 PM |
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Marriage is a oath and announcement that you want to spend your life together. This is my view of marriage.
Marriages as in unions not based on love falls into the usually into the category of:
*Money
*Heir
*Other poltical stuff
Big companies have merged out and did it with marriage, clans have merged and traded blood for the sake of the heir.
Marriage is a complex word since it got 2 meanings, and i preffere to use it to reffere to the love one
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posted September 13, 2008 08:04 PM |
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Marriage is a complex word since it got 2 meanings, and i preffere to use it to reffere to the love one
the other isn't "marriage", it's "social marriage"
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posted September 13, 2008 08:09 PM |
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don't forget shotgun wedding lol
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OmegaDestroyer
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posted September 13, 2008 08:24 PM |
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Marriages as in unions not based on love falls into the usually into the category of:
*Money
*Heir
*Other poltical stuff
We have a winner.
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You drink my blood and drown
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Doomforge
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posted September 13, 2008 08:46 PM |
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be excited, be-be exicted.. 
Lol. Can't get that chant out of my head after someone says "we have a winner". Too much Requiem for a dream.
Anyways, another question since we're going a bit OT here..
what do you think of men/women that consider non-virgin ppl "spoiled goods" ?
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antipaladin
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posted September 13, 2008 08:58 PM |
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Being married also means you have to stay faithful as well.
if by being faithful you mean monogamy then i beg to differ.
If both sides apply Polygamy, and there is trust,and love,then sex does not have to be 1 on 1 merrid couples also involve in such,have lovers,and girlfriends,without lies,and no bounders,unlike other people who call this adultery or fornication.
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mvassilev
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posted September 13, 2008 09:26 PM |
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You're supposed to stay faithful to the person you're married to. If you're married to more than one person, and all of the people are consenting, then you're supposed to stay faithful to those people.
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