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War-overlord
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Undefeatable Hero
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posted March 07, 2015 12:03 PM |
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They're looking good Kobalt
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PandaTar
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Legendary Hero
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posted March 07, 2015 12:10 PM |
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Such Interesting info. Thank you both.
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kobalt
Hired Hero
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posted March 07, 2015 12:34 PM |
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War-overlord said:
They're looking good Kobalt
Doing my best, War-Overlord. Thank you. While working on it I was thinking about the rider too and some ideas came up...
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War-overlord
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Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted March 07, 2015 12:43 PM |
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kobalt said:
Doing my best, War-Overlord. Thank you. While working on it I was thinking about the rider too and some ideas came up...
Yeah, well, your versions are closer to the H3 originals, as opposed to the ones I imagined. With the noxious combustible breath and things.
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Stevie
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Undefeatable Hero
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posted March 07, 2015 01:03 PM |
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Kobalt, I think you should create your own Lizardmen faction. I like your vision very much and I think you're on the right track. Just look at all the support you got! Go to the Altar and create your own thread, define the line-ups yourself, provide your own lore, bio, abilities and artistic vision to it and receive full credit for your efforts. It would increase your chance to get noticed and maybe even hired. If you want to be compelling you should take matters into your own hands fully, rather than have someone else take advantage of your work and make use of it however he/she sees fit inside his/her vision. Think about it.
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Zombi_Wizzard
Famous Hero
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posted March 07, 2015 01:03 PM |
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Kobalt ... please stop. You only remind me how awsome art for H7 COULD have been 
Plz Ubi, plz ... hire him, and make lizardmen faction ... And use this art. Gorgon looks
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kobalt
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posted March 07, 2015 01:56 PM |
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War-overlord said:
kobalt said:
Doing my best, War-Overlord. Thank you. While working on it I was thinking about the rider too and some ideas came up...
Yeah, well, your versions are closer to the H3 originals, as opposed to the ones I imagined. With the noxious combustible breath and things.
As you know the intent behind my artwork is to "resurrect" the H3 swamp faction, but your brilliantly written work goes so well with most of the ideas I have that I simply try to blend them whenever I can. For instance: I'm faithful to the H3 Gorgon's form yes, but the idea of them eating dead or wounded (not to mention the rotting flesh they get fed with) justifies the obnoxious stench surrounding them therefore the (H3) breath attack. Working on that concept, the fire breath could also work as methane gas is highly flammable. Perhaps a similar substance would be eliminated when the creature snorts in anger.
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War-overlord
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Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted March 07, 2015 02:12 PM |
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@ Kobalt: I was only making an observation. Your work resembling H3 is a good thing. If your work draws inspiration from mine, all the better for you.
But if you want to discuss the relations between our works, maybe we might want to move that to either my thread or to a newly created one.
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kobalt
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posted March 07, 2015 02:19 PM |
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Stevie said:
Kobalt, I think you should create your own Lizardmen faction. I like your vision very much and I think you're on the right track. Just look at all the support you got! Go to the Altar and create your own thread, define the line-ups yourself, provide your own lore, bio, abilities and artistic vision to it and receive full credit for your efforts. It would increase your chance to get noticed and maybe even hired. If you want to be compelling you should take matters into your own hands fully, rather than have someone else take advantage of your work and make use of it however he/she sees fit inside his/her vision. Think about it.
I can't underline more how thankful I am for everyone's support. It's not always easy finding the time to get a nice piece done, and you guys make it worth it every time. I would like to create a thread and most probably I will but not right now as there are some things to take in consideration. I want to see the Stronghold line-up as some creatures from H3 swamp might be there (?); Wyverns and Hydras belong to other factions (Ashan lore)and I'm still thinking what to replace them with... you guys are helping a lot in that matter btw. Another reason is that War-overlords Ziggurat factions is similar to what I had in mind as far as social status, organization and magic goes. He's done a pretty awesome job. When I'll have my Swamp faction line-up ready I'll gather my thoughts and share them on the Altar. Thank you for the advice, I will certainly take it into consideration
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Stevie
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posted March 07, 2015 02:34 PM |
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Well, I think you're doing a mistake if you think that way. The thing is that what WO does is cater for Ashan, when what you did there is straight out of the old universe. And that's why it's so good, because in this pile of Ashan nonsense, that's like a breath of fresh air that proves how much more awesome things could've been. So this just comes as a suggestion, make the creatures however you want and don't look at Ashan. Ashan just narrows artistic vision. And remember, visuals and creature designs first, lore second.
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kobalt
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posted March 07, 2015 02:55 PM |
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Stevie said:
Well, I think you're doing a mistake if you think that way. The thing is that what WO does is cater for Ashan, when what you did there is straight out of the old universe. And that's why it's so good, because in this pile of Ashan nonsense, that's like a breath of fresh air that proves how much more awesome things could've been. So this just comes as a suggestion, make the creatures however you want and don't look at Ashan. Ashan just narrows artistic vision. And remember, visuals and creature designs first, lore second.
Point taken, I shall ponder on that. The objective is the H3 faction none the less and I'm sticking with that. Making as it would belong in Ashan(also)and at the same time maintaining its own H3 mojo, so to say, would be a positive thing, wouldn't you agree? Thank you for your advice, man.
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kobalt
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posted March 07, 2015 03:16 PM |
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War-overlord said:
@ Kobalt: I was only making an observation. Your work resembling H3 is a good thing. If your work draws inspiration from mine, all the better for you.
But if you want to discuss the relations between our works, maybe we might want to move that to either my thread or to a newly created one.
Sure, no worries  . As amazing as your work is I don't draw inspiration from it per sè (it's not actually the appropriate term) but my ideas regarding Swamp do coincide with yours to a certain degree, I just like it when they meet. I'll start a thread at some point, we could exchange opinions there. I would very much like that.
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posted March 07, 2015 05:02 PM |
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well I do think Kobalt's art would fit into Ashan still, with not too much hassle. Imo it's a mix of old H3 looks and new Ashan looks ... And I'm a sucker for that 
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GenyaArikado
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Supreme Hero
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posted March 07, 2015 09:43 PM |
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It still looks like a well done drawing of the H3. I am sorry but i dont see any reason to use the word "design" here. No offense
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted March 07, 2015 10:39 PM |
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GenyaArikado said:
It still looks like a well done drawing of the H3. I am sorry but i dont see any reason to use the word "design" here. No offense
But is the H3 in 3D that all would have praised and loved if it has been created, little sponge.
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Pawek_13
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Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted March 07, 2015 10:42 PM |
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Edited by Pawek_13 at 22:45, 07 Mar 2015.
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Galaad said:
But is the H3 in 3D that all would have praised and loved if it has been created, little sponge.
Weren't the models in Heroes 3, before putting them into the game, created in 3D? 
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LizardWarrior
Honorable
Legendary Hero
the reckoning is at hand
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posted March 07, 2015 11:06 PM |
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yes, they were pre-rendered, what Galaad wants to say is H3 in a total 3d environment, like H5/H6/H7
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Pawek_13
Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted March 07, 2015 11:11 PM |
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LizardWarrior said:
yes, they were pre-rendered, what Galaad wants to say is H3 in a total 3d environment, like H5/H6/H7
Thank you for clarifying it.
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Sandro400
Promising
Supreme Hero
Shadow of Death
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posted March 07, 2015 11:24 PM |
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GenyaArikado said:
It still looks like a well done drawing of the H3. I am sorry but i dont see any reason to use the word "design" here. No offense
Yes, it is. It's just a drawing to H3. Which doesn't decrease it's awesomeness from pure artistical point of view.
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted March 08, 2015 12:38 AM |
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I didnt say it wasnt well done. Just that saying "design" is innacurate. He isnt designing snow. Again, no offense.
I always have loathed the fortress. Except for the basilisk and hydra. Thank goodness their chances of reapearing are slim given the orcs took their thematics (and the Wyverns, gnolls, lizardmen and if those leaked images are right, the basilisk too)
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