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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted October 24, 2014 02:02 PM |
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blob2 said:
Ubi's policy about budgeting etc is a different matter... come to think of it, this could be a situation in which Ubi is "forcing" Limbic into activity saying something in the lines of "we announced the game (oh look s*it happened) and fans are snowing for info... do something!". That's why guys at Limbic are salvaging whatever they can get their hands on and are putting it on the site/forums, even if this info lacks in substance.
That would assume that the community devs are from Limbic and not from Ubisoft. I however have the feeling that they are from Ubi.
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted October 24, 2014 02:06 PM |
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Maybe it's just me, but Ubi-Nox screams Ubisoft 
And Kimmundi said he was from DoC = Ubisoft, so yeah.
But I find important to remark blob2 words, game's still at an 'early development phase', we are like 1 year away from the release, a lot of things can change. We should get more juicy information next year tho.
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dark-whisperer
Famous Hero
Darkness feels no mercy
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posted October 24, 2014 03:21 PM |
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This just shows that people can complain about everything.
There is almost daily update of the site for 2 months now. We could get information in big chunks with periods of silence but I personally prefer to look at the site every day to check is there something new.
For the first time we have some influence of the development. And all this in such an early stage.
There has never been more communication between developers and community.
And what is so bad about UBI? They made second best heroes in series and they said they are returning to roots in new heroes. So far everything looks good (except town screens but I can live with what we saw), there is flow of information everything is unfolding right before our eyes.
I fail to see what is UBI doing wrong here and why are some people claiming that this is death of franchise.
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted October 24, 2014 03:25 PM |
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dark-whisperer said:
And what is so bad about UBI? They made second best heroes in series
It is not Ubisoft who created Heroes 3.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted October 24, 2014 03:29 PM |
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dark-whisperer said:
And what is so bad about UBI? They made second best heroes in series and they said they are returning to roots in new heroes.
I fail to see what is UBI doing wrong here and why are some people claiming that this is death of franchise.
Well are non-random skill system, no mvt penalty while boarding/landing on boats, area of controls, 7 schools of magic, 3 tier system, universal town teleportation, race-themed factions and I'm missing some returning to the franchise's roots ? I don't think so.
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted October 24, 2014 03:32 PM |
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Galaad said:
no mvt penalty while boarding/landing on boats, universal town teleportation,
Did I miss somethig? where are these features mentionedd..
And some things of those you mmentioned are a good change, if done well. Some are not.
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted October 24, 2014 03:35 PM |
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Edited by Avonu at 15:37, 24 Oct 2014.
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Dave_Jame said:
Galaad said:
no mvt penalty while boarding/landing on boats, universal town teleportation,
Did I miss somethig? where are these features mentionedd..
And some things of those you mmentioned are a good change, if done well. Some are not.
You saw Academy and Haven town screens, didn't you? There are town portals buildings in both of them, so teleportation system from HoMM6 will be on.
And no, H6 teleport wasn't a good change. Same with H5's one.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted October 24, 2014 03:39 PM |
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Edited by Galaad at 15:45, 24 Oct 2014.
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Dave_Jame said:
Galaad said:
no mvt penalty while boarding/landing on boats, universal town teleportation,
Did I miss somethig? where are these features mentionedd..
We could see that on the gameplay demo from IGN.
Even though there has been a poll about it here, there has been no confirmation or insight of any kind regarding the matter from developers.
As for the town teleportation Avonu answered you.
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted October 24, 2014 03:49 PM |
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dark-whisperer said:
I fail to see what is UBI doing wrong here and why are some people claiming that this is death of franchise.
Announcing dat game way too early.
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted October 24, 2014 03:52 PM |
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Galaad said:
We could see that on the gameplay demo from IGN.
Even though there has been a poll about it here, there has been no confirmation or insight of any kind regarding the matter from developers.
As for the town teleportation Avonu answered you.
If I remember correctly.. I'm sure I do.. That was, as well as other parts of the demo, a scripted sequence. And it was not until the entered the town that the player gain controle.
As far as the teleports.. This might be true.. But I hope they will be treated differently then they were in H6, as we know that the forts are treated differently.
@ Avonu: I never said that that feature was good. I even think it was one of the core problems of H6. I had other on my mind that were in that list
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted October 24, 2014 04:11 PM |
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Dave_Jame said:
If I remember correctly.. I'm sure I do.. That was, as well as other parts of the demo, a scripted sequence. And it was not until the entered the town that the player gain controle.
Oh I watched it again and you might be right ! However, as this was a new feature introduced in H6, I still wonder if the developers decided to keep it or not.
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dark-whisperer
Famous Hero
Darkness feels no mercy
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posted October 24, 2014 04:55 PM |
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Back to the roots doesn't mean exact copy. Its obvious that these heroes will be in group with H1,2,3 and 5. Some things have to change and its good. Some of new features wont be good some will be.
This game has hundreds of features and you don't like few so its UBI's mistreating the franchise.
If they didn't buy it we wouldn't have anything after Heroes IV. Maybe that sounds good for someone, but to me it definitely doesn't.
Dismissing any step other then rehash of one game in entire series is non productive and that is what is hurting franchise.
Another problem is that everyone has their own opinion and sticks to it like its the only solution.
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted October 24, 2014 04:56 PM |
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dark-whisperer said:
And what is so bad about UBI? They made second best heroes in series and they said they are returning to roots in new heroes. So far everything looks good (except town screens but I can live with what we saw), there is flow of information everything is unfolding right before our eyes.
I get what you are saying, but I have to say, for all the credit I will give them for H5 which was became a great game, everything they've done since then seems to be distancing themselves from that game. Even after the complete failure of H6 and continually drowning the series in (bad) lore, they almost blindly insist on continuing down that path. Yeah, H7 is a return to roots, except we still get non-random skills, we still get new stupid resources, and we still get horrible 7 schools of magic, which for me means we end up pretty far from the roots after all. I will give them the benefit of the doubt until the game is actually out, but I have to say that the way things look at the moment I'm not overly optimistic about the direction they are going.
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supertommy
Known Hero
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posted October 24, 2014 05:21 PM |
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alcibiades said:
Yeah, H7 is a return to roots, except we still get non-random skills [...]
This is almost certain a game-breaking feature to me. As it was with H6.
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supertommy
Known Hero
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posted October 24, 2014 05:25 PM |
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And just to make sure Dungeon is winning, they just posted this on the blog. No artwork Inferno-style, though ...
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted October 24, 2014 05:30 PM |
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Edited by Galaad at 17:31, 24 Oct 2014.
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supertommy said:
And just to make sure Dungeon is winning, they just posted this on the blog. No artwork Inferno-style, though ...
That's a bit odd indeed. Maybe is because Dungeon has the lead ? Well still is purple 
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted October 24, 2014 05:36 PM |
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Reverse psychology!
Pity that it won't work as Fury victory shows
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Kimarous
Supreme Hero
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posted October 24, 2014 05:49 PM |
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dark-whisperer said:
I fail to see what is UBI doing wrong here and why are some people claiming that this is death of franchise.
Wow, hyperbole much? How does "expressing mild disappointment in something that feels off-topic from the blog" translate into "pronouncing doom and gloom for all of Heroes"?
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted October 24, 2014 05:54 PM |
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Edited by Galaad at 17:55, 24 Oct 2014.
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@Kimarous : I do admit I'm not that confident with the future of the franchise. Because of too many so called "improvements", Ubisoft has failed so far to provide a worthy successor of H3.
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dark-whisperer
Famous Hero
Darkness feels no mercy
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posted October 24, 2014 05:54 PM |
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Lets wait until tomorrow or until 5 or 3 days are left for vote. Maybe there will be inferno castle with text: "5 days left for vote". I agree that it isn't fair to put only one faction picture for few days but the other will have more visibility for the rest of the vote. With discover articles inferno stayed on top banner alone much longer because it was second.
Anyway it is strange decision.
On other topic, do you think that NWC and 3DO would do better? After all, they made Heroes IV.
Its not UBI's fault that so many people want exact Heroes 3 copy but at the same time they want something new and different. People really don't know what they want.
What is worthy successor of Heroes 3?
Nobody knows, but its sure UBI's fault we are not getting it.
Its so easy to say "I want my Heroes 3 feel (when I was 10 years old) now! (when Im 25)". Its not gonna happen. And again that's largely because people don't know what they want. I saw so many times people having what they ask in game and then discovering its not what game was missing in the first place.
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