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xerox
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posted December 25, 2013 07:31 PM |
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Zionism is Jewish nationalism which like all nationalism is stupid because of its innate collectivism and conformism.
smithey said:
Are you not familiar with "Sveriges muslimska råd" and that they deal with "inner" issues according to sharia laws ?
I follow Swedish politics very closely and I have NEVER heard of this organisation in the last years, despite the surge of Muslim immigrants from Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia and now Syria. Looking them up on Wikipedia, apparently in 2006, the leader of an organisation formely associated with them publically expressed his opinion for Muslims to have their own laws. It was opposed by a majority of his members. Again, Swedish muslims demanding sharia is nonexistent outside of a few, lone individuals.
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Do you know whats going on in Malmo ?
Did you notice you can hear allah ahbar prayer in Stockholm now ?
Have you noticed a few months ago how muslims marched in Stockholm beating the living crap out of your Swede brothers (unprovoked) for no reason ?
Have you noticed that you're considered the rape capital of the world ?
Ohh and this is the best, your gov' issued a statement - Asylum for all Syrians, which is just amazing considering the fact that muslim population has doubled in Sweden in the past decade and that you Swedes barely make one baby per family...
There are a lot of things going on in Malmö, positive and negative. What are you refering too?
Yes, the local police in the muncipality of Botkyrka gave a mosque clearance to play the Muslim prayer three minutes a week, on fridays. This followed the exact same regulation anybody else wanting to make noise has to get clearance for. It was a strictly judicial issue decided by the police, following secular legislation. Also "Swede brothers?". Swedish Muslims are Swedish.
Sweden has the second highest number of reported rapes in the world, according to a study. It says nothing about the background of the rapists, if that even matters. A crime doesn't become worse just because a Muslim is the offender. And yes, we are also giving all Syrian refugees asylum in the face of the mass killings there. More countries should do that aswell considering they're partly responsible for not stopping the conflict at an early stage.
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posted December 25, 2013 07:35 PM |
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kipshasz said:
Genocide is a purposefull extermination of people because of race/ethnicity/religion etc. So I do know what it is. but it can last for decades and centuries. So if the jews would wipe out plaestinians the same way Hitler tried and failed to exterminate jews themselves, wouldn't that be recognized, like you know... instantly? Now the people of Palestina is doomed to a slow and painful extermination that no one will give a damn snow about it.
How is it a purposefull extermination of people if there are only 500-600 casualties per year, and in an area where there is an ongoing conflict going on ?
How can you call it an extrmination when Palestinians have gone from 400.000 people (60 years ago) to 2.5 mil people today ? Im just curious how do you view something as an extermination when their numbers have been steadily growing ? Wouldnt that suggest the opposite of being exterminated ? Do you really think Israel is trying to exterminate Palestinians but that they keep failing that much ?
Dont understand the logic Kip, its 2013, do you know how easy it would be to kill off 50.000 arabs in Gaza strip via air strikes, come on man, you make no sense, slow genocide over 6 decades and the guys beeing extreminated multiply by 6 all while being exterminated by a far superior military force ??? 
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So yes, the invaded islamic countries solve some problems with violence. Gandhi's methods won't work on stupid bloodthirsty 'muricans & co. so we have suicide bombers running amok in Iraq and such. so yea. when USSR annexed the Baltics and other countries, guerilla fighters used the same snowing thing against soviet NKVD and their istrebiteli legioni, the so called defenders of the people. some rigged themselves with explosives and went to blow snow up. Another fun fact, the 'murica and NATO used the same techniques used by the Soviets in the recent middle east conflicts and the so called "war on terror".
It's called terrorism. by some. I call it defending your homeland by any means necesarry. As for the victims, You know the saying, "sacrifices must be made".
Im not even talking about "terrorism" Im saying the state of mind of an average muslim is "if it aint muslim, let it burn", when they dont like things they go out and riot in the streets all across Europe, World, they are not into compromising, they are into enforcing their life-style, dont like something, respond with violence...
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If they have issues within their country, let them snowing solve it themselves you bloody warmongering basterd sons of snows! If america wants war, and basically war is on what their whole snowing economy is based on, wage that war within your snowing borders!
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Also, I'd recommend reading the book called "One God, Three Truths". pretty good insight on the maze of these three religions.
I would, but books are not really my cup of tea 
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smithey
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posted December 25, 2013 07:44 PM |
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Xerox, from what I read 77% of the rapes are commited by immigrants in Sweden, but hey, its all good, you think your country is going in the right direction, Im not gonna argue with that. I think swedish people are tolerant while muslims are not and that will be your downfall, you rather go ignorance is bliss, so be it..
History teaches one thing - insert yourself within a state, grow and stay united, when you reach sufficient numbers take over the country... Israel came to be by that rule (as did many other countries worldwide) Sweden II might be on its way as well within 50-100 years... Just sayin
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xerox
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posted December 25, 2013 07:53 PM |
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Many of the Jews immigrating to Palestine specifically did that for the ideological purpose of essentially annexing the place and establish a Jewish state in its place. Muslims today aren't migrating to Europe because "they" (we're talking about an incredibly heterogenous group here, don't forget that) want to implement a Sharia state. They already have those, to varied extent, in the region that they are migrating from.
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posted December 25, 2013 08:11 PM |
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I'd like to see the official numbers on palestinian population growth.
Also, the answer is simple, because the jews would be condemned by the international community. so they build walls an worsen the palestinian living qualities wherever possible. palestina is just now a tiny bit more humane than Auschwitz.
Also, christians act the same snowing way. if they're not like us, lets kill them off. this sort of crap led the balkan muslims and christians to bite each others throats out. then 'murica bombed the snow out of them and "helped" them rebuild. there are still some warning signs about minefields in Balkans.
It's a clever thing once you think about it. lets provoke them into a war, then blame one side or something. there's always a snowing scapegoat. during the cold war it was the commies, now it's a few gruops of fanatic extremist muslims. you snowers provoked them into this crap. now pay the price. everytime some moron goes boom and takes several lives with him, everyone goes "AHH! ISLAM IS EVIL! KILL THEM ALL!"
That british soldier that got slaughtered in broad daylight, probably deserved it. that's what you get when you push people to extreme. They go nuts. deal with it.
Although I'm waiting more when those morons running 'murica and EU finally piss off Russia enough so they'll snap and bomb the snow out of everyone.
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smithey
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posted December 25, 2013 09:01 PM |
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xerox said:
Many of the Jews immigrating to Palestine specifically did that for the ideological purpose of essentially annexing the place and establish a Jewish state in its place. Muslims today aren't migrating to Europe because "they" (we're talking about an incredibly heterogenous group here, don't forget that) want to implement a Sharia state. They already have those, to varied extent, in the region that they are migrating from.
Albania, Kosovo, Bosnia... Muslim countries in Europe, they had no ideological purpose, they just came to be once their population became the majority, thats how things work and suddenly there are muslim countries in Europe for the first time in history...
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posted December 25, 2013 09:03 PM |
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smithey said:
Xerox, from what I read 77% of the rapes are commited by immigrants in Sweden, but hey, its all good, you think your country is going in the right direction, Im not gonna argue with that. I think swedish people are tolerant while muslims are not and that will be your downfall, you rather go ignorance is bliss, so be it..
History teaches one thing - insert yourself within a state, grow and stay united, when you reach sufficient numbers take over the country... Israel came to be by that rule (as did many other countries worldwide) Sweden II might be on its way as well within 50-100 years... Just sayin
As someone who lives close to Malmö, and visit the city frequently, I have to say you are completely wrong. Nothing is "going on" there, sure, you see muslims when you walk around on the streets, what's so wrong with that?
There are 3 700 churches in Sweden, but only 6 Mosques. Islam isn't "taking over" anything. We're letting people into our country. The only people who get to vote are registered Swedes, aka, anyone who lives here and is registered here on paper. No one is taking over anything in Sweden. If anything the number of muslims in Sweden (and Malmö especially) is far outnumbered by the number of people against letting them into the country.
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smithey
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posted December 25, 2013 09:17 PM |
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kipshasz said:
I'd like to see the official numbers on palestinian population growth.
Also, the answer is simple, because the jews would be condemned by the international community. so they build walls an worsen the palestinian living qualities wherever possible. palestina is just now a tiny bit more humane than Auschwitz.
Also, christians act the same snowing way. if they're not like us, lets kill them off. this sort of crap led the balkan muslims and christians to bite each others throats out. then 'murica bombed the snow out of them and "helped" them rebuild. there are still some warning signs about minefields in Balkans.
It's a clever thing once you think about it. lets provoke them into a war, then blame one side or something. there's always a snowing scapegoat. during the cold war it was the commies, now it's a few gruops of fanatic extremist muslims. you snowers provoked them into this crap. now pay the price. everytime some moron goes boom and takes several lives with him, everyone goes "AHH! ISLAM IS EVIL! KILL THEM ALL!"
That british soldier that got slaughtered in broad daylight, probably deserved it. that's what you get when you push people to extreme. They go nuts. deal with it.
Although I'm waiting more when those morons running 'murica and EU finally piss off Russia enough so they'll snap and bomb the snow out of everyone.
Numbers - Population
2,568,555 including East Jerusalem population in the West Bank, excluding Israeli settlers.
Population growth rate - 2.097%
Birth rate
24.56 births/1,000 population
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3.58 deaths/1,000 population
growing each year, kinda contradicts being exterminated and you alone are claiming they're not killing them coz they would get condemned by the whatever... so how is it a genocide (extermination) ? I do agree that Palestinians live in bad conditions but there is a huge difference between poor living conditions and genocide (persecution)
And you call Gaza a bit better than Auschwitz ? Come on man you're talking out of your ass, Palestinians are not dying of starvation, Palestinians are not being killed off systematically, Palestinians are not being experimented on nor are they living in camps and breaking stones all day long or whatever, Palestinians have internet and can fly to any country they want whenever they want to... how can you compare that to a death camp is beyond me
And soldier who got butchered proabably deserved it... I dont even know what to say about that, do you also think girls deserve to be raped for walking around in mini skirts ? Provoked or not, right or wrong, Im not even discussing that, Im just saying that Islam is a more agressive religion, they're less tolerant and less compromising than enyone else, within their countries and outside them.. And that statement has nothing to do with fighting back nor "terrorism", but everything to do with their state of mind whihc is more religion oriented IMO...
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kipshasz
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posted December 25, 2013 09:25 PM |
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suddenly there are muslim countries in Europe for the first time in history...
This sentence here proves your bloody ignorance.
Spain was ruled over by muslims once.
There were Islam worshippers living in Europe throughout ages.
Also, I noticed that this thread encourages religious discrimination. what happened to tolerance? oh, wait, some of you only tolerate perversions, my bad. ISLAM IS PURE EVIL, IT MUST BE VANQUISHED!
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smithey
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posted December 25, 2013 09:41 PM |
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kipshasz said:
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suddenly there are muslim countries in Europe for the first time in history...
This sentence here proves your bloody ignorance.
Spain was ruled over by muslims once.
There were Islam worshippers living in Europe throughout ages.
There are Muslim countries for the first time in Europe, in history !! Spain under Iberia, Balkan under ottomans isnt a muslim country but instead European countries under Muslim regime (conquered by an outside force), its not the same thing bro....
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Also, I noticed that this thread encourages religious discrimination. what happened to tolerance? oh, wait, some of you only tolerate perversions, my bad. ISLAM IS PURE EVIL, IT MUST BE VANQUISHED!
I claimed tolerance will be the downfall of Europe, Im far from being tolerant myself, however I find it rather ironic that you of all people talk about tolerance when you're a self-proclaimed.. I dont even know how to call it, you hate jews, you hate homosexuals, you hate the west, who arent you hating on ? But you're preaching tolerance, so thats cool
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posted December 26, 2013 12:06 AM |
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(for the sake of comparing - genocide - Turkey kills 1.000.000 kurds, Darfur genocide - 400.000 dead in 4 years)
I also don't know where you get your information from but Darfur is in Sudan, in Turkey there has been an on-going conflict in the Southern-Eastern border since the early 80's, in the 90's it turned into plain civil war, yet the number of dead are estimated as 4028 civilians, 7946 from Turkish military, police, and korucu (a type of village guard), and around 28.000 PKK members (the Kurdish side). And that's starting from the 80's... If you wish, add 5000 more for doubting the official numbers but it's nowhere near millions.
And in the Balkans it was the muslims that were being exterminated, that's why the NATO forces acted against the Serbian government not the other way around.
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posted December 26, 2013 12:32 AM |
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Kisphasz, I did a quick search on Lithuania and muslims. It returns that there are 3000 tatars, +/- 2000 other muslims. Also it returns that economical situations made that overall population drastically dropped while immigration is inexistent in the last 50 years.
So what we talk about here? Personally I think is not worth time to discuss Islam influence or push-over with people who have no clue how it looks like.
You don't know what is Islam nor had any conflicts with, obviously. I am happy for you. We will talk again when you will pass from 1/1000 muslims to 1/8 like in France or UK.
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smithey
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posted December 26, 2013 01:13 AM |
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artu said:
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(for the sake of comparing - genocide - Turkey kills 1.000.000 kurds, Darfur genocide - 400.000 dead in 4 years)
I also don't know where you get your information from but Darfur is in Sudan, in Turkey there has been an on-going conflict in the Southern-Eastern border since the early 80's, in the 90's it turned into plain civil war, yet the number of dead are estimated as 4028 civilians, 7946 from Turkish military, police, and korucu (a type of village guard), and around 28.000 PKK members (the Kurdish side). And that's starting from the 80's... If you wish, add 5000 more for doubting the official numbers but it's nowhere near millions.
And in the Balkans it was the muslims that were being exterminated, that's why the NATO forces acted against the Serbian government not the other way around.
Those were just examples of genocides, I havent said that Darfur has anything to do with Turkey, Darfur is still going on as we type. Regarding the Turkish one, I was referring to the WWI genocide (1915), have no idea why I've written down Kurds (it was a mistake) when I meant Armenians, from what I know it is estimated that the number of Armenians killed by the Ottoman empire is between 700k-1.5mil (so I said 1mil)... Was talking about that one, my bad.
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posted December 26, 2013 01:32 AM |
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I was just watching a documentary about switzerland and according to it, a noticeable part of the swiss population has a problem with... french immigration
the same way we have jobs "for arabs" or "romanians" or whatever in France, they have jobs "for frenchs"
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posted December 28, 2013 05:12 AM |
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posted December 28, 2013 06:23 AM |
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smithey said:
xerox said:
Many of the Jews immigrating to Palestine specifically did that for the ideological purpose of essentially annexing the place and establish a Jewish state in its place. Muslims today aren't migrating to Europe because "they" (we're talking about an incredibly heterogenous group here, don't forget that) want to implement a Sharia state. They already have those, to varied extent, in the region that they are migrating from.
Albania, Kosovo, Bosnia... Muslim countries in Europe, they had no ideological purpose, they just came to be once their population became the majority, thats how things work and suddenly there are muslim countries in Europe for the first time in history...
Yep,because we Albanians came from some magical fairy book, and stole the innocent cgristian lands...Its not like we were christians before or pagans... It's not like we posses our own language, and are indigenous in the Balkans. Its not like we have pride to or a tradition. We, in your narrow view are just immigrants
hello again, just happened to jump here and see what is happening with heroes community, let me say I am not pleased...
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Kosovo was not christian for 500 years. If you callin a bloody occupation and forced indoctrination , infecting a country by culture through spreading,you must be bloody delusional. That territory changed owners more than you can imagine.
Before you go and brand an entire ethnicity as immigrants, learn the facts.
PFF, and you say Muslim fanatics are the only problem. The other half is your European egos and ignorance.
Don't want immigrants? how about you stop producing them? Tell your neighbourly "christian" Putin and Obama to solve this issue.
Or how about not buying oil from the terror exporters of Saudi Arabia?
What goes around comes around...
You appear to be one of those I would consider to be religious nationalists. You are no better than political islamists. Some say, religion and politicsvgo hand in hand, iam not suprized.
You know, I wouldn't even bother to reply but I get extremely pissed off to be discriminated by ethnicity.
You know, Europe is becoming more into the monsters it fears and hates.
What a pity,what a shhame.
I am beginning to understand Enver Hoxha. He apparently knew what to expect from Europeans. Our communists weren't wrong after all...
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kipshasz
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posted December 28, 2013 11:46 AM |
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As I sated earlier in a post, which prolly got deleted, religion itself is not a problem. The people who are in over their heads is the problem. Who cares if your imaginary friend is Jesus, Allah, Buddha, Flying spagetti monster or spongebob?
After listening some people who've been to Balkans, mostly Bosnia, they said that both christian and muslims there live peacefully with one another, and are not at each other's throats like we're lead to believe.
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posted December 28, 2013 05:27 PM |
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seraphim said:
you say Muslim fanatics are the only problem. The other half is your European egos and ignorance.
In my eyes, the main problem is also a total "indifference" from the moderate Islam towards fanatics-let's remain polite and call it indifference-. When you have unreal situations like THIS, in which several muslims, in all impunity, show their destructive arrogance and goals, the "moderate" branch should give them some hard kicks and clearly cut the umbilical cord.
But no, they don't therefore they get generalized, but who's fault?
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smithey
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posted December 28, 2013 08:11 PM |
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Salamandre said:
seraphim said:
you say Muslim fanatics are the only problem. The other half is your European egos and ignorance.
In my eyes, the main problem is also a total "indifference" from the moderate Islam towards fanatics-let's remain polite and call it indifference-. When you have unreal situations like THIS, in which several muslims, in all impunity, show their destructive arrogance and goals, the "moderate" branch should give them some hard kicks and clearly cut the umbilical cord.
But no, they don't therefore they get generalized, but who's fault?
The one on the right is a man
Gotta love them ninjas and their logic, showing ones face is like being an ape, why move to England at all 
What blows my mind the most, is how can a woman who respects herself agree with ninja looks, which has been created only coz men couldnt succumb to their "rapey" state of mind...
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posted December 28, 2013 11:08 PM |
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Salamandre said:
seraphim said:
you say Muslim fanatics are the only problem. The other half is your European egos and ignorance.
In my eyes, the main problem is also a total "indifference" from the moderate Islam towards fanatics-let's remain polite and call it indifference-. When you have unreal situations like THIS, in which several muslims, in all impunity, show their destructive arrogance and goals, the "moderate" branch should give them some hard kicks and clearly cut the umbilical cord.
But no, they don't therefore they get generalized, but who's fault?
Well, you displayed it already. The us vs them mentality. You are dealing here with people from already extremist infested countries whose only education, or lack there of, has been their holy book.
Add with propaganda, the likes of smithey, plus racism:You get a closed indoctrinated individual. Well, no offense to smithey but he/she is the perfect example of European arrogance towards foreigners.
And as for the moderates, the Muslim moderates are not the way the west thinks they are. They don't necessarily disagree with their fanatical compadres,they would also rather deal with earning money then deal with ideological issues. Again, most Muslim immigrants that are extremists are not the scholarly, academic type. And if they are then they are the usual nut.
Whatever, point is, those guys who are by citizenship European should not be considered as European, not as immigrants. Maybe European countries should make an effort to control what type of people get to be religious shepherds, in this case imams and priests, becausebhate is being bred there.
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