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Sleeping_Sun
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posted August 08, 2015 10:27 PM |
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I think they should have gone in this direction for a unit design of strider, instead of creating a pure humanoid:
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LizardWarrior
Honorable
Legendary Hero
the reckoning is at hand
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posted August 08, 2015 10:37 PM |
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Rakshasa92 said:
If there is one thing in this world I hate more than crappy HOMM games its Lovecraft, and the American obsession with that guy.
I don't agree. Lovecraft's idea of cosmic horror fits perfectly with the old heroes universe and combining it with a dark medieval fantasy is something that hasn't been overused like Tolkien. I'd love to see a lovecraftian faction, perhaps void necropolis, also even if ashan dungeon has some very vague lovecraft references, it's a real foul soup of cliches taken from WH, WoW and general high fantasy , so it doesn't even matter, it will look bad anyway.
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Rakshasa92
Supreme Hero
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posted August 08, 2015 10:38 PM |
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted August 08, 2015 10:50 PM |
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You forgot to add - IMO.
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted August 08, 2015 11:02 PM |
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Oh silly Avonu. Rakshasa only speaks facts 
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Rakshasa92
Supreme Hero
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posted August 08, 2015 11:21 PM |
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LizardWarrior said:
Rakshasa92 said:
If there is one thing in this world I hate more than crappy HOMM games its Lovecraft, and the American obsession with that guy.
I don't agree. Lovecraft's idea of cosmic horror fits perfectly with the old heroes universe and combining it with a dark medieval fantasy is something that hasn't been overused like Tolkien. I'd love to see a lovecraftian faction, perhaps void necropolis, also even if ashan dungeon has some very vague lovecraft references, it's a real foul soup of cliches taken from WH, WoW and general high fantasy , so it doesn't even matter, it will look bad anyway.
In my opinion this Science-fiction crap should stay out of the fantasy world, I love SF in its own right, but mixed with fantasy its unfair (minotaurs can't win against computers and guns) and stupid.
Lately more and more fantasy worlds are corrupted with this SF bullsnow, really a shame as fantasy doesn't need SF, robots or Lovecraft to be special.
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted August 08, 2015 11:22 PM |
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I don't see anything wrong in taking inspiration from other games. Of course, they should try to make as many interesting and new things, of course. It does feel a bit a lot of things have been inspired by other games or cultures, but isn't that part of the charm of it?
Though there is a difference between inspiration to make new unit and inspiration to make a rip-off, of course.
So why does this guy complain so much about art, in this tone that he does not like other titles, like Pokemon, The Legend of Zelda, D&D, Warcraft, Warhammer etc. We know these things happen to Ubi often that is not accidental, but why repeating such words if it won't change a thing? Just saying some things may not be that worth fighting for.
... unless Ubi gets kick in the head and releases the vampire and lich votes, of course.
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted August 08, 2015 11:22 PM |
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Rakshasa92 said:
In my opinion this Science-fiction crap should stay out of the fantasy world, I love SF in its own right, but mixed with fantasy its unfair (minotaurs can't win against computers and guns) and stupid.
Lately more and more fantasy worlds are corrupted with this SF bullsnow, really a shame as fantasy doesn't need SF, robots or Lovecraft to be special.
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"Details are everything."
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Rakshasa92
Supreme Hero
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posted August 08, 2015 11:27 PM |
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Avonu said:
Rakshasa92 said:
In my opinion this Science-fiction crap should stay out of the fantasy world, I love SF in its own right, but mixed with fantasy its unfair (minotaurs can't win against computers and guns) and stupid.
Lately more and more fantasy worlds are corrupted with this SF bullsnow, really a shame as fantasy doesn't need SF, robots or Lovecraft to be special.
Ugly, stupid art ain't gonna change my mind darling.
It only made it worse, a purple kitten with some overused skeleton on it fighting against He-Man and a starship trooper? Which insane mind created such piece of horror crap! He should gain the death penalty for that! :-p
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted August 08, 2015 11:29 PM |
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Kimarous said:
Your hipster ramblings are more trite than the things you complain about. We've heard it a million times before. 
He's not even a real hipster. There was a time he posted a list of more or less obscure creatures to prove how much he knew or whatever. I remember googling something like "Poor known mythic creatures" and the same list popping up lol
It's ok. Not everyone can pull the "Dimissive smart and smartass queen snow" good as me.
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted August 08, 2015 11:31 PM |
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Rakshasa92 said:
In my opinion this Science-fiction crap should stay out of the fantasy world, I love SF in its own right, but mixed with fantasy its unfair (minotaurs can't win against computers and guns) and stupid.
Lately more and more fantasy worlds are corrupted with this SF bullsnow, really a shame as fantasy doesn't need SF, robots or Lovecraft to be special.
Oy, your kind does not belong here. Sci-fi was the part what made the MM games in the first place. Even if sci-fi did have minimal elements in Heroes games, it is still no excuse to trash talk about that. It was Jon Van Caneghem's decision in the first place to make the Might & Magic franchise, combining things he liked most. And this is where we are with that.
This should sum up.
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Rakshasa92
Supreme Hero
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posted August 08, 2015 11:34 PM |
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Avonu said:
Rakshasa92 said:
My own HOMM7? When does that ever happen?
Rakshasa92 said:
Every freaking single mythological monster from my project suits Dungeon more than this robot-zelda-slenderman wannabe!
Rakshasa92 said:
that doesn't change the fact that HOMM7 is gonna suck cow balls.
If Heroes 7 will be bad, it won't be because of your problem with Dungeon creatures. There are far more important things in the game, which worry players.
That isn't a HOMM proposal, it was just to show that there are more than 500 monsters more interesting than that stupid robot-wannabe.
And the gameplay is just as bad as the creatures, probably.
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Rakshasa92
Supreme Hero
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posted August 08, 2015 11:44 PM |
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EnergyZ said:
Rakshasa92 said:
In my opinion this Science-fiction crap should stay out of the fantasy world, I love SF in its own right, but mixed with fantasy its unfair (minotaurs can't win against computers and guns) and stupid.
Lately more and more fantasy worlds are corrupted with this SF bullsnow, really a shame as fantasy doesn't need SF, robots or Lovecraft to be special.
Oy, your kind does not belong here. Sci-fi was the part what made the MM games in the first place. Even if sci-fi did have minimal elements in Heroes games, it is still no excuse to trash talk about that. It was Jon Van Caneghem's decision in the first place to make the Might & Magic franchise, combining things he liked most. And this is where we are with that.
This should sum up.
Ah that's why all the people send killer-letters to 3DO when they wanted to do the forge town? I guess i'm not the only SF + Fantasy hater.
HOMM3 had otherwise NOTHING to do with SF. Darling.
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted August 08, 2015 11:51 PM |
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Rakshasa92 said:
EnergyZ said:
Rakshasa92 said:
In my opinion this Science-fiction crap should stay out of the fantasy world, I love SF in its own right, but mixed with fantasy its unfair (minotaurs can't win against computers and guns) and stupid.
Lately more and more fantasy worlds are corrupted with this SF bullsnow, really a shame as fantasy doesn't need SF, robots or Lovecraft to be special.
Oy, your kind does not belong here. Sci-fi was the part what made the MM games in the first place. Even if sci-fi did have minimal elements in Heroes games, it is still no excuse to trash talk about that. It was Jon Van Caneghem's decision in the first place to make the Might & Magic franchise, combining things he liked most. And this is where we are with that.
This should sum up.
Ah that's why all the people send killer-letters to 3DO when they wanted to do the forge town? I guess i'm not the only SF + Fantasy hater.
HOMM3 had otherwise NOTHING to do with SF. Darling.
Neither did I say that H3 had nothing with sci-fi. Although one could imply that, since kreegans were there.
Still, that was the attempt. A bit rushed in to make the entire sci-fi faction, but was possible. Imagine if they ignored those posts, how things could've turned out.
So no, I claim that without sci-fi part, we wouldn't have Heroes as they are today.
And why do you call everyone Darling? It is annoying. Not only that, but you are starting to antagonize yourself with everyone around here with these tones.
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Rakshasa92
Supreme Hero
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posted August 08, 2015 11:53 PM |
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EnergyZ said:
Rakshasa92 said:
EnergyZ said:
Rakshasa92 said:
In my opinion this Science-fiction crap should stay out of the fantasy world, I love SF in its own right, but mixed with fantasy its unfair (minotaurs can't win against computers and guns) and stupid.
Lately more and more fantasy worlds are corrupted with this SF bullsnow, really a shame as fantasy doesn't need SF, robots or Lovecraft to be special.
Oy, your kind does not belong here. Sci-fi was the part what made the MM games in the first place. Even if sci-fi did have minimal elements in Heroes games, it is still no excuse to trash talk about that. It was Jon Van Caneghem's decision in the first place to make the Might & Magic franchise, combining things he liked most. And this is where we are with that.
This should sum up.
Ah that's why all the people send killer-letters to 3DO when they wanted to do the forge town? I guess i'm not the only SF + Fantasy hater.
HOMM3 had otherwise NOTHING to do with SF. Darling.
Neither did I say that H3 had nothing with sci-fi. Although one could imply that, since kreegans were there.
Still, that was the attempt. A bit rushed in to make the entire sci-fi faction, but was possible. Imagine if they ignored those posts, how things could've turned out.
So no, I claim that without sci-fi part, we wouldn't have Heroes as they are today.
And why do you call everyone Darling? It is annoying. Not only that, but you are starting to antagonize yourself with everyone around here with these tones.
I call people darling, because that annoys them, and they are lower life forms, so they should be annoyed by something so perfect, beautiful and famous.
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted August 08, 2015 11:56 PM |
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High tech stuff does not equal Sci-fi
We've been over this.
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted August 09, 2015 12:07 AM |
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Rakshasa, I don't really see you contributing anything constructive to the discussion, neither when it comes to your post content nor your attitude. Please keep to discussing the game instead of who's superior to who.
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted August 09, 2015 12:23 AM |
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Gryphs said:
No, but in Might and Magic it is Sci-Fi.
that's really cool. I just doubt Rak is talking about "sci-fi" as much as he's talking about High-tech stuff
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted August 09, 2015 12:26 AM |
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Kimarous
Supreme Hero
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posted August 09, 2015 12:56 AM |
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Stevie said:
Sci-fi is implicitly high tech. High tech is not always sci-fi.
M&M was sci-fi.
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Likewise, any sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology.
Honestly, I think it's splitting hairs to argue about definitions of fantasy and sci-fi, especially since the two easily intersect. Star Wars is primarily tech-based, but also has mystical elements like the Force. The Elder Scrolls universe is primarily fantasy, but also has lost Dwemer technology. Some are like the Sacred universe, where elements like T-Energy are unclear on whether they're straight-up science or magitech.
But I'm just blathering on about semantics at this point.
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