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Lord_Immortal
Famous Hero
DoR Dev Team
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posted August 13, 2013 06:38 PM |
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kozelrus said:
Lord_Immortal said:
Btw, I play version 0.6 of the mod(can't download version 0.5c cos' it says it's only for premium accounts).
Yes, i terrified, and no one around like that and did not notice (
I have version 0.5, if you want, I can give.
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And where can I download 0.6? 
Please yes. Furthermore, post the link so anyone can have it. Simply ain't fair to Download with a premium account.
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DarkDXZ
Known Hero
Haiku sensei
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posted August 15, 2013 11:53 AM |
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Warmonger said:
New line-up from polish team!
Juggernauts (Beholder walkers) look badass, don't they? 
Are those...
MECHA GRIFFINS?
Why didn't anybody come up with that earlier, damnit?
Anyway... (I'm not dead yet, unlike the entirety of Altar of Wishes bar the creational game)
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"If I can't determine whether people are trolling or not within a moment's notice I will just start flailing with this chainaxe without any particular aim besides general slaughter." - Adrius
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Benkei
Tavern Dweller
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posted August 15, 2013 10:24 PM |
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This has probably been linked before, but damn, this looks good.
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWAqbIp9EuM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWAqbIp9EuM[/url]
I hope they just keep working on this build and stop switching creatures and ideas around, it already looks amazing. Juggernaut looks good aswell but I always thought of it more "hi-tech-like" than what they came up with, but im not complaining, the rest looks pretty great!
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Macron1
Supreme Hero
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posted August 15, 2013 11:01 PM |
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Benkei said:
This has probably been linked before, but damn, this looks good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWAqbIp9EuM
I hope they just keep working on this build and stop switching creatures and ideas around, it already looks amazing. Juggernaut looks good aswell but I always thought of it more "hi-tech-like" than what they came up with, but im not complaining, the rest looks pretty great!
What's wrong with switching creatures?
I already made two different factions from this polish project.
I wait for replacement for zombies, as it will be made.
Goblins will stay in Polish Forge. But I hope they will be replaced too, 2 line-ups are better then 1
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Vade_Parvis
Known Hero
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posted August 17, 2013 12:43 PM |
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Cybergriffins? And these people were laughing at our droid? 
Not bad, actually. Nice work
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Vade_Parvis
Known Hero
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posted August 17, 2013 12:51 PM |
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Why didn't anybody come up with that earlier, damnit?
An idea of such creatures once was offered by me for the Factory town, but found no support and was rejected. In any case, it was not the best idea.
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Macron1
Supreme Hero
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posted August 18, 2013 04:59 PM |
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Vade_Parvis said:
Cybergriffins? And these people were laughing at our droid?
Not bad, actually. Nice work
Your droid was laughed because it's too pathetic for level 6. It's too small, and rotating is nerves consuming.
Make it two hex big, and not rotating, and it will fit level 6.
The reason of cybergriffins and robobeholders is the same as minotaurs with jetpacks:
the feature of Forge throught that it converts usual units to their cyberform.
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Macron1
Supreme Hero
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posted August 18, 2013 06:41 PM |
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fred79 said:
why would they keep switching up the lineup?
Because they want to replace units drawn by other by units drawn by them.
Firethrower, goblin with blaster and naga-tank are made for HOTa Forge or by HOTA members (Naga is by Axolotl, GGoblin and Firethrower - by Alex-ander), so they don't want to be blamed in stealing (HOTA crew likes to talk about evil thieves using their material).
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Macron1
Supreme Hero
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posted August 18, 2013 08:38 PM |
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fred79 said:
@ macron: so, two seperate forge projects?
There are more Forges then two:-)
At least Ukrainian Forge is also released (Cyber Zombies are from here).
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted August 18, 2013 08:42 PM |
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macron, do you have links to all of the different forge downloads? or is it all available for download?
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Macron1
Supreme Hero
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posted August 18, 2013 09:02 PM |
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Edited by Macron1 at 21:03, 18 Aug 2013.
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fred79 said:
macron, do you have links to all of the different forge downloads? or is it all available for download?
Seems like Ukrainian Forge download:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/7le5w5ly2czcvna/forge.rar
Modern Forge is somewhere in it's theme
http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=33693&pagenumber=6
There are two early Polish Forges (not finished, Forgotten Forge but Zelevits and other polish Forge materials) also, in this or other Forge theme, I found them somewhere here.
In other polish forge materials there are some early polish units and combat heroes GIFs, and a set of TGAs for townscreen - on which this Polish Forge is based upon). There were new siege walls also, but they were not cutted to parts as needed.
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Vade_Parvis
Known Hero
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posted August 20, 2013 05:15 AM |
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Your droid was laughed because it's too pathetic for level 6. It's too small, and rotating is nerves consuming.
Make it two hex big, and not rotating, and it will fit level 6.
Fine. But why such a reaction was only here and on the acidcave.net and mainly from persons that related to the Polish Forge project team? In other places droid was appreciated mainly positive, and nowhere was such rampant and derisive criticism. It seems that the problem is not the droid.
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Firethrower, goblin with blaster and naga-tank are made for HOTa Forge or by HOTA members (Naga is by Axolotl, GGoblin and Firethrower - by Alex-ander), so they don't want to be blamed in stealing (HOTA crew likes to talk about evil thieves using their material).
Proofs, please.
Goblins and piros were handed to the Polish Forge project by Alex-ander as well as squires to the VCMI project.
Axolotl's Naga tanks are freely available and were originally created for free use in any mods/projects.
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Macron1
Supreme Hero
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posted August 20, 2013 07:45 AM |
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Edited by Macron1 at 07:45, 20 Aug 2013.
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[quote name=Vade_ParvisProofs, please.
Goblins and piros were handed to the Polish Forge project by Alex-ander as well as squires to the VCMI project.
Axolotl's Naga tanks are freely available and were originally created for free use in any mods/projects.
What proofs do you need?
The best proof is that polish modders are redrawing units. Why they needed it, if they were not warned?
So get proof, what HOTA member says about Polish Forge:
http://forum.df2.ru/index.php?s=&showtopic=22752&view=findpost&p=510981
"Не, ну если не хотите, то никто и не заставляет. Я вот знаю, что есть мегакрутые города Бастион, Кремль и еще куча таких же. Вот только я их в глаза не видел. А в это польское чудовище играл сегодня весь день. Все-таки есть разница между теми не самыми лучшими поделками, которые есть в настоящий момент, и теми великолепными проектами, которые мы увидим черт через знает сколько лет, потому что их создатели пытаются держать какую-то там марку."
TRANSLATION BY GOOGLE TRANSLATOR
"No, well, if you do not want, no one makes. I now know that there are megacool city's Bastion, the Kremlin and a bunch of the same. That's just me they have never seen. And I played in a Polish monster all day today. Still, there is a difference between those not the best crafts, which are at the moment, and those gorgeous designs that we see through hell knows how long, because their creators are trying to keep some sort of mark there.
http://forum.df2.ru/index.php?s=&showtopic=22752&view=findpost&p=510984
"Сделать, что ли, патчик, заменяющий чудо-юдо-юниты этого Форджа на более удобоваримые (в моём смысле, а вы думайте как хотите smile.gif )? Или всё равно экран города всё испортит и профита не будет? "
TRANSLATION
Maybe would do something, patches, replacing ugly units of the Forge on a more digestible (in my sense, but you want to think like smile.gif)? Or screen of the city will still broke all joy and the profit would not be?
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Vade_Parvis
Known Hero
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posted August 20, 2013 08:06 AM |
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What proofs do you need?
The best proof is that polish modders are redrawing units. Why they needed it, if they were not warned?
Because they have their own project and their own vision of what it should be. Previously, the Polish team lacked the technical capacity to implement their plans, but now the problem is solved and much of the borrowed graphics of the units are no longer needed.
In addition, according to what developers of the VCMI Forge said above, they do not plan to in the near future to replace the graphics of goblin created by Alexander and Don-ko — which also refutes your charges.
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[extensive quotations from the DF2 forum posts]
There was discussed the Modern Forge and the quality of its graphics. I’ll just leave this here:
http://i059.radikal.ru/1108/57/c9f4fec26a27.jpg
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Macron1
Supreme Hero
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posted August 20, 2013 08:28 AM |
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Edited by Macron1 at 08:33, 20 Aug 2013.
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Vade_Parvis said:
Quote:
[extensive quotations from the DF2 forum posts]
There was discussed the Modern Forge and the quality of its graphics
Don't lie.
I've citated topic about Polish Forge, not Modern Forge.
And what so bad about Modern Forge graphics? In my opinion, only 6-7 levels are not in HMM3 style and not very good.
But hey - they are painted from scratch. Do you have self-painted units by youself? Do you know that it's not easy to draw units without 3D?
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they do not plan to in the near future to replace the graphics of goblin
Do you not understand words "near future"?
II think they replace goblins in future. Because leaving them will give food for HOTA grunts.
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Vade_Parvis
Known Hero
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posted August 20, 2013 04:34 PM |
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Don't lie.
I've citated topic about Polish Forge, not Modern Forge.
Are not you ashamed to lie so blatantly? Not only given thee positions, but also the whole issue devoted to the Modern Forge:
http://forum.df2.ru/index.php?showtopic=22752
For reference: information of main Forges be found here and here.
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Do you have self-painted units by youself?
Yep (incomplete, since understanding the futility of this way came earlier). And some pixel-art. And the 3D battle machine for the HoMM. So what?
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Do you know that it's not easy to draw units without 3D?
This doesn't justify the hackwork. By the time long ago there was a huge amount of graphics that was ripped from other games.
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Macron1
Supreme Hero
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posted August 20, 2013 05:12 PM |
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Vade_Parvis said:
This doesn't justify the hackwork. By the time long ago there was a huge amount of graphics that was ripped from other games.
Maybe author doesn't wanted to use copyrighted material?
And what's problem? Just replace DEF, if you don't like it. Thanks to BanBreaker, we have new units.
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Vade_Parvis
Known Hero
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posted August 20, 2013 05:38 PM |
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Quote:
Maybe author doesn't wanted to use copyrighted material?
The seventh level is slightly penciled Dreadnought from WH40k with a homemade animation. Portraits of heroes are only borrowed from popular copyrighted artworks.
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Macron1
Supreme Hero
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posted August 20, 2013 05:42 PM |
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Vade_Parvis said:
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Maybe author doesn't wanted to use copyrighted material?
The seventh level is slightly penciled Dreadnought from WH40k with a homemade animation. Portraits of heroes are only borrowed from popular copyrighted artworks.
Louie de Funes resents then.
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Vade_Parvis
Known Hero
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posted August 20, 2013 07:08 PM |
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Do not try to re-divert the discussion to the side by attacking the HotA project.
You made the assumption that authors of the Modern Forge doesn't wanted to use copyrighted material. I refuted this assumption. That's all.
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