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Stevie
Stevie


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posted January 25, 2015 09:00 PM

artu said:
That's what a merge means, a mummy and a lich, they are not necessarily exclusive.


Wikipedia said:
In the Dungeons & Dragons game (and other works of fantasy fiction that draw upon Dungeons & Dragons for inspiration) a lich is often a spellcaster or someone assisted by a spellcaster who seeks to defy death by magical means.


So how exactly does a Mummy avoid death by magical means since it already died and got mummified?

Debating what a Lich is on a gaming forum.

By the way, if you appreciate the "Mummy Lich" so badly, why were you so opposed to the Vampire Knight again? Isn't it a merge between a vampire and a knight? By your logic that should work too!
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LizardWarrior
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posted January 25, 2015 09:02 PM

Mummy lich is also used by games workshop (WH tomb kings), the same company that made them renounce at lots of h5 concepts

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Pawek_13
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Maths, maths everywhere!
posted January 25, 2015 09:03 PM

Stevie said:
By the way, if you appreciate the "Mummy Lich" so badly, why were you so opposed to the Vampire Knight again? Isn't it a merge between a vampire and a knight? By your logic that should work too!

Stevie, don't use red herrings, please.

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Zombi_Wizzard
Zombi_Wizzard


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posted January 25, 2015 09:13 PM

What If a person decides to be Lich. Is he instantly skeleton-ized (I'm sorry but from now on I demand that this becomes a word)?

Does storing your soul in a jar or a crystal also drain away your skin?

Or is the lich so long in this state that he became skeletal? If that's the case, he must've been non-skeletal at some point in time. Was he not lich unitil he became skeleton? Maybe he was called undead wizard, but was renamed to lich, after his skin decayed and became skeleton?

What if a lich decided that he wants to preserve his body via mummyfication?

I don't know much about Liches ... so who knows?

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artu
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posted January 25, 2015 09:13 PM
Edited by artu at 21:24, 25 Jan 2015.

1- Vampires have a set of very traditional and accepted looks which are very irrelevant to that knight, where as if you image search lich on google, you'll see many different faces... Some skeletal, some decayed in a mummified way and most in between. The sunk-in expectations are not analogous. And it's not strictly about logic but also taste, the vampires look horrible.

2-  Mummification is a process, where as Tutankamon is a personality, dont confuse the two, it's like the difference between vampirism and Dracula. A lich can have a mummified face while avoiding death just like a skeletal face, it doesnt require him to have the story of an Egyptian mummy. Although, I find Lizard's version of Egyptian mummy lich additionally tasteful visually. The mythological origins and stories are secondary to the overall result. (Hence, nobody complains about the mechanical golems.)
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Stormcaller
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posted January 25, 2015 09:19 PM

Guys, guys. It's quite clear how this protest will end. They'll show us new and shiny stronghold and soon everyone will forget about Necropolis. 3 nicely modeled factions shown so far > Necropolis. Doubt this protest will accomplish anything.

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LizardWarrior
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posted January 25, 2015 09:21 PM

Or:
Quote:
Here at Might & Magic HQ, we’re very fond of the H6 Necropolis Stronghold, and we feel they are one of the best factions of that game in terms of art direction. So we didn’t want to recreate it from scratch

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Zombi_Wizzard
Zombi_Wizzard


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posted January 25, 2015 09:22 PM
Edited by Zombi_Wizzard at 21:24, 25 Jan 2015.

Here's more ...

What if Vampire decides to equip sword and armor? You know to avoid the all powerfull stick in the hearth? Makes sence with all arrows flying about.

Is H7 Vampire stil vulnerable to crosses? That would explain the lack of sword ... maybe he would equip katana instead?

How about garlic?

What if a knight gets bitten by a Vampire? Will he cease to be knight? Or are knights imune to Vampirism? Most important ... will he shed his arms and armor in this case in favour of tuxedo?


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RMZ1989
RMZ1989


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posted January 25, 2015 09:30 PM

War-overlord said:
We all know there is only one true Lich, The Lich King:



So, Death Knight(that resemblance H6 and H7 Vampire a lot) is a Lich King, while on the other hand we have Liches drinking Venom and turning into Vampires.
Everything is starting to make sense now...
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fuChris
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posted January 25, 2015 09:32 PM

Zombi_Wizzard said:
What if a knight gets bitten by a Vampire? Will he cease to be knight? Or are knights imune to Vampirism?


What if a Vampire gets bitten by a Knight?
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artu
artu


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted January 25, 2015 09:35 PM

If a vampire bites a knight that's not news but if a knight bites a vampire, now, that's news.
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LizardWarrior
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the reckoning is at hand
posted January 25, 2015 09:37 PM
Edited by LizardWarrior at 21:37, 25 Jan 2015.

Quote:
What if a Vampire gets bitten by a Knight?


The vampire transforms into a peasant

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kiryu133
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posted January 25, 2015 09:40 PM

Zombi_Wizzard said:

What if a knight gets bitten by a Vampire? Will he cease to be knight? Or are knights imune to Vampirism? Most important ... will he shed his arms and armor in this case in favour of tuxedo?




You tellin' me you wouldn't? cause would in a heartbeat (pun intentional). Then i'd turn horribly cliché just for the evulz.

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Pawek_13
Pawek_13


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Maths, maths everywhere!
posted January 25, 2015 09:40 PM

LizardWarrior said:
Quote:
What if a Vampire gets bitten by a Knight?


The vampire transforms into a peasant

I miss peasants. And weak goblins...

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War-overlord
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posted January 25, 2015 09:42 PM

frostymuaddib said:
Please, don't give Ubi ideas

Make something beloved and such a commercial mega-succes that everyone has been trying to copy it for the last ten years?
Yeah, yeah, that sure is an terrible idea.
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Galaad
Galaad

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posted January 25, 2015 09:45 PM

WO : Copying never is a good idea
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kiryu133
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Highly illogical
posted January 25, 2015 09:47 PM

War-overlord said:
frostymuaddib said:
Please, don't give Ubi ideas

Make something beloved and such a commercial mega-succes that everyone has been trying to copy it for the last ten years?
Yeah, yeah, that sure is an terrible idea.


TBS's will never be that successful so there's not really much reason to try

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Stevie
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posted January 25, 2015 09:47 PM

Galaad said:
WO : Copying never is a good idea


Unless it's Ubisoft, then it's the one and only good idea.
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LizardWarrior
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posted January 25, 2015 09:47 PM

LMAO stevie

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Alex_Yakub
Alex_Yakub


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posted January 25, 2015 10:23 PM

kiryu133 said:
War-overlord said:
frostymuaddib said:
Please, don't give Ubi ideas

Make something beloved and such a commercial mega-succes that everyone has been trying to copy it for the last ten years?
Yeah, yeah, that sure is an terrible idea.


TBS's will never be that successful so there's not really much reason to try

Heroes III and Civilization V disagree with you.
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