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dark-whisperer
Famous Hero
Darkness feels no mercy
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posted February 20, 2015 05:12 PM |
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Dave_Jame said:
...Some people actually do. We got the Exp. progression table back in H6's developement, and after that game, I personally would like to have a look into the games economy, population mechanics, town develpement and some other ones. They might still be workin on these, but that was JJ's point. We have a list of features and a small look at some of the content, but we have rather few informations about the mechanics of the game.
That's what really small part of community wants. I didn't see single post about lack of information how many experience you will need to get to level 23 on medium map with heavy density of low level creatures in a spread sheet so you can learn mechanics of the game. If you are looking for that kind of information during development I can bet you are in minority.
Also I don't think that such details are crucial or even relevant to know at this point. Saying that we know nothing because we don't have specifics of certain mechanic is crazy.
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The_green_drag
Supreme Hero
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posted February 20, 2015 05:17 PM |
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Got a chance to look at the update on my computer now. I like most of the attack animations, but the grim reapers spikes on its back clearly get in the way of it swinging that scythe above its head
Those spikes don't need to be there already so this just makes them a double negative.
And I did lol after reading grim riders lore. Gets me thinking on what marzhin said about the skeleton liches, "what do they gain"....ughhh...what do the vampire lords GAIN from becoming grim riders....a horse, scythe, and hood? Looks like they also LOSE life drain, teleporting, and their super speed. Oh and they lose frostmourne 
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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted February 20, 2015 05:25 PM |
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dark-whisperer said:
That's what really small part of community wants. I didn't see single post about lack of information how many experience you will need to get to level 23 on medium map with heavy density of low level creatures in a spread sheet so you can learn mechanics of the game. If you are looking for that kind of information during development I can bet you are in minority.
the way I see it, we mostly bicker over lore, creatures and factions because it was drilled into us during Heroes 6 that those are important,
for most of the development cycle all we were given was a drip feed of info on that garbage, one unit at a time, and it's a little better now, but not that much
people argued to no end about the H6 creatures and town screens because that's what we were fed, but when the beta came out everyone quickly realized how dull and crap the gameplay was and adjusted their feedback in that direction
creatures and factions will always be popular topics, they always were, but I can guarantee you there was just as much two-way discussion about gameplay iteration, towns, economics, skills, strategies, AI, map editors, all of that back in the NWC days. not anymore lol
basically, if you have a problem with the conversation about graphics/fluff, complain to Ubi because they're the ones setting the table lol
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted February 20, 2015 05:32 PM |
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Stevie said:
Paris Event - Community Q&A Time
Edit: Expected something else? 
Don'tbe so proud.
Congratulations!
...but I afraid you will be "corrupted" by Erwan, when you meet him. After all he is a nice guy (whatever you think about "his" Ashan).
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"When someone desires information, they come to me."
"Details are everything."
Pipiru piru piru pipiru pi!
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted February 20, 2015 05:40 PM |
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Edited by Stevie at 17:41, 20 Feb 2015.
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The_Green_Drag
Supreme Hero
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posted February 20, 2015 05:48 PM |
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Stevie said:
By "Expected something else" I wanted to underline that people would think it was a blog article before clicking the link
hehehe, I know I did 
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Sandro400
Promising
Supreme Hero
Shadow of Death
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posted February 20, 2015 05:54 PM |
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Congrats guys! You deserve this 
Avonu said:
...but I afraid you will be "corrupted" by Erwan, when you meet him. After all he is a nice guy (whatever you think about "his" Ashan).
I second that. Really, guys, expect all your hatred go away after you talk with him ^^
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Let's play poker game, lich-style!
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dark-whisperer
Famous Hero
Darkness feels no mercy
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posted February 20, 2015 06:24 PM |
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verriker said:
creatures and factions will always be popular topics, they always were, but I can guarantee you there was just as much two-way discussion about gameplay iteration, towns, economics, skills, strategies, AI, map editors, all of that back in the NWC days. not anymore lol
basically, if you have a problem with the conversation about graphics/fluff, complain to Ubi because they're the ones setting the table lol
I really doubt that NWC discussed all those things in depth with community during the development of vanilla game.
And I really don't have problem with discussion about few lines of silly lore or how few units look in the game as I said. In fact I quite enjoy reading when people get upset about such trivial things.
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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted February 20, 2015 07:03 PM |
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dark-whisperer said:
I really doubt that NWC discussed all those things in depth with community during the development of vanilla game.
doubt all you may, but the fact is that although we weren't forced to choose between factions back then (except to choose the Forge or Conflux I guess lol), there was constant community interaction from the likes of EvilC, Maranthea and Gus Smedstad on whatever topic anyone wanted to discuss
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dark-whisperer
Famous Hero
Darkness feels no mercy
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posted February 20, 2015 08:50 PM |
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verriker said:
doubt all you may, but the fact is that although we weren't forced to choose between factions back then (except to choose the Forge or Conflux I guess lol), there was constant community interaction from the likes of EvilC, Maranthea and Gus Smedstad on whatever topic anyone wanted to discuss
You are really able to twist everything to look bad for UBI, don't you? We were forced to choose? We were asked to choose. We could just get whatever faction they choose for us as it happened every time before. Nobody forced you to push that button and select one faction. You could just silently watch the vote and faction would be chosen for you like always. I guess there is absolutely nothing that UBILimbic can do for you to be satisfied.
And then, is Heroes 3 vanilla great game? I guess not by fan reactions on Heroes 3 HD ROE release. Considering that far superior people from NWC had really good relationship with community on numerous topic I thought that H3 vanilla was very very good game... But it wasn't. So all that cr@p that NWC and 3DO were perfect and did things right during H3 development can go down the toilet where it belongs.
You are just blinded by your hate.
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Zombi_Wizzard
Famous Hero
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posted February 20, 2015 08:52 PM |
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Wellplay
Famous Hero
Poland Stronk
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posted February 20, 2015 08:55 PM |
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@Dark-Whisperer
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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted February 20, 2015 09:14 PM |
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dark-whisperer said:
You are really able to twist everything to look bad for UBI, don't you? We were forced to choose? We were asked to choose. We could just get whatever faction they choose for us as it happened every time before. Nobody forced you to push that button and select one faction. You could just silently watch the vote and faction would be chosen for you like always. I guess there is absolutely nothing that UBILimbic can do for you to be satisfied.
And then, is Heroes 3 vanilla great game? I guess not by fan reactions on Heroes 3 HD ROE release. Considering that far superior people from NWC had really good relationship with community on numerous topic I thought that H3 vanilla was very very good game... But it wasn't. So all that cr@p that NWC and 3DO were perfect and did things right during H3 development can go down the toilet where it belongs.
You are just blinded by your hate.
1) I'm not sure why you would get so frustrated with me on a personal level lol, after all I could very easily retort that you're blinded by inexplicable corporate fanboyism, but let's leave the lazy ad hominem arguments out of it, eh?
2) I'd be entirely satisfied by an enjoyable Heroes game with minimal bugs, a challenging AI to fight, good art, a fairly intelligent story and addictive gameplay, a reasonable combination which you cannot deny has not been seen since Heroes 3
3) man speak of twisting things to suit your purposes... the Heroes 3 HD release has been slated because it's an overpriced piece of crap port insultingly laden with bugs and missing content from the expansions, obviously not because the source material is bad lol (it has 5/5 stars from 7000 voters on GOG)
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted February 20, 2015 10:20 PM |
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dark-whisperer said:
And then, is Heroes 3 vanilla great game? I guess not by fan reactions on Heroes 3 HD ROE release. Considering that far superior people from NWC had really good relationship with community on numerous topic I thought that H3 vanilla was very very good game... But it wasn't. So all that cr@p that NWC and 3DO were perfect and did things right during H3 development can go down the toilet where it belongs.
You are just blinded by your hate.
You seem salty.
*Sigh* Would've been nice to finally get 8 factions in a vanilla game again...
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Pawek_13
Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted February 20, 2015 11:20 PM |
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Today I have started "Danse Macabre" DLC, so in fact I played Heroes VI. After how much time I spent on Heroes V the battle interface in that game is so incomfortable. Buttons of defense, hero attack, waiting, and active unit ability should be clustered in one place, just like in Heroes V. This makes playing the game so much more comfortable.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted February 20, 2015 11:50 PM |
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Edited by Galaad at 00:49, 21 Feb 2015.
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[mephisto]Verriker is the best.
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Pawek_13
Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted February 20, 2015 11:53 PM |
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Galaad said:
Verriker is the best.
Comic Sans is the best. <3
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted February 21, 2015 12:07 AM |
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Edited by Stevie at 00:08, 21 Feb 2015.
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dark-whisperer
Famous Hero
Darkness feels no mercy
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posted February 21, 2015 03:01 AM |
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verriker said:
1) I'm not sure why you would get so frustrated with me on a personal level lol, after all I could very easily retort that you're blinded by inexplicable corporate fanboyism, but let's leave the lazy ad hominem arguments out of it, eh?
2) I'd be entirely satisfied by an enjoyable Heroes game with minimal bugs, a challenging AI to fight, good art, a fairly intelligent story and addictive gameplay, a reasonable combination which you cannot deny has not been seen since Heroes 3
3) man speak of twisting things to suit your purposes... the Heroes 3 HD release has been slated because it's an overpriced piece of crap port insultingly laden with bugs and missing content from the expansions, obviously not because the source material is bad lol (it has 5/5 stars from 7000 voters on GOG)
1) I'm not against you on personal level but you represent growing trend that its very "cool" deny any merit to the UBI or HVII. If seeing good sides that undeniably exist in both developers and upcoming game is fanboyism then I'm fanboy. After all I'm posting on fan forum
2) You didn't even play beta of HVII and you already decided that it has none of those features.
3) Are we talking about vanilla game or COMPLETE edition on GOG? How many stars would vanilla H3 ROE get on GOG? 2? Or maybe 3? How can you compare game with 2 expansions with game that is not even out yet.
Anyway I was responding to your comment that NWC had same or better level of communication with fan base. I don't see any fruit of that communication in H3 RoE. Now try to recall #GURS and this to actually see fruits of present communication.
You didn't say one positive thing about game or developers effort to include community and make better heroes on this forum. I fail see anything funny, smart or constructive in that attitude.
Avirosb said:
You seem salty.
If Im salty Verriker is one giant slab of salt 
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted February 21, 2015 08:29 AM |
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Edited by Avirosb at 08:30, 21 Feb 2015.
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dark-whisperer said:
1) I'm not against you on personal level but you represent growing trend that its very "cool" deny any merit to the UBI or HVII.
Do keep in mind that this didn't happen over night.
Game comes after H5 and H6 so it's understandable that some people are being extra skeptical.
Warhammer and celebrity rip-offs, bugs galore, disregard of town screens,
DRM and other unpopular decisions have already left a bad taste in many a mouth,
and when you add to the fact that they flat out tell you they don't have the budget to create a sequel worthy of the franchise, well...
It's like Ubi is conducting an experiment to see how little money they can put into this franchise in order to milk it.
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Are we talking about vanilla game or COMPLETE edition on GOG? How many stars would vanilla H3 ROE get on GOG? 2? Or maybe 3?
Or maybe 4, or 5 or 6? Like, who knows?
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