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alcibiades
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of Gold Dragons
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posted January 09, 2015 01:48 PM |
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kiryu133 said:
i hate that system since it forces me to specialize in one approach if i choose a spell school. better to mix all types of spells (buffs, debuffs, damage, summons, utility) into thematic schools. h3 did it right: all schools had access to every type of spell but they were still thematically connected within those schools: earth had to powerful damage spells, buffs focused on allowing your troops to take more punishment (rock hard, baby) and debuffs focused on slowing or outright stopping enemies (slow, forcefield and quicksand). fire had several area of effect damage spells, buffs focusing on increasing the damage your troops can deal and debuffs were all about forcing your opponents to do (or not do anything) something bad (blind, berserk).
it wasn't perfect, but thematic cohesion was still there and you didn't miss out on something no matter what school you took. h5 system was too limiting.
I disagree with you that H3 got it right, H3 system was terribly imbalanced - you always wanted Earth Magic no matter what, and Fire Magic was far worse than the other schools - in fact, Fire Magic was the only school where you could get fairly good effect from most spells with no mastery (most critically: A key spell like Blind worked perfectly well without mastery). But even with a better spell distribution than was arguably the case in H3, the inherent problem of such a system is that you don't have much motivation to pick more than one or maybe two spell schools - when every school has a bit of everything, why pick more schools?
H5 spell system was much better but suffered from a general issue with the H5 skill system that you generally got too few skills (only 5 skills compared to 8 in H3, not counting the class skill) and that levels were too far between once you hit level 20, which meant that you generally didn't have quite the option for multi-picking as the system catered for.
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kiryu133
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Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted January 09, 2015 01:51 PM |
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Pawek_13 said:
They also have no intention in doing bad work, either. Creating such a dud as AC: Unity does terrible job with public opinion about their enterprise. Also importance of those projects is different. AC is the most important source of profit for Ubisoft, so they are released annually (the consequence of that has been recenty noticed but Ubisoft has learnt the lesson and every year one of two studios will release its AC, giving one additional year for production of the game). Heroes VII is not that important and its release date won't change greatly outcomes of fiscal year 2015, therefore up to the point when release date is year 2015, nothing will be particularly rushed.
Ubi clearly doesn't think long-term (if they did, why do a unity?). all they care about are the quick bucks. 2014 was a low point for them, granted, but they have never shown any willingness to actually treat their customers (or games) with any respect. H7 isn't an exception. if they can make some extra money releasing it rushed (say, with the anniversary for that little bit of extra exposure) you can bet your sorry ass they're gonna do it.
yeah, i hate Ubi. what of it?
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Darkem
Known Hero
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posted January 09, 2015 02:07 PM |
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Maybe I'm wrong but I find tons of replayability in the games with no perfect balance. It somehow makes them less generic and interesting. Sometimes overdone balance makes all of the things (factions/heroes/etc) the same and that's the ultimate fun killer.
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted January 09, 2015 04:53 PM |
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Darkem said:
Maybe I'm wrong but I find tons of replayability in the games with no perfect balance. It somehow makes them less generic and interesting. Sometimes overdone balance makes all of the things (factions/heroes/etc) the same and that's the ultimate fun killer.
I do agree about that, lack of balance - for instance between individual spells - is fine, because it adds excitement to the game (will you get the "good" spell?). However, the balance issues there was in H3 was not of that kind, because the balance was not (only) between spells within each spell school but also overall imbalance between the spell schools, which reduced variation in the game - when you always take Earth Magic this is an issue because that makes game less interesting.
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Stevie
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Undefeatable Hero
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posted January 09, 2015 04:59 PM |
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Kronos1000
Promising
Supreme Hero
Fryslân Boppe
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posted January 09, 2015 05:20 PM |
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Not too much new information unfortunately, but a few things stand out.
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Someone from Ivan’s family should approach soon to share her knowledge and wisdom.
Interesting. This implies Anastasya, so maybe Necropolis after all? 
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(...) However, you might have some surprises in the next few months while discovering upcoming faction mounts. We didn’t say that they will all be simple horses, did we? 
No elephants was expected, because an Academy hero already appeared in the gameplay demo and they did not ride one. But no 'simple horses' is a good thing.
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(...) [O]ur aim is to offer at least one video per faction until the release of the game.
Looking forward to it!
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Hwær cwom maþþumgyfa? - 'The Wanderer'
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mike80d
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Map Maker
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posted January 09, 2015 05:22 PM |
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Stevie said:
COMMUNITY Q&A PART 1 
I'm really happy about their enthusiasm for a quality map editor. User created content often times exceed the developers', and in the case of the Homm franchise this definitely is the case.
I'll be curious to see what mounts they come up with. I always appreciated finding unique mounts in other games. For example, when an artifact you stumble upon is a rare egg that 7-days later hatches into a random unique mount that has some strategic advantages (i.e. increase in poison resistance, less of a penalty walking through marshland, etc.).
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Undefeatable Hero
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posted January 09, 2015 05:34 PM |
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So the important things for me that I got from those Q&A answers are:
- Elvis and JJ are playing with Heroes 7 features as we speak;
- one gameplay video per faction, which is great;
- Necropolis reveal confirmed;
- no Sylvan revote;
- 2D townscreens;
- not too many different mounts.
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War-overlord
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Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted January 09, 2015 05:35 PM |
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Kronos1000 said:
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Someone from Ivan’s family should approach soon to share her knowledge and wisdom.
Interesting. This implies Anastasya, so maybe Necropolis after all?
Likely, though perhaps not. Just Kraal, as Slava's Master of Arms in HVI, the Slava's Orc Master of Arms, I forget his name, might be considered part of the family too.
Kronos1000 said:
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(...) However, you might have some surprises in the next few months while discovering upcoming faction mounts. We didn’t say that they will all be simple horses, did we?
No elephants was expected, because an Academy hero already appeared in the gameplay demo and they did not ride one. But no 'simple horses' is a good thing.
Which means that likely, Delves would still ride those CaveStalker things, or whatever they are called, which makes they can reuse the old model. Elves might ride Unicorns, And perhaps, Orcs, if those leaks were true about them riding Giant Lizards, might be a slight overhaul of that model, which they had to create anyway for the unit.
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Pawek_13
Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted January 09, 2015 05:42 PM |
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War-overlord said:
Kronos1000 said:
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Someone from Ivan’s family should approach soon to share her knowledge and wisdom.
Interesting. This implies Anastasya, so maybe Necropolis after all?
Likely, though perhaps not. Just Kraal, as Slava's Master of Arms in HVI, the Slava's Orc Master of Arms, I forget his name, might be considered part of the family too.
Don't forget that the pronoun "her" was used and since all other female Council had their factions revealed (Sylvan will most likely have some male elf to keep the balance of sexes  ), this implies that Anastasya will for sure be next.
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Stevie
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Undefeatable Hero
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posted January 09, 2015 05:44 PM |
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Edited by Stevie at 17:45, 09 Jan 2015.
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted January 09, 2015 05:46 PM |
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Pawek_13 said:
Don't forget that the pronoun "her" was used and since all other female Council had their factions revealed ( Sylvan will most likely have some male elf to keep the balance of sexes ), this implies that Anastasya will for sure be next.
Must of read over that. Oops.
And there is no way I'll get away with suggesting the Orc is a woman either.
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RMZ1989
Supreme Hero
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posted January 09, 2015 06:10 PM |
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Cool, at least we got some new information about this. I am looking forward to see Necropolis faction, hopefully they won't blew up.
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Give a man a mask, and he'll
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted January 09, 2015 06:10 PM |
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Edited by Avonu at 18:15, 09 Jan 2015.
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mike80d said:
I'm really happy about their enthusiasm for a quality map editor. User created content often times exceed the developers', and in the case of the Homm franchise this definitely is the case.
We fans were promised with user-friendly map editor for Heroes 5. We were promised same thing for Heroes 6. We were promised for MMX modding tool. Guess what we got at the end?
War-overlord said:
Orc Master of Arms, I forget his name
Kente
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"When someone desires information, they come to me."
"Details are everything."
Pipiru piru piru pipiru pi!
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted January 09, 2015 06:13 PM |
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted January 09, 2015 06:24 PM |
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Meh, barely anything new, aside from Necropolis reveal. I hope the second half reveals more info.
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Stevie
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Undefeatable Hero
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posted January 09, 2015 06:46 PM |
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cleglaw
Famous Hero
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posted January 09, 2015 07:47 PM |
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted January 09, 2015 07:52 PM |
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Edited by Galaad at 22:49, 09 Jan 2015.
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I see something new.
Ubi-Nox said:
We understood we made bad choices with Heroes VI but we are back with a new over-motivated team.
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Stevie
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Undefeatable Hero
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posted January 09, 2015 08:45 PM |
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Man, some people on that blog are so unreasonable. They want to know anything and everything and it has to be super flashy and of quality too. And if possible play the game right on the spot. I don't think there's 10% there that understand the purpose of that site as well as its constraints. Ubi-Nox is doing quite a good job replying to so many complainers and keeping himself sane in the meantime.
If I'd be asked to describe the community in one word right now it would be... cancer. 
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This MEGA THREAD is pages long: 
