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posted October 09, 2009 06:19 PM |
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Lol! What idiocy. He should have turned it down but his arrogance made him accept it.
his arrogance didn't make him do anything, common manners did. if he turned it down (like you've done with my multiple awards to you) he'd be called out on that, with people like you saying "Oh well then, obviously he's a heartless warmonger, Phar Phar!"
No you're absolutely wrong, it's not warmonger you're quoting, it's elodin. 
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posted October 09, 2009 06:26 PM |
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his arrogance didn't make him do anything, common manners did. if he turned it down (like you've done with my multiple awards to you) he'd be called out on that, with people like you saying "Oh well then, obviously he's a heartless warmonger, Phar Phar!"
Why, the Peace Prize has been turned down before by people who didn't feel they deserved it.
See: Lê Ðức Thọ
(heh, foreign characters screwed that up: his name was Le Duc Tho)
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posted October 09, 2009 06:40 PM |
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That dude rocks!
So he was hidden away during most of the entire Hitler area. 
They should have handed him a prize for declining the prize, or something like that.
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posted October 09, 2009 07:10 PM |
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Edited by Adrius at 19:11, 09 Oct 2009.
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Well, in one way this may be a good thing, now he's got some major pressure to actually succeed with something related to peace.
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posted October 09, 2009 09:32 PM |
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Second Corribus' first statement. From the news article:
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The deadline for nominations is Feb. 1, meaning the president was nominated after being in office for just 11 days.
Emphasis mine. 
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posted October 09, 2009 09:35 PM |
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Is there any Guiness world record for the best PR he could break?
I actually like Obama and his conception of worldwide politics, but there are so many people who really strive more. Chinese advocates, russian journalists, protectors of women's law in Saudi Arabia etc. Obama really does not need it, his shelf is already full of gadgets and the president of USA is the most powerful man in the world anyway.
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posted October 09, 2009 09:40 PM |
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That is very premature. I smell something fishy 
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posted October 09, 2009 10:34 PM |
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That is very premature. I smell something fishy
Yea, the Nobel society has a little problem that they should deal with.
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posted October 10, 2009 07:49 AM |
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I'm pretty sure all the americans who gave their comments here voted for Caine huh?
nah, I voted for 'bama and I'm still baffled by this.
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posted October 10, 2009 07:56 AM |
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Same. What exactly did Obama do to 'deserve' this? I am totally baffled. Yeah, I voted for him and think it is not near as bad as people seem to believe (but not the second coming either as some seem to believe).
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posted October 10, 2009 07:57 AM |
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*is also baffled*
Ok, now could someone please figure out why he deserves the prize?
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posted October 10, 2009 08:03 AM |
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BTW, Corrected the spelling of the OP.
Yeah, being the first black president of the United States should not be a qualifier. Of course I understand the catch 22. If he turns it down people will be "He is too good for the peace prize?!" or such.
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posted October 10, 2009 09:46 AM |
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I think, the interesting thing here isn't the fact that Obama got the price - who would you have nominated INSTEAD?
Obama obviously was nominated - and won - because of hat he PROMISED to do an to encourage him on his course to make the world a more peaceful place. He isn't the first politician awarded as an encouragement and he won't be the last.
The real eye-opener is, usually you critisize a winner of a price because you have someone else in mind who'd deserve it more. So, with Obama, where is that name? Who'd deserve it more? Who has made outstanding contributions for peace in the world? Your local chief of police?
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posted October 10, 2009 10:28 AM |
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If you look at the list of people the Nobel Prize committee has given a prize to, you will notice that there are a lot of people on it who didn't actually do anything. Furthermore, a lot of people who actually do things don't end up with a prize. Einstein himself was denied the prize for special and general relativity. (they eventually gave him one... but for a minor paper called the photoelectric effect.)
I call it the "Nobel Popularity Contest", because they give it to whoever they like the most.
Who are these Nobel Prize Commitee people anyway? Why should we care what they have to say?
If I ever win a Nobel Prize, I'm going to very publicly reject it and show those snowballs that the world doesn't revolve around them.
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posted October 10, 2009 10:36 AM |
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Unfortunately the list of nominees for said prize is not available, but I am sure that a number of people on that list would be ahead of Obama. Now don't get me wrong, he seems to be an international favorite (more so then a lot of presidents). Which is a good thing. However, I just think it way too soon in his term to get nominated, let alone win. It's politics, however. I may never understand politics.
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posted October 10, 2009 11:40 AM |
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Obama obviously was nominated - and won - because of hat he PROMISED to do an to encourage him on his course to make the world a more peaceful place. He isn't the first politician awarded as an encouragement and he won't be the last.
Then we agree that the Nobel Prize has lost it's purpose and has become a political tool, and as events have shown, an ineffective one at that.
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The real eye-opener is, usually you critisize a winner of a price because you have someone else in mind who'd deserve it more. So, with Obama, where is that name? Who'd deserve it more? Who has made outstanding contributions for peace in the world? Your local chief of police?
As far as politicians go, any one of them that has completed a term should come up higher on the list for consideration than him. That's the point: considering he hasn't done anything outstanding, he isn't an applicable candidate to begin with. Conventionally (not anymore), when you award somebody the Nobel Prize, it's because of a major accomplishment. What is going to be listed next to Obama? Being elected?
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posted October 10, 2009 12:01 PM |
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Blizzard, you miss the point - if you don't do anything you can't have done anything wrong or bad or - in this case - AGAINST peace or at least PROVEN that you've done nothing for peace.
On the other hand, if you've been in office a week or so and at least PROMISED to do something for peace, well...
The bottom line is that Obama - with a view on what actually happened in world politics - has justified his nomination just by establishing direct postal communication between Cuba and the US again. THAT's actually the sad thing - there isn't exactly a contest running worldwide for earning that prize. So you get the prize just for not making full use of the raw power you can unleash, but creating the impression of use it responsibly.
Obama getting the prize means, that in countries of the Near East, India/Pakistan, Korea, China/Formosa, Russia and their ex-Republics, the Balkans, Afghanistan and all other "crisis areas" nothing good happened.
And, Mytical, that "I'm sure there must be something who deserves it more" is just a stab into a very dark hole, if you don't know anyone yourself.
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posted October 10, 2009 12:12 PM |
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And you know the nominees and that nobody on the list is?
Listen I am not saying that eventually Obama will not merit a peace prize. I just think it is way to early to see if he does or not.
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posted October 10, 2009 01:16 PM |
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IMO I do not think he should have it, even though his ideals are some that I support.
But if you just listen to the man himself, he says directly that he does not deserve the prize! Therefor I do not think he should recieve it, the man says he dont want it
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posted October 10, 2009 01:18 PM |
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Well, who would YOU nominate? Your Grandma? There IS none. THAT is the sad thing here.
Iran? Uncompromising.
Korea? Well, there's family meetings between South and North now, but that has been done SOME years ago, so, no, nothing new there either.
China? Anything happening there you would offer a prize for? Anything in connection with the Dalai Lama? Or Formosa?
The Dalai Lama then? Well, no, he's a man of peace anyway - you might give him bonus mile awards currently, but nothing out of the ordinary either.
Russia, maybe? For their extremely peaceful attitide towards Georgia?
The Balkans?
Israel?
Maybe some minor country head to did well? Let's say the Polish government for DECLINING the Bush-US rocket base plans?
WHO?
Who did something ACTIVELY for peace anywhere in the world?
I mean, I don't say it's Obama who DESERVES the prize this year, but with no one there who DOES - as I said, establishing postal communication between Cuba and the US after such a long time ALONE is worth the thing.
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