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War-overlord
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posted January 11, 2013 04:41 PM |
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Whereas I agree with blob that most of the "vault-buildings" in Heroes VI had too little in terms of rewards unless it happened to contain an artifact usefull to you.
I disagree with Xerox' and Forests suggestions. Yes themed "vault-buildings" would be nice, but they are more or less themed already. I certainly don't want them to reset every week and worst of all the proposed rewards are hardly usefull or very occasional.
The only thing that would add to the fun/use of a "vault-building" would be if they started gradually scaling upward in both garrison and reward after 3-5 weeks depending on the map.
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admira
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Famous Hero
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posted January 11, 2013 05:00 PM |
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why don't they just call it a Nether Dragon? it fits more. It seems the less purple one is the shadow Dragon, the wing is smaller and less ornaments (talking about the purple eye)
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Dave_Jame
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Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted January 11, 2013 05:14 PM |
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To tell te truth some of the Chashes in Heroes VI do grow in number with time.. but the loot does not..
@War
Every week is to much.. but a restar each month or 5 weeks would be OK
And Edit:
A special congratulation to Avirosb for making the MaM facebook frontpage....
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DoubleDeck
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posted January 11, 2013 05:36 PM |
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I don't find it surprising as the void storyline is central to H6 events. Or soon will be. Sandro has set things in motion 
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After Asha defeated Urgash, she was plagued by nightmares that Urgash cursed her with. Her children helped Asha to heal, as Shalassa, the Dragon of Water cleansed and purified her and Malassa, the Dragon of Darkness drained the nightmares out of her mind, after which they manifested as the Mother Namtaru.
The Necromancers of Heresh face a crisis that threatens their very existence as a magical disease is slowly destroying their Spider Goddess, the Mother Namtaru. The player will incarnate the vampire hero, Vein, a rogue Death Knight with a troubled past. After allying with a former mentor, Vein will discover the source of the disease is connected to the Dark Elves and the infamous Netherlord, Sandro. To thwart Sandro's plans, Vein will have to repair the corrupted memories of the Mother Namtaru and restore her godlike powers.
So at the end of Danse Macabre, Sandro killed the Dragonwraith (servant of Asha) and mentioned that there are other worlds beyond Asha and he can get to these by killing a God....this God must be Asha he is talking about and his path must lead through killing the Mother Namtaru, linked with the Dark Elves' Dragon God, Malassa, who helped cleanse the nigtmares....
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BlueLore
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posted January 11, 2013 06:28 PM |
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Personally, I hate the fact that we get yet another necropolis campaign.
Its almost like Ubi has a Necro-fetish
Just look at this
Heroes V - A full campaign and one of the bigest villains = Necromance Markal
Heroes V HoF - Surprisingly nothing (well except one scenario with Giovany)
Heroes V ToE - Again a full campaign with new character = Protagonist Arantir
Dark Messiah - Arantir shows up again, This time as the main antagonist.
Clash of Heroes - Again a full campaign for necropolis = Markal acts as a side-kick of the protagonist, a new villian Ludmila
Heroes VI - A full campaign, Ludmila acts as a side-kick, It is the faction with the most special dynasty heroes you can obtain.
Heroes VI DLC - One of two focused on necropolis. Adding a small campaign.
Heroes VI SoD - Again a full campaign is announced.
Duel of Champions - One of the main antagonist is again a necromancer.
So Ubi.. why the heck do you focus so much on those undead.....
well necro is the most evil themed faction after inferno,so it makes a good enemy,not to mention that it is a popular and iconic faction.
Also I don't think it gets such a special treatment in heroes V and VI.In heroes V,almost every faction got 2 campaigns,so that isn't that special.
In heroes VI we'll have to wait,I think the dlcs for the expansion will cover sanctuary and inferno(because heaven has already a small campaign in the form of the prologue itself)and further expansions will give other factions campaigns too,so necro getting one may not be something special at the end.
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Storm-Giant
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On the Other Side!
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posted January 11, 2013 07:00 PM |
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Now we have the artwork in High Resolution
As for creature banks, there should be a good variety of them, some grow every x time (4-6 weeks like someone said) and refilling after 1 month of it's clean, imo.
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Avonu
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Embracing light and darkness
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posted January 11, 2013 07:05 PM |
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Edited by Avonu at 19:56, 11 Jan 2013.
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@Avonu - as Storm Giant mentioned above:
Just read this
I know about that but...
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So at the end of Danse Macabre, Sandro killed the Dragonwraith (servant of Asha) and mentioned that there are other worlds beyond Asha and he can get to these by killing a God....this God must be Asha he is talking about and his path must lead through killing the Mother Namtaru, linked with the Dark Elves' Dragon God, Malassa, who helped cleanse the nigtmares....
...I think you missed few things:
Short story of Danse Macabre (for these who didn't play it or don't remember details):
Spoiler
Danse Macabre begins not long after Clash of Heroes events, when Sandro meets Markal, takes him as his apprenteace and tells one of Sandro's stories from past:
Prologue is about how Sandro was banished from Spider Cult and stripped from his artifacts by Merikh, 60 years before HVI events.
Next we skip to one year after HVI, when Sandro arrives to Bull Duchy to acquire Staff of Netherworld (to replece his previous staff).... and for one other reason.
He meets Lukretia, accused for murder of Bull duke and banished from royal court. With her help he humilitates her brother Giovanni (known from HV) and kill duke son and heir to the throne - Ovidio. During these events Sandro also visit grave of his sister - the tomb where Lukretia's great-grandmother - Alma - is buried.
Lukretia has no future in Holy Falcon Empire so she agrees to join with Sandro and becomes his apprentice. They travels to Shantari Ruins on southern-east cost of Seven Cities lands.
Staff of Netherworld is needed to unlock powers of Ring of Unrepentant and to access realm inside it. During Wars of the Elders priest of Malassa from Shantiri Empire hide Temple of Malassa inside the ring, so angels couldn't destroy it. Sandro needs to visit few power sources to channel their energy into Staff of Netherworld and to open portal inside the ring. While he was doing that, Merkith, sent by Belketh, is trying to stop him but at the end is turned into ghoul. Inside Ring of Unrepentant Sandro finds what he was searching all the time - Mask of the False Face, gift from Malassa to her human High Priest, so he can change his shape like Faceless can do.
Meanwhile Lukretia is attacked by Dragonwraith - the newest toy of Belketh. It is mindless creature but fully controled by his puppeteer - Belketh himself. She is mortally wounded and Belketh reveals to her, that Sandro was behind old Bull duke murder and framed her into his actions for solely puropse to has new apprentice.
Sandro of course defeats his old master puppet and confirs Belekth's words. Lukretia nevertheless is impressed by Sandro's actions and agrees to join him as undead (the other option is death  ).
Danse Macabre story ends here but Sandro has few more words for his new apprentice - about worlds beyond the Void (and thus not being created by Asha) and about how he used Mask of False face to found Order of Void and to change history around him.
So, after DM Sandro can now shapeshifts into anyone, so I think it is safe to assume, that Mother Namtaru was posioned not by Dark Elves but by someone, who may look like them.
You have hints about it in your link in Vein's campaign - "the disease is connected to the Dark Elves and the infamous Netherlord, Sandro. To thwart Sandro's plans...".
Mother Namtaru is aspect of Asha - aspect of her nightmares created by Urgash and separeted from Asha by Malassa, Sylanna and Shalassa. These nightmares took physical form of Mother Namtaru and she was sealed in cave on island on Jade Ocean. The Naga were pointed by all three dragon goddess to guard this cave and temple above it. But when Akasha removed Staff of Cleansing (his mind was corrupted by Mother Namtaru), necromacer Aquirre heard her voice and started expedition to free "avatar of Asha".
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War-overlord
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Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted January 11, 2013 07:12 PM |
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The only thing I have to add to that is that the apprectice Sandro lectures is heavily implied to be Markal.
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Dave_Jame
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posted January 11, 2013 08:19 PM |
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The only thing I have to add to that is that the apprectice Sandro lectures is heavily implied to be Markal.
By Heavily implied you mean "Directly said in the last sentence" (Just finished it)
@ Avonu,
I did not pay that much attention, but where is said that Alma is Sandro's sister?
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blob2
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Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted January 11, 2013 08:32 PM |
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I find it funny that the Necros listen to the voices of Mother Namtaru who was created from Ashas nightmares. So it's like their listening to a voice of a psychopath/maniac, while telling everyone that they are neutral
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War-overlord
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Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted January 11, 2013 08:52 PM |
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By Heavily implied you mean "Directly said in the last sentence"
I did not remember it being directly said. Only that the events of Clash of Heroes were heavily referenced.
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I did not pay that much attention, but where is said that Alma is Sandro's sister?
Graveyard scene. I believe Sandro speaks to her (grave) and calls her sis.
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Storm-Giant
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posted January 11, 2013 08:56 PM |
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It seems that Danse Macabre capaign had good depth, sounds interesting...thanks for sharing it! 
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JollyJoker
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posted January 11, 2013 09:09 PM |
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It IS explicitely said (that Markal is his apprentice).
I found that a pretty neat twist.
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Avonu
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Embracing light and darkness
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posted January 11, 2013 09:24 PM |
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Edited by Avonu at 21:32, 11 Jan 2013.
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I did not pay that much attention, but where is said that Alma is Sandro's sister?
This text is only in Tears Path quest.
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How many years have passed since the last time I came here? One hundred years? More? There's a tomb near la Segadora that has been waiting for my visit. It's long overdue.
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L :Ah. Here you are. What has drawn you to our family crypt?
S: Just an old ghost. Nothing really. I'm finished here. Let's move on.
L: Only my great-grandmother is buried here. Her name was Alma. Like... like... your raven...
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Avirosb
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No longer on vacation
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posted January 11, 2013 11:51 PM |
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A special congratulation to Avirosb for making the MaM facebook frontpage....
Ha ha, for real?!
Well, at least they can take a joke, bad as it may be.
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Storm-Giant
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posted January 11, 2013 11:53 PM |
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A special congratulation to Avirosb for making the MaM facebook frontpage....
Ha ha, for real?!
Well, at least they can take a joke, bad as it may be.
See by yourself 
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GunFred
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Sexy Manticore
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posted January 12, 2013 01:47 AM |
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Hahaha, that picture gave me a good laugh. Well done Avirosb. Wait, this means Ubi is watching us! 
I must quickly write a super long post with all my stupid ideas that would ruin the game for others while praying that they would read and care about my stupid ideas.
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xerox
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posted January 12, 2013 01:50 AM |
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Can insiders confirm if this is total BS or something to look into?
It's from Wikipedia.
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A standalone expansion, Shades of Darkness, is scheduled to be released on 28 February 2013. Its main protagonist will be the warlock Raelag, who first appeared in Heroes of Might and Magic V, and will feature a new faction called Dungeon led by the Dark Elves.[25] New additional content will also be available, such as about 20 new neutral creatures, 10 new buildings and three new artifact sets. There are also expected to be notable changes to the multiplayer wing, especially the way players connect to the Conflux and a redesigned Legacy weapons system.
I guess they might calculate 20 neutrals as 14 Dungeon creatures + bosses + neutrals.
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Storm-Giant
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posted January 12, 2013 02:01 AM |
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Seems too much changes for me to be real
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DoubleDeck
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posted January 12, 2013 07:04 AM |
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@Xerox - I mentioned this on previous page and people agree it is probably an error...
@Avonu - Good info on Sandro shapeshifting into Dark Elves to make it look like they are involved, but aren't they involved anyway through Malassa.....the dragon god responsible for channeling all the nightmares into Namtaru? Also, Sandro does mention at the end of DM that he wants to kill a God, that being Asha. Don't think I missed anything here?
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