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Pawek_13
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Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted June 22, 2015 03:33 PM |
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the_green_drag said: Wow now that I see the sylvannas art again that green dragon looks nothing like it. Why are they so bad at their jobs? Rocky, earthy dragon with some crystals and a few branches looked awesome, then they go and make a treant Dino hybrid (jurrassic world marketing?) and they keep the same stupid head from the aweful h6 model...
And a pixie that looks like its from the classic games...oh wow cool yay the pixie looks classical, just don't look for unicorns and phoenixes, but it fits right in
Really can't wait to see Bambi's attack. Is it gonna bite!? Or is it gonna wave it's hooves at you?!
1st paragraph: We still don't know how the upgrade looks like. Maybe with age, when Green Dragons turn into Emerald Dragons, they become more... rocky? We still need to see it.
2nd paragraph: Exactly! Isn't it great that Tinkerbell-like Pixies come back?
3rd paragraph: Here you have a video of does fighting. It looks funny, doesn't it? Most probably does are going to dash and attack with their heads, just like bucks do but, well... without antlers.
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted June 22, 2015 03:36 PM |
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the_green_drag said: Wow now that I see the sylvannas art again that green dragon looks nothing like it. Why are they so bad at their jobs? Rocky, earthy dragon with some crystals and a few branches looked awesome, then they go and make a treant Dino hybrid (jurrassic world marketing?) and they keep the same stupid head from the aweful h6 model...
And a pixie that looks like its from the classic games...oh wow cool yay the pixie looks classical, just don't look for unicorns and phoenixes, but it fits right in
Really can't wait to see Bambi's attack. Is it gonna bite!? Or is it gonna wave it's hooves at you?!
That was never an artwork of the unit, but the base for the concept.. which was also stated duirng the vote.
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PROJ
Known Hero
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posted June 22, 2015 03:36 PM |
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The opinions of people here will always be kind of a joke as long as people seriously defend homm 3 as a game that's anything more than 'good for its time.'
How people can actually defend the game mechanics of that game is beyond me. Just watch a 'competitive' homm 3 match, it's hours of creeping around against AI and one battle that's already been decided with no interaction between the players.
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LizardWarrior
Honorable
Legendary Hero
the reckoning is at hand
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posted June 22, 2015 03:44 PM |
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At least an AI exists in h3, unlike h7
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Steyn
Supreme Hero
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posted June 22, 2015 03:45 PM |
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Dave_Jame said:
Count with me
H6 - Blood path finall boss
H6 DM - Dragon wrait boss
H6 SoD - Spectral Dragon
H6 SoD - Shadow Dragon
H6 SoD - Black Dragon
H7 - Bone Dragon
H7 - Spectral Dragon
Potential untl prooven wrong
H7 - Green Dragon - wingless
H7 - Emerald Dragon - Wingless
H7 - Shadow Dragon
H7 - Black Dragon
H7 - Gold Dragon
And The colored ones are nothing more then direct copies or scaled down copies of each other. Not even the freaking recolor!!!
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Do you see it, do you see the freaking number of re-uses. Fudg WoW/WH kopies and direct ports THIS IS A PROBLEM UBI,....
Now I don't think your counting is completely fair. The blood final boss is supposed to be a black dragon, so it is only logical for them to share their model. Same for the dragon wraith and spectral dragon. Moreover the spectral dragon is supposed to be an animated black dragon (the only dragon in H6), so it is not strange for them to look the same.
It is a shame they decided to reuse the model for the H7 bone dragon, but considering the H7 trend not surprising. At least they recoloured it instead of reusing almost exactly the same unit as they tried to do/did for the ghost, lamasu, vampire and lich.
I'm afraid they will indeed also reuse this model for the black dragon, but as long as they change those stupid butterfly wings I actually don't mind that much. I'd rather have them spending that money on other parts of the game (those bugs come to mind) than on a totally new dragon model.
cleglaw said: can you guys state the differences between a "treant" and a "green dragon?"
A treant is a walking plant while a green dragon is a walking rock covered in plants
I quite like this version af the green dragon and think it looks much better than the sylanna concept art. I do expect the emerald dragon to lose the shrubbery an be more crystalline though.
For those that say it looks like a dino; I was actually reminded of a dog. Maybe a bit like this guy?
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jhb
Famous Hero
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posted June 22, 2015 04:09 PM |
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Pawek_13 said:
3rd paragraph: Here you have a video of does fighting. It looks funny, doesn't it? Most probably does are going to dash and attack with their heads, just like bucks do but, well... without antlers.
She is even taking advantage of map configuration and using obstacles at 0:16, a perfect strategist I'd say.
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the_green_drag
Supreme Hero
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posted June 22, 2015 04:10 PM |
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Omg that video sums it up perfectly. That kind of attack would bring down any behemoth or black dragon.
@Dave
Yeah it's been a while, I forgot. But still with the black dragons we literally got malassa art in the form of a unit so I figured they'd do the same with the green dragon. It's just very disappointing to see that even the voted factions are getting reused models for dragons but they create new models for deer....
This gives me little to no hope for dungeon. Hydra, strider, and trogs are probably going to be the only original models on that team.
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted June 22, 2015 04:49 PM |
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the_green_drag said: Omg that video sums it up perfectly. That kind of attack would bring down any behemoth or black dragon.
You do understand we are talking about a fantasy setting and a magical creature right? Must it have smth pointy to cause damage? Use your imagination a little more.
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Steyn
Supreme Hero
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posted June 22, 2015 04:56 PM |
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I know from experience that a headbutt even from a small goat without horns can be quite unpleasant. These moon does are freaking huge, so I imagine they pack quite a punch. Still, for them to be Sylvan's strongest elite...
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Pawek_13
Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted June 22, 2015 04:58 PM |
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Steyn said: I know from experience that a headbutt even from a small goat without horns can be quite unpleasant. These moon does are freaking huge, so I imagine they pack quite a punch. Still, for them to be Sylvan's strongest elite...
This is why I consider gender swaps between upgrades to be redundant.
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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted June 22, 2015 04:59 PM |
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Adilmaru said: I am long time lurker on these forums, and I posted maybe 3-4 times here before. Today I logged in, just to say, this is the worst "fan" community that I have ever seen. Constantly bashing and whining about some nonsense, talking about some stupid things, like those Sea Elfs etc. I just want to say, if you don't like the game, then don't buy it, no one is forcing you to do so. Simple as that. But please, stop whining. Reused models and animations? So what? If that model looks nice, I don't see any problem in that. Heroes 6 gave us completely new models and animations, and it was snow of a game. These guys are clearly trying as much as they can, to give us nice and enjoyable game! Respect that at least.
You have few hive minds here, while others just repet their words...
Please, wait until game is finished, then express yourself. We all have our opinions, but it is stupid to speak about something that we haven't tryed or tryed it in really bugged state.
I wrote this from my phone, so forgive me for many mistakes.
here's your reply dude, don't spend it all in one place lol
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Wellplay
Famous Hero
Poland Stronk
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posted June 22, 2015 05:08 PM |
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Edited by Wellplay at 17:10, 22 Jun 2015.
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leiah2
Known Hero
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posted June 22, 2015 05:11 PM |
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Dryads and Hunters look really good, but I'm unsure about the pixies :/ They could be cool, but I think they are to big to be pixies.
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Steyn
Supreme Hero
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posted June 22, 2015 05:14 PM |
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Edited by Steyn at 17:17, 22 Jun 2015.
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Yay, finally the Sylvan reveal!
The hunter and pixie look really nice, dryad not so much though. I fear for a retextured H6 darkness elemental with a H6 spring spirit/glory feel to it.
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I agree that the pixies are a bit big. But weren't H3/5 pixies also quite big? I think someone here once said that the unit size is not to scale, but more of a representation of the whole stack, just like the hero on the map is a representation of the whole army.
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PandaTar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Celestial Heavens Mascot
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posted June 22, 2015 05:18 PM |
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They look quite bland and simple. Fitting for their role. Perhaps the first units that I feel that way.
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Adilmaru
Adventuring Hero
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posted June 22, 2015 05:20 PM |
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Hmmm, plesently suprised whit Dryad. We have already seen Pixie and I like then, and Hunter, as espected, great!
So, now we are playing the game, called "Guess what they reused on this creature"? Grow up...
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Wellplay
Famous Hero
Poland Stronk
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posted June 22, 2015 05:21 PM |
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Edited by Wellplay at 17:21, 22 Jun 2015.
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PandaTar said: They look quite bland and simple. Fitting for their role. Perhaps the first units that I feel that way.
Bland and simple bad, overdone and complex also bad.
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SepSpring
Known Hero
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posted June 22, 2015 05:24 PM |
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Well, Pixie has some similarities with Sister in terms of dress style.
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted June 22, 2015 05:24 PM |
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Wow! They look really good!! I'd still want a dryad smth like a water elemental coming out of the ground and totally made of wood. Being transparent and green? Not such a good idea for me but overall it, looks good,not gonna complain.
And again they seem to have a huge provlem with unit sizing and proportions. Why is that???
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Minastir
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted June 22, 2015 05:25 PM |
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For me:
The Hunter is really great, the best core for me
The dryad is quite nice, the good thing it doesn't look like the concept provided during line-up votes, maybe the upgrade could be more distinguish than not upgraded dryad
The Pixie, for me the leafy pixie was better, mediocre
The pixie and dryad are too similar creatures overall, I wish it could be something else other than one of them also with female druid and the moon bambi the faction might be like somebody on SC said, too girly
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