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Jiriki9
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posted May 12, 2014 09:28 AM |
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Edited by Jiriki9 at 09:31, 12 May 2014.
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Nobility
Increases the weekly growth of creatures in a town the hero has been
assigned to (Normally, only 1 per hero).
Subskills:
-Fame (at the beginning of a week, a few core creatures of the heroes
faction will offer the hero to join him for free)
-Golden Tongue (Decreases the gold costs of creatures by a minor
percentual value)
-Heritage (The Hero gains a minor artifact when choosing this perk)
-Majestic Presence (At the start of battle, a small percentage of the
enemy army (affected by leadership?)will join the player's cause,
provided that the player already have creatures of the same faction in
the army)
one basic subskill as prerequesite
-Family Guard [Heritage] (When choosing this perk, immediately a stack of Elite units of the Faction offers the hero to join him/her. Their number depends on the nobility level.)
-Limelight [Fame] (When the hero enters a town for the first time in a week, he/she looses 25% of her total moving points. In return, a few Core units of the towns faction offer to join the hero. Additionally, the morale of the heroes army, and any units in the town, is raised by X. X is equal to the Heroes nobility level.)
-Majestic Deeds [Majestic Presence] (After a battle in which the enemy flees or capitulates, a number of creatures from the fleeing/Capitulating army will offer the hero to join his/her army.)
-Rightful Ruler [Golden Tongue] (Further decreases the gold cost when recruiting creatures of the same faction as the hero.)
with two basic subs as prereq
-Loyalist Following [Fame + Majestic Presence]
(At the start of a defensive siege or a defensive battle within one day range of a friendly town, a stack of Core units from the town's faction join the hero on the battlefield, being placed at a free space somewhere in the placing area.)
1. Which sub with Golden Tongue and Heritage as subskills?
Family Connections / Friends of the Family / Nepotism / better name by you (When buying artifacts, the hero gets a price reduction.) {Note: we can determine that reductions value later on} {Variant: Reduction also comes to work on Siege Weapons}
OR
Trainer / Natural Trainer / better name (When the hero is present in a town, the cost for upgrading creatures is decreased.) OR (The hero can upgrade his/her units outside of town, for twice the normal upgrade gold cost.) OR both effects
OR
a better idea by you
2. Which skill of these shall be in, requiring an advanced sub as prereq?
Choose 1-2
Family Pet / Guardian/Family <xyz> (xyz replaced by the heroes factions champion unit) / better name by you [Family Guard + Legend Nobility] (when choosing this sub, the hero immediately gains 1 champion unit of his/her faction)
OR
Shining Star / Grandeur / Grandious Feast / Decadence / better name [Limelight] (Active AM-ability. Usable once per week. When in a town, the hero can waste all its movement points for the day to raise some of the current population of X random unit buildings in the town. X is equal to the hero's nobility level.) {Variant: Also, for X days, the morale of any army defending this town is increased by 3}
OR
Majesty [Majestic Deeds + Grandmaster/Legend Nobility] (Reduces the growth of all units in any town of the same faction the hero belongs to that is not controlled by you.)
OR
Birthright [Rightful Ruler + Grandmaster Nobility] (The hero can pay for units belonging to his/her faction by paying with experience instead of gold. The hero cannot "level down" through this.) OR (The hero can use his active ability "birthright", making him functionally a unit recruitment building. The maximum population is equal to the growth, which is 50%/100% (for nobility level grandmaster/legend) of the unmodified growth of the unit. The unit is randomly determined every week.
3. Shall this skill be in and with which prereqs?
Royal / Steward / better name (Another town can be assigned to this hero (so he/she increases the growth in 2 towns)
No, this shall not be in!
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Yes [Master/Grandmaster/Legends Nobility+ Majestic Presence + Rightful Ruler]
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Yes [Master/Grandmaster/Legends Nobility + Rightful Ruler + Loyalist Following]
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Yes [Legends Nobility + Rightful Ruler]
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Yes [Master/Grandmaster/Legends Nobility + Rightful Ruler + Master Estates]
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Yes [Master/Grandmaster/Legends Nobility + Rightful Ruler + Respected/Good Repute/High Regard]
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Yes (prereqs determined later -> a Nobility sub which is not yet existant may be part of the prereqs)
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Sandman
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Fearsome Warrior
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posted May 12, 2014 06:43 PM |
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1. Family connections / mates rates
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Jiriki9
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Altar Dweller
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posted May 12, 2014 08:41 PM |
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1. Which skill of these shall be in, requiring an advanced sub as prereq?
Choose 1-2
Family Pet / Guardian/Family <xyz> (xyz replaced by the heroes factions champion unit) / better name by you [Family Guard + Legend Nobility] (when choosing this sub, the hero immediately gains 1 champion unit of his/her faction)
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Shining Star / Grandeur / Grandious Feast / Decadence / better name [Limelight] (Active AM-ability. Usable once per week. When in a town, the hero can waste all its movement points for the day to raise some of the current population of X random unit buildings in the town. X is equal to the hero's nobility level.) {Variant: Also, for X days, the morale of any army defending this town is increased by 3}
OR
Majesty [Majestic Deeds + Grandmaster/Legend Nobility] (Reduces the growth of all units in any town of the same faction the hero belongs to that is not controlled by you.)
OR
Birthright [Rightful Ruler + Grandmaster Nobility] (The hero can pay for units belonging to his/her faction by paying with experience instead of gold. The hero cannot "level down" through this.) OR (The hero can use his active ability "birthright", making him functionally a unit recruitment building. The maximum population is equal to the growth, which is 50%/100% (for nobility level grandmaster/legend) of the unmodified growth of the unit. The unit is randomly determined every week.
2. Shall this skill be in and with which prereqs?
Royal / Steward / better name (Another town can be assigned to this hero (so he/she increases the growth in 2 towns)
No, this shall not be in!
OR
Yes [Master/Grandmaster/Legends Nobility+ Majestic Presence + Rightful Ruler]
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Yes [Master/Grandmaster/Legends Nobility + Rightful Ruler + Loyalist Following]
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Yes [Legends Nobility + Rightful Ruler]
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Yes [Master/Grandmaster/Legends Nobility + Rightful Ruler + Master Estates]
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Yes [Master/Grandmaster/Legends Nobility + Rightful Ruler + Respected/Good Repute/High Regard]
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Yes (prereqs determined later -> a Nobility sub which is not yet existant may be part of the prereqs)
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted May 13, 2014 08:43 AM |
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Jiriki9
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Altar Dweller
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posted May 13, 2014 03:35 PM |
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Which skill of these shall be in, requiring an advanced sub as prereq?
Choose 1-2
Family Pet / Guardian/Family <xyz> (xyz replaced by the heroes factions champion unit) / better name by you [Family Guard + Legend Nobility] (when choosing this sub, the hero immediately gains 1 champion unit of his/her faction)
OR
Shining Star / Grandeur / Grandious Feast / Decadence / better name [Limelight] (Active AM-ability. Usable once per week. When in a town, the hero can waste all its movement points for the day to raise some of the current population of X random unit buildings in the town. X is equal to the hero's nobility level.) {Variant: Also, for X days, the morale of any army defending this town is increased by 3}
OR
Majesty [Majestic Deeds + Grandmaster/Legend Nobility] (Reduces the growth of all units in any town of the same faction the hero belongs to that is not controlled by you.)
OR
Birthright [Rightful Ruler + Grandmaster Nobility] (The hero can pay for units belonging to his/her faction by paying with experience instead of gold. The hero cannot "level down" through this.) OR (The hero can use his active ability "birthright", making him functionally a unit recruitment building. The maximum population is equal to the growth, which is 50%/100% (for nobility level grandmaster/legend) of the unmodified growth of the unit. The unit is randomly determined every week.
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Vindicator
Supreme Hero
Right Back Extraordinaire
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posted May 13, 2014 05:46 PM |
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Shining Star (without variant) & Birthright (1st option)
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Jiriki9
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Altar Dweller
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posted May 13, 2014 06:36 PM |
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1. One more with only Nobility-prereqs. Which of these?
Trainer / Natural Trainer / better name [Master Nobility + Golden Tongue + Loyalist Following] (When the hero is present in a town, the cost for upgrading creatures is decreased.) OR (The hero can upgrade his/her units outside of town, for twice the normal upgrade gold cost.) OR both effects
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Landlord / Duke(Duchess for heroines) / Count(Countess for heroines) / better name [Master/Grandmaster Nobility + Rightful Ruler] (The hero increases the growth of any dwellings in a range of 3 days' movement around him/her and his/her assigned town.) OR (The hero increases the growth of all dwellings on the AM that the heros owner controls and that are of the same faction as the hero.)
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<xyz> Banner [Master Nobility + Fame + Family Guard] (Exists in variants for each Core creature in game. Only creatures of the faction of the hero can be chosen. Any stack of the chosen creature in the heroes army growth by (10*X)% at the beginning of each week. X is equal to the hero's Nobility level.)
OR
better idea by you
On to the Cross-skillies now...
2. Which of these elemental-magic-based subskills shall be in?
Choos 0-2 of the following
Elemental Lord [Grandmaster Nobility + 3 Elemental Magic Schools on Master Level] (The growth of all Elementals is doubled on the whole map (only for the controller of the hero, of course).)
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Rule of Steel [Master Nobility + Master Metal Magic (+ Lore of Metallurgy?)] (Increases the growth of Metal based creatures and War Machines in the Town the hero is assigned to.) OR [Grandmaster Nobility + Grandmaster/Legend Metal Magic + Advanced Metal Magic Subskill] (Increases the growth of Metal-based creatures in all of your Towns and dwellings.)
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Rule of the Waves/Ocean/Sea [Master Nobility + Master Water Magic (+ Sea Magic?)] (Increases the growth of Water-based creatures and any ships in the Town the hero is assigned to.) OR [Grandmaster Nobility + Grandmaster/Legend Water Magic + Advanced Water Magic Subskill] (Increases the growth of Water-based creatures and any ships in all of your Towns and dwellings.)
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Rule of Flames/Ashes/Fire [Master Nobility + Master Fire Magic] (Increases the growth of Fire-based creatures and War Machines in the Town the hero is assigned to.) OR [Grandmaster Nobility + Grandmaster Fire Magic + Advanced FireMagic Subskill] (Increases the growth of fire-based creatures in all of your Towns and dwellings.)
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Rule of Frost/Winter [Master Nobility + Master Water Magic + Frost Magic] (Increases the growth of ice-based creatures and war machines in the Town the hero is assigned to.) OR [Grandmaster Nobility + Grandmaster Metal Magic + Advanced Metal Magic Subskill] (Increases the growth of ice-based creatures and war machines in all of your Towns and dwellings.)
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Rule of Frost/Winter [Master Nobility + Master Water Magic + Frost Magic] (Increases the growth of ice-based creatures and war machines in the Town the hero is assigned to.) OR [Grandmaster Nobility + Grandmaster Metal Magic + Advanced Metal Magic Subskill] (Increases the growth of ice-based creatures and war machines in all of your Towns and dwellings.)
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Rule of Leaves/Trees/Nature/the Forest [Master Nobility + Master Wood Magic + Soul of the Trees] (Increases the growth of wood&nature-based creatures and war machines in the Town the hero is assigned to.) OR [Grandmaster Nobility + Grandmaster/Legend Wood Magic + Advanced Metal Magic Subskill] (Increases the growth of wood-based creatures and war machines in all of your Towns and dwellings.)
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Rule of Stone/the Rocks [Master Nobility + Master Earth Magic + (+Stoen Forming?)] (Increases the growth of stone-based creatures and war machines in the Town the hero is assigned to.) OR [Grandmaster Nobility + Grandmaster Earth Magic + Advanced Earth Magic Subskill] (Increases the growth of stone-based creatures and war machines in all of your Towns and dwellings.)
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted May 14, 2014 10:19 AM |
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1. Trainer / Natural Trainer / better name
Inspiration to Aspiration?
The hero can upgrade his/her units outside of town, for twice the normal upgrade gold cost.
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Jiriki9
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Altar Dweller
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posted May 14, 2014 10:34 AM |
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Which of these elemental-magic-based subskills shall be in?
Choos 0-2 of the following
Elemental Lord [Grandmaster Nobility + 3 Elemental Magic Schools on Master Level] (The growth of all Elementals is doubled on the whole map (only for the controller of the hero, of course).)
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Rule of Steel [Master Nobility + Master Metal Magic (+ Lore of Metallurgy?)] (Increases the growth of Metal based creatures and War Machines in the Town the hero is assigned to.) OR [Grandmaster Nobility + Grandmaster/Legend Metal Magic + Advanced Metal Magic Subskill] (Increases the growth of Metal-based creatures in all of your Towns and dwellings.)
OR
Rule of the Waves/Ocean/Sea [Master Nobility + Master Water Magic (+ Sea Magic?)] (Increases the growth of Water-based creatures and any ships in the Town the hero is assigned to.) OR [Grandmaster Nobility + Grandmaster/Legend Water Magic + Advanced Water Magic Subskill] (Increases the growth of Water-based creatures and any ships in all of your Towns and dwellings.)
OR
Rule of Flames/Ashes/Fire [Master Nobility + Master Fire Magic] (Increases the growth of Fire-based creatures and War Machines in the Town the hero is assigned to.) OR [Grandmaster Nobility + Grandmaster Fire Magic + Advanced FireMagic Subskill] (Increases the growth of fire-based creatures in all of your Towns and dwellings.)
OR
Rule of Frost/Winter [Master Nobility + Master Water Magic + Frost Magic] (Increases the growth of ice-based creatures and war machines in the Town the hero is assigned to.) OR [Grandmaster Nobility + Grandmaster Metal Magic + Advanced Metal Magic Subskill] (Increases the growth of ice-based creatures and war machines in all of your Towns and dwellings.)
OR
Rule of Frost/Winter [Master Nobility + Master Water Magic + Frost Magic] (Increases the growth of ice-based creatures and war machines in the Town the hero is assigned to.) OR [Grandmaster Nobility + Grandmaster Metal Magic + Advanced Metal Magic Subskill] (Increases the growth of ice-based creatures and war machines in all of your Towns and dwellings.)
OR
Rule of Leaves/Trees/Nature/the Forest [Master Nobility + Master Wood Magic + Soul of the Trees] (Increases the growth of wood&nature-based creatures and war machines in the Town the hero is assigned to.) OR [Grandmaster Nobility + Grandmaster/Legend Wood Magic + Advanced Metal Magic Subskill] (Increases the growth of wood-based creatures and war machines in all of your Towns and dwellings.)
OR
Rule of Stone/the Rocks [Master Nobility + Master Earth Magic + (+Stoen Forming?)] (Increases the growth of stone-based creatures and war machines in the Town the hero is assigned to.) OR [Grandmaster Nobility + Grandmaster Earth Magic + Advanced Earth Magic Subskill] (Increases the growth of stone-based creatures and war machines in all of your Towns and dwellings.)
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Sandman
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Fearsome Warrior
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posted May 14, 2014 12:56 PM |
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Elemental lord and Rule of steel.
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Jiriki9
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Altar Dweller
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posted May 14, 2014 09:28 PM |
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1. Which variant for Rule of Steel?
[Master Nobility + Master Metal Magic (+ Lore of Metallurgy?)] (Increases the growth of Metal based creatures and War Machines in the Town the hero is assigned to.)
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[Grandmaster Nobility + Grandmaster/Legend Metal Magic + Advanced Metal Magic Subskill] (Increases the growth of Metal-based creatures in all of your Towns and dwellings.)
2. Which one of these shall be in?
Choose 0-3
NOTE: if you choose 2 or 3, there will DEFINITELY be no more nobility subskills with magic skills as prereq. if you choose 0, there will DEFINITELY be a subskill with Arcane Refinement as prereq.
Rule of Evil / Dark Lord(Lady for heroines) [Master/Grandmaster Nobility + Master/Grandmaster Dark Magic] (Increases the growth of all evil units in the city the Hero is assigned to) OR [Legend Nobility + Birthright + Legend Dark Magic + Advanced Dark magic Subskill](Increases the growth of all evil units in all Towns and Dwellings controlled by the player.)
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True Nobility / Noble Heart / better name by you [Master/Grandmaster Nobility + Master/Grandmaster Light Magic] (Increases the growth of all good units in the city the Hero is assigned to) OR [Legend Nobility + Birthright + Legend Dark Magic + Advanced Dark magic Subskill](Increases the growth of all good units in all Towns and Dwellings controlled by the player.)
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Balance of Power [Master Nobility + Master Light Magic + Master Dark Magic] (Increases the growth of all neutral units in the city the Hero is assigned to) OR [Legend Nobility + Birthright + Legend Dark Magic + Legend Light Magic (+Advanced Dark&Light Magic sub?)](Increases the growth of all neutral units in all Towns and Dwellings controlled by the player.)
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted May 15, 2014 11:53 AM |
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Jiriki9
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Altar Dweller
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posted May 15, 2014 03:15 PM |
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Which one of these shall be in?
Choose 0-3
NOTE: if you choose 2 or 3, there will DEFINITELY be no more nobility subskills with magic skills as prereq. if you choose 0, there will DEFINITELY be a subskill with Arcane Refinement as prereq.
Rule of Evil / Dark Lord(Lady for heroines) [Master/Grandmaster Nobility + Master/Grandmaster Dark Magic] (Increases the growth of all evil units in the city the Hero is assigned to) OR [Legend Nobility + Birthright + Legend Dark Magic + Advanced Dark magic Subskill](Increases the growth of all evil units in all Towns and Dwellings controlled by the player.)
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True Nobility / Noble Heart / better name by you [Master/Grandmaster Nobility + Master/Grandmaster Light Magic] (Increases the growth of all good units in the city the Hero is assigned to) OR [Legend Nobility + Birthright + Legend Dark Magic + Advanced Dark magic Subskill](Increases the growth of all good units in all Towns and Dwellings controlled by the player.)
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Balance of Power [Master Nobility + Master Light Magic + Master Dark Magic] (Increases the growth of all neutral units in the city the Hero is assigned to) OR [Legend Nobility + Birthright + Legend Dark Magic + Legend Light Magic (+Advanced Dark&Light Magic sub?)](Increases the growth of all neutral units in all Towns and Dwellings controlled by the player.)
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted May 16, 2014 12:10 PM |
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Balance of Power [Master Nobility + Master Light Magic + Master Dark Magic] (Increases the growth of all neutral units in the city the Hero is assigned to)
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Jiriki9
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Altar Dweller
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posted May 19, 2014 11:19 AM |
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Shall the following subskill be in?
RUle of Magic / better name by you (unfortunately, Magelord is allready a class) [Master Nobility + Master Arcane Refinement + 1 Magic School at Master Level] (All spellcasting units in the Town assigned to the hero have increased growth rates.)
Yes
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No
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Sandman
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Fearsome Warrior
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posted May 19, 2014 01:05 PM |
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Jiriki9
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Altar Dweller
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posted May 19, 2014 01:50 PM |
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I like that =)
question in between: Shall we continue with subs as before, doing all of one skill at once, or shall we change the way, doing the cross-subs later, so we can have them as prereqs as well?
contineu as before, finishing main skill by main skill
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change the ways, doing cross-skill-subs later
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Sandman
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Fearsome Warrior
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posted May 19, 2014 06:47 PM |
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Continue on the same way if you like, fine by me 
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Jiriki9
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Altar Dweller
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posted May 19, 2014 07:37 PM |
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Edited by Jiriki9 at 09:48, 21 May 2014.
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WHich of these shall be in?
Entice /better name [Grandmaster Nobility + Grandmaster Diplomacy + Defamation + Majestic Deeds] (Decreases the growth of any Core units that are available in the town assigned to the hero in all enemy towns by a bit. X/4 of the growth reduced this way are added as positive growth to the town assigned to the hero.)
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Bondslaves / Thralls [Master Nobility + Rightful Ruler + Master Estates + Real Estate] (In the town assigned to the hero a special building "<xyz>s Estate" (<xyz>=Hero Name) becomes available to build. This building can be switched on Taxation (granting a gold income bonus per day), Production (granting a faction-specific ressource per day) or Recruitment (increasing the next week-growth of one chosen Core-Unit dwelling by a specific small amount each day).)
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Coin Flow / Speed Recruitment / Enforced Recruitment [Master Nobility + Master Estates + Golden Tongeu + Barterer] (In the market of a town, the hero gains an option to pay gold to enhance the growth of any dwelling in the town. To enhance a dwellings population, the normal unit cost must be paid (so effectively, the units gained this way cost twice the normal price.))
EDIT: Noone willing to answer this? 
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted May 21, 2014 10:22 AM |
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Edited by Avirosb at 17:22, 21 May 2014.
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