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EnergyZ
EnergyZ


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posted August 03, 2015 06:48 PM

fuChris said:
Does this mean we'll only get 4 elementals this time instead of 7?
There probably exists some lore beind it why there are only 4 this time. Something like the Spider Elemental invited the Light, Dark, and Prime elementals to a high stake poker game that lasted for a 1000 years or something(the bets were obviously dragon crystal chips and even more spiders)


Should be in reverse. Seven elementals, while four spell schools.

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ThatRedSarah
ThatRedSarah


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posted August 03, 2015 06:51 PM

Storm-Giant said:
Shantiri Titans look great tho.


They are pretty nice... But do we know what the "shantiri" actually stands for? Why are there two kinds of titans and golems? ( since when have i been interested in the lore lol lol )

alexine said:
But yay demons ! only 2 units but good start nevertheless... hopefully they will join my stronghold or dungeon army few times at least


Its sure is a good start! Good luck attracting them to your cause btw why do you like demons so much? Is there a particular reason you like the inferno faction?

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alexine
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posted August 03, 2015 06:51 PM

Hey this is all ? Where is the phoenix
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EnergyZ
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posted August 03, 2015 06:53 PM

ThatRedSarah said:

They are pretty nice... But do we know what the "shantiri" actually stands for? Why are there two kinds of titans and golems? ( since when have i been interested in the lore lol lol )


It is this empire that existed a long time ago. Likely the explanation lies in MMX, which I haven't played yet.

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Dave_Jame
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posted August 03, 2015 06:54 PM

fuChris said:
Does this mean we'll only get 4 elementals this time instead of 7?
There probably exists some lore beind it why there are only 4 this time. Something like the Spider Elemental invited the Light, Dark, and Prime elementals to a high stake poker game that lasted for a 1000 years or something(the bets were obviously dragon crystal chips and even more spiders)


Since when does a game have to have 100% of its content.. if all elementals from all game would be taken there would be 12+ of them.

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alexine
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posted August 03, 2015 06:57 PM

ThatRedSarah said:

Its sure is a good start! Good luck attracting them to your cause btw why do you like demons so much? Is there a particular reason you like the inferno faction?


Well in games i always liked wild, chaotic beigns and demons fit this correctly. Untill deliver an alien-insectoid something faction (dungeon is close to aliens with the dark theme, thats why I like them too) inferno will remain my favourite

I also love academy, even though they are neither chaotic and wild, but there is something magical about them.. you know
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Hex
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posted August 03, 2015 06:58 PM

In the beta files there was also Mermaid but it's not here. Hmm...
Shantiri Titan has new model not recycled one like Shantiri Golem which looks like Academy Golem and Lava Elemental merged into one unit.

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The_green_drag
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posted August 03, 2015 07:00 PM

12 neutrals is a good number, even if half of them are reskinned or recycled. I am a bit disappointed that there is no manticore, Phoenix, or unicorn.

I also wonder if we will actually be able to recruit ALL of them from a specific adventure map building. I feel like this is them saying, "yea it's possible to recruit any of them from the adventure map... Each creature has a fair .05% to be recruited from the mercenary camp each week, and that's it"

I want specific buildings for gold dragons and demons..etc

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Kimarous
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posted August 03, 2015 07:01 PM

fuChris said:
Does this mean we'll only get 4 elementals this time instead of 7?
There probably exists some lore beind it why there are only 4 this time. Something like the Spider Elemental invited the Light, Dark, and Prime elementals to a high stake poker game that lasted for a 1000 years or something(the bets were obviously dragon crystal chips and even more spiders)

Seven? Where the heck are you getting a seventh elemental? Prime? There's never been a neutral Prime Elemental.

In any case, I'm rather happy we aren't getting Light and Dark Elementals, if mainly because I don't want another "Light vs Dark" conflict that dominated the H6 storyline. Most people think of the classical elements when thinking of elementals anyway.

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fuChris
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posted August 03, 2015 07:01 PM

Dave_Jame said:
Since when does a game have to have 100% of its content.. if all elementals from all game would be taken there would be 12+ of them.

It's just that it wouldn't mean much extra work to press Ctrl+C/Ctrl+V 3 extra times to make it happen. They are all just H6 copies either way aside from the water elemental which is a H4 copy.
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Kimarous
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posted August 03, 2015 07:05 PM

fuChris said:
Dave_Jame said:
Since when does a game have to have 100% of its content.. if all elementals from all game would be taken there would be 12+ of them.

It's just that it wouldn't mean much extra work to press Ctrl+C/Ctrl+V 3 extra times to make it happen. They are all just H6 copies either way aside from the water elemental which is a H4 copy.

*headdesk* OF COURSE IT IS!



Because EVERYTHING is a ripoff purely on account of vague similarities!

And people in NO WAY want similarities to the NWC games! NO SIREE!

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EnergyZ
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posted August 03, 2015 07:08 PM

Kimarous said:
fuChris said:
Does this mean we'll only get 4 elementals this time instead of 7?
There probably exists some lore beind it why there are only 4 this time. Something like the Spider Elemental invited the Light, Dark, and Prime elementals to a high stake poker game that lasted for a 1000 years or something(the bets were obviously dragon crystal chips and even more spiders)

Seven? Where the heck are you getting a seventh elemental? Prime? There's never been a neutral Prime Elemental.


Psychic/Magic elemental? Of course, it hasn't been seen since H3...

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The_Green_Drag
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posted August 03, 2015 07:08 PM

Hex said:
In the beta files there was also Mermaid but it's not here. Hmm...
Shantiri Titan has new model not recycled one like Shantiri Golem which looks like Academy Golem and Lava Elemental merged into one unit.


looks like a reskinned titan to me

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fuChris
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posted August 03, 2015 07:10 PM

Kimarous said:

Because EVERYTHING is a ripoff purely on account of vague similarities!

And people in NO WAY want similarities to the NWC games! NO SIREE!

What got your panties in a bunch. All I said is that they are copies not that they were ripoffs. A ripoff would actually mean there are atleast subtle changes made to make them different. These are almost exact copies.
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EnergyZ
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posted August 03, 2015 07:12 PM

fuChris said:

What got your panties in a bunch. All I said is that they are copies not that they were ripoffs. A ripoff would actually mean there are atleast subtle changes made to make them different. These are almost exact copies.


Didn't you see the spikes of the new water elemental? If that ain't subtle, then I don't know.

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Steyn
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posted August 03, 2015 07:14 PM

Is it me or does the water elemental resemble a lion?

The shantiri titan looks awesome, though I have to say the academy ones look stronger. The shantiri golem I don't like that much. I especially dislike the lego pieces on its shoulders.

There is indeed a lot of model recycling, but as it means we get more neutrals I don't really mind.
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fuChris
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posted August 03, 2015 07:14 PM

EnergyZ said:
Didn't you see the spikes of the new water elemental? If that ain't subtle, then I don't know.

I would have been extremely surprised if we got away with a creature reveal if it hadn't contained atleast some spikes.
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articun
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posted August 03, 2015 07:14 PM

Not having Phoenix, manticore, unicorn and the lest in game now gives me hope that it will be more possible to have them as alternatives to some units in factions like the Griffin is an alternative to Dire wolfs in some maps or even having the choice to choose between them in times to come. Maybe the Phoenix could replace the Treant in some maps

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ThatRedSarah
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posted August 03, 2015 07:17 PM
Edited by ThatRedSarah at 19:21, 03 Aug 2015.

EnergyZ said:
It is this empire that existed a long time ago. Likely the explanation lies in MMX, which I haven't played yet.


I see. The forgotten friends of the ancient wizards, eternally wandering the loveless planes of reality that their creators left behind thousands of years ago.


alexine said:
Well in games i always liked wild, chaotic beigns and demons fit this correctly. Untill deliver an alien-insectoid something faction (dungeon is close to aliens with the dark theme, thats why I like them too) inferno will remain my favourite


Wild and chaotic Well in that case i understand your choice completely. I like the Dungeon for similar reasons... High attack and low defense, add some offensive destruction spells and im ready to go But i do not like any insectoids thou those i leave completely to you

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Kimarous
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posted August 03, 2015 07:24 PM

fuChris said:
Kimarous said:
Because EVERYTHING is a ripoff purely on account of vague similarities!

And people in NO WAY want similarities to the NWC games! NO SIREE!

What got your panties in a bunch. All I said is that they are copies not that they were ripoffs. A ripoff would actually mean there are atleast subtle changes made to make them different. These are almost exact copies.



Troll, fool, or badly in need of prescription lenses, I don't care. I'm not wasting time on your bullsnow.

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