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Corribus
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posted June 13, 2012 01:17 AM |
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I think it's great to discuss movies. Just if you are going to reveal any plot points, kindly write *SPOILERS* or something to that effect so those of us who haven't seen the movie can skip over.
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posted June 16, 2012 11:00 PM |
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I just watched 'Kingdom of Heaven' extended edition, one of my favorite movies (mostly for the setting and music). Though I found Orlando's character to be quite dull, and annoying, his actions would be 'good' or I'd accept them, if they were supported by a wise and thoughtful mind, which they are not, he seems largely ignorant, which is sad, the character had potential. (I'll go into further QQing detail if anyone wishes) The music and the other actors are the saving grace of this movie and are without equal, so it does go among my favorites.
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Corribus
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posted June 17, 2012 12:07 AM |
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I watched Coriolanus. The movie was fantastic, and Ralph Fiennes turned up an incredible performance. My chief gripe with it is the same I have for all Shakespearian plays-turned-movies that retain the original dialogue: the prose is beautiful but people don't speak that way any more. For me it's very hard to follow the nuances of the language and plot, particularly for plays with which I'm not very familiar (and Coriolanus is not a play I've ever read). In any artistic sense, I guess it would diminish it for the script to utilize modern english, but I think such movies would be far more entertaining and approachable if they did.
As a minor note, it's not quite clear to me why they opted to use a modern setting (though still retaining ancient placenames and people) rather than setting it in ancient Rome. There's a strange sort of anachronistic feel to the movie that just didn't quite sit right.
Still, if you can tolerate listening to Shakespearean dialogue, it's incredibly well done.
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posted June 17, 2012 03:31 AM |
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I hate Shakespeare so much.
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posted June 17, 2012 03:35 AM |
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I adore him, and his keen sense for human nature, and then being able to convey that through multiple plays, a genius.
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Corribus
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posted June 24, 2012 07:18 AM |
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Why do you do this to me, Hollywood? WHY?
I watched Prometheus today. It's a visually arresting film directed by one of my favorite directors. The first 60 minutes were fantastic, and then the movie topples under the weight of its absolutely terrible script. Horribly written dialogue, horribly written characters, a plot with too many holes to be considered thought-provoking, and plot elements made painfully predictable because almost everything is a direct ripoff of (ironically) Alien. Like the TV show Lost (written, perhaps not coincidentally, by the same person), it begins with a lot of intriguing high concept ideas and then devolves into inanity. It's a film that can't figure out quite what it's supposed to be and so does little well.
Sob. I had such high hopes.
Really, I wish they would just let the Alien franchise rest. After the laughable Alien Resurrection and two very tepid AVP films, I think it's time. From now on, I'm going to pretend they stopped these things after the much underrated Alien 3 and life a happy life.
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posted June 24, 2012 02:02 PM |
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Quote:
it begins with a lot of intriguing high concept ideas and then devolves into inanity.
Doesn't everything?
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posted June 24, 2012 10:59 PM |
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Just saw Brave. It was OK. It would have been better if an idiot couple hadn't brought their 3 year old who proceeded to talk and kick my chair the entire movie.
As to the plot and what not, it was certainly not one of Pixar's strongest showings. Then again, I still don't understand what is so great about Finding Nemo and the Toy Story series.
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posted June 26, 2012 01:14 AM |
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*spoilers*
I thought Prometheus was very interesting and I was engaged from beginning to end. I'd give it a 4 out of 5. The only notably annoying part of the movie was the over-the-top characters (which is a huge problem throughout film & literature in general imo). Writers have a tendency to make their character's personality traits unnecessary extreme. Like... as the strongest example in the movie: the red-head Scottish geologist. The movie would have been more enjoyable to watch if he didn't act like a 17-year-old with anger management issues. The crew was a team of high-profile pilots & scientists, but they didn't act the part imo.
I haven't watched the other Aliens movies in well over a decade and I'd have to re-watch them to really know the details of the plot, which might have made the movie more enjoyable for me because I wouldn't be able to point to any inconsistency. As far as plot holes: an unanswered question doesn't necessarily mean it's a plot hole.
I consider myself a pretty forgiving & adaptable viewer when it comes to allowing writers to do their own thing, but it's kind of frustrating how the film is directed by the same guy as the original Alien film, and yet he admits that the film isn't actually a literal prequel to the Alien movies, but it's just suppose to follow the same idea. I mean, if that's the case, I kind of wish they would have just made Prometheus a completely independent sci fi.
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Corribus
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posted June 27, 2012 04:58 AM |
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Edited by Corribus at 05:03, 27 Jun 2012.
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PROMETHEUS SPOILER ALERT
Alright, here are ten things that bothered me about Prometheus's screenplay.
(1) The first scene. I guess one might interpret it as the Space Jockey race seeding Earth with its DNA. Aside from the fact that this makes no scientific sense, it's an idea that isn't returned to at all and we are only left to guess at its relevance. Technically, we don't even know what planet the scene takes place on.
(2) The movie's premise is that ancient civilizations all around the world had the same "star map" that showed the movie's characters where to go to find the Space Jockeys. First - people in the southern hemisphere see different stars and constellations than we do in the north, so there's it's unlikely (though not impossible) all these civiliations saw the same star cluster. Never mind that. A better question is: how did all these civilizations know about this particular set of stars? Did the Space Jockeys show them or tell them? Not explained and makes no sense.
(3) You're a corporation spending a trillion dollars on a loony trip based on a crazy idea, and you only bring 13 people along, with no security force, and none of the people know each other or what they're doing there? I find that incredibly hard to believe.
(4) Most of the plot elements were a complete rip off of Alien. Consider: in both movies we have a company with a hidden agenda, a treacherous android that gets his head ripped off, a strong female antagonist surrounded my male cannon fodder, and crazy alien things that emerge from a room filled with egg-shaped objects. Surely they could have made it less predictable. I mean, from the outset we KNOW the corporation is up to no good, we KNOW the android is going to betray everyone, etc. God, throw me something new and unexpected.
(5) Speaking of treacherous androids - in this movie the android purposely infects several of the crew members with the alien substance. We are never told the motivation for this. Also, I'm supposed to believe the android learned the alien language and alphabet just from studying old earth cultures? Really?
(6) Right before the graphic birth scene, the female antagonist kicks the crap out of several crew members, runs away, and then puts herself in a "auto-surgeon pod" [that isn't calibrated for female patients... even though a good portion of the crew is female??? wtf?]. When she gets out, nobody mentions the fact that she just went berserk and beat up half the crew? Huh?
(7) The alien life cycle has no consistency with the Alien movies. The woman is infected and gives birth (essentially) to a face hugger, which then infects someone else, who gives birth to an alien. Not sure how any of that makes sense.
(8) If you're running and a giant torus is rolling toward you, why do you keep running in a straight line?
(9) The characters are mostly throwaways. No development at all. And Charlize Theron's character is even more roboting than the android.
(10) The protagonist is a female scientist who is also deeply religious. Not that I have any problem with that. In fact, a scientist battling to juggle science and faith would have made for an interesting character if the theme was explored well. Instead, what we get is something like this:
Scientist: I have this theory about aliens who had something to do with the founding of our species.
Other person: Really? That's an interesting theory. What leads you to make this conclusion?
Scientist: Because that's what I choose to believe.
Me: WTF? This is supposed to be a scientist who completely disregards the scientific method?
Ugh, the screenplay was so bad. Characters make stupid decisions even though they're all supposed to be brilliant scientists. The mythology makes no sense. And why the hell do you cast Guy Pierce in the role of an old man, making him wear very unconvincing makeup? Why not cast an old man?
*sigh*
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posted June 27, 2012 06:30 AM |
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There are movies where Charlize Theron doesn't act like an evil robot?
*more spoilers*
Btw, about the star chart on the cave paintings: I thought they said in the movie that the reason it was assumed that the drawing was directly given to the ancient cultures was because that star pattern wasn't visible from the Earth to the naked eye at all. Or at least that's what I thought they said.
About the religious tones in the movies: what might seem like shallow scripting I'm sure was really just a calculated effort from the writers of trying not to alienate (te he he) particular audiences from the movie, so instead they just intentionally keep things vague and kind of dumb.
And yeah, the crew of the Prometheus didn't act realistic imo. The only sensible person in the movie wasn't even a person. It was the friggin' android. Everybody else had mental issues. I guess if a lot of the plot was recycled from the old Alien movie than that could be a disappointment. Again, I don't really know anything about the first movie other than that there was a ship that an alien got on and everybody got torn apart other than the redhead, so I still thought Prometheus was really engaging to watch despite its shortcomings.
p.s. Predator still > Alien. Nothing is better than thrill-seeking extraterrestrials intentionally limiting their own weaponry and hunting lesser races for sport.
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posted June 27, 2012 06:46 AM |
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I think one of the cool parts about the movie is the fact that not much makes sense until you've thought about it for a while. If you read a bit about all the references and stuff it just comes together bit by bit.
SPOILER BELOW
Here's a thread where a guy goes deep into the movie. I only noticed a few of these references when watching the film.
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posted June 27, 2012 06:47 PM |
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*spoilers*
Well things do seem to come together a lot more now. I never even thought of there being a supernatural element to the movie. ^.^
My theory at the end of the movie was that the Space Jockeys(?) never intended to let the humans prosper to begin with, because the star chart pointed them towards the military installation moon from the very beginning. But I guess as it has been pointed out, that military installation was actually a greenhouse of sorts for seeding terraformed planets, and the xenomorphs only became the warped, twisted creatures after humanity betrayed the Space Jockeys.
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posted June 28, 2012 07:24 AM |
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The Amazing Spiderman
is going to flop.
bigtime
That's my prediction.
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posted June 28, 2012 02:40 PM |
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Agreed. A reboot wasn't needed and nothing will top Spiderman 2.
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posted June 28, 2012 03:02 PM |
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No way guys, the new Spiderman will be awesome and a reboot was very much necessary. Finally I can rejoice about never having to see Kirsten Dunst as Mary Jane ever again! 
Btw, have you see the new suit, it looks absolutely fabulous.
Also, The Lizard... 
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posted June 28, 2012 06:47 PM |
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Tried to rent Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows but the store wouldn't let me so I went with Captain America instead.
Seriously surprised they managed to make Captain America cool. I always found his suit so ridiculously patriotic but they really struck gold with the costume in this one, very nice balance between stylish and practical.
Also Hugo Weaving. Good film.
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posted June 28, 2012 06:56 PM |
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I'm going to be seeing the new Spiderman movie, because it has Rhys Ifans and Denis Leary in it . Plus, whether it deserved a reboot or not, who cares? It's your friendly neighborhood frickin' Spiderman. Never pass up a good thing.
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posted June 29, 2012 02:40 PM |
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Anyone seen Rampart with Woody Harrelson ? Good / bad ?
Just (re)saw Mr. Woodcock last night , funny as hell  I really like Billy Bob Thornton - He play's badass as well as comical roles, and I like that in an actor.
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posted June 30, 2012 09:45 PM |
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I'm watching some stupid movie called "Lord of the Rings". What's the deal with it?
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