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posted March 28, 2009 11:13 AM

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posted March 28, 2009 11:28 AM

A reason to cry.
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posted March 29, 2009 11:46 AM

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sure I cry, last time was when my brother and I was beat up by some guys but I cry sometimes yes.

Wtf are you serious oO?! Dude don't get beat up! Either you steel yourself to the point that you'll give them such a beating that they'll forever take cover screaming when they hear your name, you negotiate or you run.
But don't get beaten up.


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I cry for one reason

1: i am a man
2: when i cry it means i am myself
3: If crying makes me myself then crying makes me a man. therefore crying is manly.

That was awesome.

Oh and yeah back to the topic. I don't cry. Crying is for the weak (I don't mean to sound really tough or cool or cold but that's just my opinion). What do you gain from crying?
All it does it to show people that you're sad/can't handle the situation you're in. And there is probably nothing I hate more than pity (be it goodwilled or not). People who cry don't have the mental strength to control their emotions. Which is weakness in my opinion.

Well I guess one can be more specific. Crying when it counts is weakness. Crying due to happyness etc. is ok and cool. But crying as in crying due to "helplessness" is something I don't do and hopefully will never do.
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posted March 29, 2009 11:49 AM

I kinda like to comfort a girl that cries, though
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posted March 29, 2009 11:57 AM

Different story entirely^^.

And yeah kinda makes you feel all benevolent and nice and stuff... except if you were the one that... nevermind.
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posted March 29, 2009 12:26 PM

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I kinda like to comfort a girl that cries, though

I don't know about you but it gets very tirsome after 3 times in umm 2 days? Cause you can't think of anything new to say to her.

Last time I cried was when I was 8yo and my first hamster died
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posted March 29, 2009 01:54 PM

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All it does it to show people that you're sad/can't handle the situation you're in.

What's wrong with people knowing you are sad? I'm not sure how you "handle the situation" when a relative dies or when you are held hostage at gunpoint.

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People who cry don't have the mental strength to control their emotions.

That's a weird twist of thought.  People who cry have emotions.  Not everyone is the terminator.

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posted March 29, 2009 02:55 PM

I'm not denying the fact that they have emotions. I simply say that they can't control them very well. And not everybody has to be the terminator I myself am not one.

And I think you missunderstood me. There is nothing wrong with the emotions themselves, like being sad. It's perfectly ok to be sad. The only part about it that I don't like is showing emotions (which is the same as crying).
In my opinion people should be strong. If life is hard crying will do nothing for you except show that you're incapable of dealing with the situation (as I already said).
Not crying however is proof of self controle. Apart from that it spares you the ammount of pity you get from people. As I said I hate pity. Therefore I hate people even more who cry to get attention and think of it as some kind of solution. It isn't. Life isn't nice. People will not always come to you and comfort you. You need to be strong.
And therefore I do not cry when it counts. I cried at my grandmothers funeral a while ago. And I will cry again if someone close to me (family,friend, fellow human, animal whatever I feel close to) dies I know that for sure. But that's about the only situation I'll cry in. I'd especially not cry if someone were to hold a gun to my head. Meaning I'd make a huge effort not to cry, saying it is one thing afterall.
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posted March 29, 2009 02:58 PM

What do you think about showing anger then? Anger is a secondary emotion. Most of the time it hides sadness. do you think it is weak for someone such as myself to be getting angry all the time? I just put myself as an example cos I get angry a lot.
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posted March 29, 2009 03:01 PM

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What do you think about showing anger then? Anger is a secondary emotion. Most of the time it hides sadness. do you think it is weak for someone such as myself to be getting angry all the time? I just put myself as an example cos I get angry a lot.
Yes.
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posted March 29, 2009 03:02 PM

Thanks for a very insightful answer...
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posted March 29, 2009 03:05 PM

Naturally it is. Any form of "over"reaction is weakness (please I don't say this as if it's a major fault personalitywise. Maybe "weakness" is a strong word for what I'm trying to express here). People should not lose their composure. Once you lose it you usually become vulnerable and irrational. That won't get you anywhere when it counts.
That doesn't mean that anger itself is a bad thing. Being angry from time to time is a good thing I believe since you finally get rid of all sorts of bottled up emotions and relieve stress in one form or another.
But as I already said about crying, most of the time geting worked up or angry will simply not get you anywhere and is just you (not say YOU) not being able to show restraint and keep yourself under controle and therefore weakness. It's very simple really.
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posted March 29, 2009 03:06 PM

I would separate anger and crying.  I'm surprised that you know your angry because you are sad.  That means you've been working on it.

I don't think 'weak' is the right word.

The issue with constantly displaying anger is that others are likely to have a negative reaction towards you.
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posted March 29, 2009 03:06 PM

That's so very nineteenth century of you, azagal ^^
(not saying it's a caveman mentality, but that's actually a sentiment EVERYONE from that period had) (Also, around that time Jung and Freud and such started their practice)

Anyway, hiding your emotions like that = bottling em up = not good for thine mental health
but anyay, I have no opinion whatsoever. I cry, I suppose. I try to avoid that, but sadness to me is more of a... Slow burn... It takes really long, it's really slow and it has no outbursts, it's like a numbness. It also sucks

But anyway, I agree that cryçing in action sequences sequences or during injuries is a bad idea.
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posted March 29, 2009 03:08 PM

Well you can say the same for crying then. Usually, when I do cry (it isn't often but still), it's just me letting out some things that have been causing me stress. Same with anger. If letting out all the bottled emotions with anger might be a good thing then that should also apply to sadness as well.

Crying is by no means a weak thing. In my opinion, letting it out is always a good thing. It's good to cry if I've been deressed for a while. It just feels like I'm releasing it all and it just feels great because so many things have been bottled up inside.


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posted March 29, 2009 03:09 PM

Let's all remember that TheGootch cried at the end of the LOTR movies.
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posted March 29, 2009 03:23 PM

Cry? I dried out all my tears years ago.
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posted March 29, 2009 03:37 PM

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In my opinion people should be strong. If life is hard crying will do nothing for you except show that you're incapable of dealing with the situation (as I already said).

You're sort of correct by saying crying serves little/no practical purpose.  However, some people just need the emotional release from life's many problems.  People react to stress, trauma, and sadness differently, so naturally, they may exhibit different behavior.  And, like in my case, some seemingly hardy individuals don't lose it until they're in a private place.

In some cultures, the showing of emotions carries a negative connotation.  I'm Asian, for example, and it's been a very Oriental tradition for males to "save face" and avoid getting into shameful situations.  The same goes for numerous other cultures, as well.  Nevertheless, the suppression of emotions can lead to problems in some people, they say.

I do agree with you about those people who seem to cry openly for attention or favors.  When someone stages a drama for selfish reasons, I just can't offer my sympathy.  In other situations, though, people can't always help it if they have to let everything out in front of their friends.  Appearing to have control over one's emotions may save a person's dignity in public, but the trouble that's digging deep inside needs to manifest itself sometime.  From the outside, all of this might seem excessively silly or pathetic, but it's a basic human condition.  Cheers to those who can pull through without any tears, but I'd let the others be if that's just how they are.  I'm saying this because I've seen a number individuals out there who target those who are very open with their emotions.

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posted March 29, 2009 04:35 PM
Edited by Azagal at 16:38, 29 Mar 2009.

Maybe I'm not expressing myself probably. While I'm saying that crying equals weakness I don't mean to say that it's a bad thing. It's ok for people to cry, just don't do it openly (as you just said botteling it up till you're home and then letting it out is not something I'd consider weakness).

While not Asian I've spent the last 9 years (out of 19) in Korea and Japan and it's probably one major reason for me to have this opinion.
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Appearing to have control over one's emotions may save a person's dignity in public, but the trouble that's digging deep inside needs to manifest itself sometime.

Exactly, except for the fact that I'd believe that every individual must be able to deal with problems. This may sound as something harsh/arrogant/naive/ridicolous/cold thing to say but I simply don't believe that there'll always be people there to help you.
If you have people that help you it's a wonderful thing but relying on it isn't too clever. Apart from that there are other ways of dealing with problems apart from crying. One could simple talk about it (which I also don't find too great because it's basically the same as crying except that you do it without the tears and sobbing but it's still a major improvement despite the fact that you may get just as much (or even more) pity than if you'd cry).

Apart from my asian influence it's probably me having to be an example often enough in my life, which makes me believe that one would have to be strong. People should try be in controle of themselves in my opinion and not take the easy way out by simply letting it go (crying is one such action).

It's always good to be able to help yourself before relying on others. I don't say this because I don't have friends I can trust or because I hate my fellow man but one should do it for one's own sake.

I don't believe that there a people who really "can't help it".I may be very well be wrong but I'm sure that they simply don't try hard enough to be strong.
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posted March 29, 2009 05:41 PM

You're so twisted it makes no sense...
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