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Kronos1000
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posted January 07, 2015 11:04 AM |
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Avonu said:
As someone has pointed it to me, here is a quote from HoMM7 artist blog:
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New pics coming soon from Heroes of Might and Magic (A whole new clan) [faction - Avonu]
We should have new information about next faction soon(TM), as Ubisoft always publishes concept arts before H7 graphic artits can do it on their sites.
This got me exited!  I hope soon(TM) is not too far away! I think it's Stronghold (if the order of factions on the website is anything to go by), but I hope it's Necropolis.
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Protolisk
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posted January 07, 2015 05:42 PM |
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Kronos1000 said:
This got me exited! I hope soon(TM) is not too far away! I think it's Stronghold (if the order of factions on the website is anything to go by), but I hope it's Necropolis.
The way it says "a whole new clan" really makes me think it is Stronghold. Sahaar orcs are a clan that we haven't seen, I think, in the Heroes line, though they have popped up in DoC. And they wouldn't really call Necropolis a "clan", though I do admit "clan" is more a dwarf and dark elf thing and "tribe" an orc thing, but it still makes sense.
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Stevie
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posted January 07, 2015 06:03 PM |
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Pawek_13
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posted January 07, 2015 06:07 PM |
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Stevie said:
Em... there's a new post about Magic Guilds in Heroes VII.
I like the fact that on every level of Magic Guild you are able to learn 4 spells. It seems that in implementing 7 magic schools some level of fought has been put.
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xerox
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posted January 07, 2015 06:22 PM |
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very pleased about the magic system though I prefered H4 and H5s specialized spell schools over elemental ones
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fuChris
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posted January 07, 2015 06:29 PM |
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This whole 7 schools of magic is still limited by how many actually useful spells it can distribute and even with 15-20 spells per school we will end up with either a big overlap or some genuinely useless spells.
This also means that there will be probably only 2-4 spells per level per magic school, and considering how many of them will be actually useful and not a copy of another spell then we still end up with a pretty high chance of getting the not so useful ones.
I can already imagine it... first level mage guild filled with protestion from *random element*, remove obstacle and other H4 style adventuremap spells which are useless in creeping.
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Avirosb
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posted January 07, 2015 07:10 PM |
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Edited by Avirosb at 19:12, 07 Jan 2015.
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Mage Guilds could've been like in Rollercoaster Tycoon where you chose your spell research (attraction in RCT) based on what you need
(with a slight faction bias of course). The results could still be somewhat random.
Higher levels would yield a wider selection of stronger spells.
Just food for thought, because I sure hasn't thought it through.
It might not work at all.
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LucPatenaude
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posted January 07, 2015 07:18 PM |
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@FuChris: You forgot about the Orcs.
The Stronghold faction generally has its own set of vocal-cords' strength based shouts of nature bound spells that can not be used by any other factions of this magnificent game.
I really do think that racial abilities(0 mana need for casting those) will be increased in availability. So, that way, free beneficial spells for the light based factions and, free cursing spells for the dark based factions will see themselves become easier to get as an experience gaining bonus or, even through witch huts of the same home territory of the specific faction.
Do not forget the many additions of features that were present in the previous instalments of Heroes 2 and 3 into Heroes 7.
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Avonu
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Embracing light and darkness
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posted January 07, 2015 08:11 PM |
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Orcs use magic as any other factions. You didn't play Heroes 6, did you?
Orcs favor two magic schools because their deities: Air (Father Sky) and Earth (Mother Earth).
Here you have more information about factions favor school of magic.
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TDL
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posted January 08, 2015 12:56 AM |
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100% stronghold... Judging by how factions have been released until now... Also, they seem to go the way they are listed on the website... Plus, they seem to fashion doing might/magic/might/magic/...
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Stevie
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posted January 08, 2015 01:54 AM |
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MattII
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posted January 08, 2015 04:09 AM |
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So 4 levels, 7 schools. I can't see more than 3 spells per level per school happening, maybe 4 at level 1, and 2 at level 4.
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Steyn
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posted January 08, 2015 08:53 AM |
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Spells can also be learnt by visiting specific buildings on the adventure map.
This makes me happy
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Avonu
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posted January 08, 2015 09:20 AM |
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Edited by Avonu at 09:25, 08 Jan 2015.
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Regarding magic schools - why I have a feeling that we will see much of Might and Magic X spells in Heroes 7?
Steyn said:
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Spells can also be learnt by visiting specific buildings on the adventure map.
This makes me happy
We know about Library as adventure building since Heroes 7 annoucment at Gamescom.
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Steyn
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posted January 08, 2015 10:32 AM |
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Avonu said:
Regarding magic schools - why I have a feeling that we will see much of Might and Magic X spells in Heroes 7?
Is this such a bad thing? MMX had some pretty nice spells.
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We know about Library as adventure building since Heroes 7 annoucment at Gamescom.
Oops, I had forgotten about that. Still, being reminded of a nice feature makes me happy  Also they say buildings, which hints at more than a Library. Possibly the shrines will return 
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War-overlord
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posted January 08, 2015 10:36 AM |
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Steyn said:
Avonu said:
Regarding magic schools - why I have a feeling that we will see much of Might and Magic X spells in Heroes 7?
Is this such a bad thing? MMX had some pretty nice spells.
Kinda agree with Steyn here.
Sure, there are a few which would have little use in HoMM, but those should be replaceable easy enough.
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Avonu
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Embracing light and darkness
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posted January 08, 2015 11:16 AM |
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I didn't say it is bad or good idea, I only pointed that we have a good chance to see MMX spells in Heroes 7. Spells which some are "taken" from Heroes 6.
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War-overlord
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posted January 08, 2015 11:28 AM |
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Avonu said:
I didn't say it is bad or good idea, I only pointed that we have a good chance to see MMX spells in Heroes 7. Spells which some are "taken" from Heroes 6.
Fair enough.
Plus there are spells like Lightning Bolt and Fire Ball, which have been around since Gods know when.
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Avonu
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posted January 08, 2015 11:46 AM |
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Edited by Avonu at 11:50, 08 Jan 2015.
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Since HoMM1 (and I don't count King's Bounty or MM1-5). 
Nevertheless it's not about names only, it's about spells icons and magic schools too.
Ubisoft heavy (re)use whatever it can from Heroes 6 in its next MM games (MMX, Heroes Online, DoC, Heroes 7).
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Kronos1000
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Fryslân Boppe
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posted January 08, 2015 12:02 PM |
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I don't think that having seven magic schools will necessarily make the game better or worse. Though it could potentially make the game harder to balance.
That said, I am thankful that the magic system has been separated from the skill system, even though we already knew that.
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