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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted December 19, 2014 06:51 PM |
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Edited by Stevie at 18:52, 19 Dec 2014.
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We hope that this great news will allow you to bear the wait until January!
J-JANUARY?!! Omg Imma die! Great news and sad news at the same time. Happiness and sadness together. So.. dramatic! 
Guess everyone needs a break once in a while 
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Guide to a Great Heroes Game
The Young Traveler
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supertommy
Known Hero
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posted December 19, 2014 07:28 PM |
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This is amazing news! Now I can finally look forward to the game fully without having the nervous thought of non-random skills in my head. A very appreciated gift, Ubi/Limbic!
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Zombi_Wizzard
Famous Hero
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posted December 19, 2014 07:29 PM |
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 for random skills. Now it's official and I can be excited 
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted December 19, 2014 07:30 PM |
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Dear Lord, you are so cringe-inducing.
I'm glad for those who wanted the random skills. Idrc
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supertommy
Known Hero
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posted December 19, 2014 07:34 PM |
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Just close your eyes and think about posts written in your perfect world.
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted December 19, 2014 08:07 PM |
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see? whining like babies does work!
good job everyone!
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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted December 19, 2014 08:08 PM |
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GenyaArikado said:
Dear Lord, you are so cringe-inducing.
I'm glad for those who wanted the random skills. Idrc
lol
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Alex_Yakub
Famous Hero
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posted December 19, 2014 08:51 PM |
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kiryu133 said:
see? whining like babies does work!
Who said it doesn't?
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted December 19, 2014 08:55 PM |
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If it worked we would've had Heroes of Might & Magic III 2 by now 
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Gryphs
Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
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posted December 19, 2014 09:12 PM |
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I am glad they put in random skills and am also glad it is a option it is nice that they took both groups interests into mind.
Avirosb said:
If it worked we would've had Heroes of Might & Magic III 2 by now
Well there is Heroes 3 HD and Heroes 5 kinda was Heroes 3 2.
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Kronos1000
Promising
Supreme Hero
Fryslân Boppe
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posted December 19, 2014 09:13 PM |
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Great news!  I think this was the perfect solution; bring back random skills, but leave it optional for those who wish to reduce the randomness. Well done people!
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Hwær cwom mearg? Hwær cwom mago?
Hwær cwom maþþumgyfa? - 'The Wanderer'
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted December 19, 2014 09:27 PM |
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Edited by Galaad at 21:28, 19 Dec 2014.
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Gryphs said:
Heroes 5 kinda was Heroes 3 2.
I disagree. H5 lacks the atmosphere of previous opuses.
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Zombi_Wizzard
Famous Hero
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posted December 19, 2014 11:22 PM |
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Galaad said:
Gryphs said:
Heroes 5 kinda was Heroes 3 2.
I disagree. H5 lacks the atmosphere of previous opuses.
but brings new atmosphere in it by itself. Which is not to be underestimated. Im sure in 15 years there will be people which are going to miss atmosphere of games Ubi has created, if Ubi won't be making this games anymore. It's all subjective. If you take all this away tho, and look at gameplay on itself - well let's just say I always considered H5 to be "modern remake" of H3. But it was more than this, because, from mechanics standpoint I would say (and don't attack me for it), H5 is superior to H3 in almost every way, except UI. There. And I'm not talking about art design, creature "lineups" or story. Because all of that is subjective. However this is also what makes up the atmosphere.
For me, the best atmosphere comes from the very first Heroes game I played. And that's the original DOS based, Heroes of Might and Magic (A Strategic Quest). To me nothing beats that. From title screen, where all the mythical creatures are gathered together and cheering for the heroes ... to awsome town screens, which i belive i mentioned at one point, to funny and simplistic animations and sounds, and music ... yes. The memorable music.
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted December 19, 2014 11:54 PM |
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I wonder how will they implement this RS on/off thing. Seems like it will require a lot of tweaking and balancing...
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andy_dandy
Adventuring Hero
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posted December 20, 2014 04:29 AM |
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kiryu133 said:
see? whining like babies does work!
good job everyone!
Nah, not whining, but talking sense does.  My compliments to the developers. You are bringing hope back to a franchise that has been through its dark ages.
I hereby declare that H7 shall be given the title: A NEW HOPE.
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Kimarous
Supreme Hero
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posted December 20, 2014 09:22 AM |
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blob2 said:
I wonder how will they implement this RS on/off thing. Seems like it will require a lot of tweaking and balancing...
Wouldn't they just make the "pick what you want" option first (like they already intended), then just add a toggle for "2-3 selections not yet chosen by the player are randomly drawn up (provided prerequisites are met)"? Assuming they don't go for a completely even draw percentage with all remaining options, the closest thing I can think of for "a lot of tweaking and balancing" would be adding specific draw percentages to each option.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted December 20, 2014 10:07 AM |
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Edited by Galaad at 10:20, 20 Dec 2014.
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blob2 said:
I wonder how will they implement this RS on/off thing. Seems like it will require a lot of tweaking and balancing...
I wonder too. I hope they will study well the system as it was in H3 and H5 and that they will put some serious thought into it in order to provide the best game as they claim. It would generate a lot of hate if the random system is just poorly implemented.
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Zombi_Wizzard
Famous Hero
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posted December 20, 2014 11:31 AM |
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Galaad said:
blob2 said:
I wonder how will they implement this RS on/off thing. Seems like it will require a lot of tweaking and balancing...
I wonder too. I hope they will study well the system as it was in H3 and H5 and that they will put some serious thought into it in order to provide the best game as they claim. It would generate a lot of hate if the random system is just poorly implemented.
well if skills are like those in H6, then there's no worry imo. Those kind of skills would work quite well in random enviorment. They will probably not be completly random - magic heroes might get more chance of getting magic skills, for eg., which imo isn't that hard to implement. You don't need much more for them to work hornestly.
If on the other hand we have skill trees and ultimate skills with tons of pre-requiered skills to unlock - it might become a mess...
Best case scenario is ofc to have 2 diferent skill systems entierly, but i don't keep my hopes up for that, since that would require far too much effort and resourcess.
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Pawek_13
Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted December 20, 2014 12:51 PM |
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Zombi_Wizzard said:
well if skills are like those in H6, then there's no worry imo. Those kind of skills would work quite well in random enviorment. They will probably not be completly random - magic heroes might get more chance of getting magic skills, for eg., which imo isn't that hard to implement. You don't need much more for them to work hornestly
In Heroes VII we will get skillwheel (or something similar) and it will be separated into three sections - Magic, Might and "Neutral" skills (probably luck, morale, some skills associated with developing your town and probably faction skill), hence thos system will be just more advanced version of one from Heroes V.
In my opinion skills' aqquirement will look like this: after you get new level, you will be able to choose from 6 skills - 3 magical, 2 neutral and 1 might for Magic heroes and the inverse for Might heroes. Probably similar situation will occur with perks. Just add to that different chances of obtaining specific skills and voilà, the basis of skills' system is ready!
PS. Do not forget to add perks which are faction exclusive! They make them even more distinct.
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted December 20, 2014 01:36 PM |
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What we need is meaningful skills (it isn't necessary to have them all equally important). H6 system where a skill would give you like +3 to morale, when morale could go up to 100 made me cry
Random system should give you two skills and two perks to choose from (like H5), the key is not reapeating H5 mistake (randomness values being too crazy).
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