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Sleeping_Sun
Promising
Famous Hero
Townscreen Architect
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posted June 23, 2015 10:33 PM |
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Dave_Jame said:
Fun part is the "not official MM-H VII art" badge on the bottom of those artworks ... yea.. no major changes :-D
This!
EDIT: Ooh! 900th page! Lovely! 
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"The age can be wicked to those who walk alone. When I look into the Mirror, I see myself as I might become..." -Freya
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted June 23, 2015 10:33 PM |
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Edited by kiryu133 at 22:34, 23 Jun 2015.
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I think the problem is that the pixie has a completely different direction then was advertized. It's not bad (I really like it) but "floating, magic woman in dress" is not what we were led to expect. We were to expect a leafy, alien fairy of some sort yet we got something completely different. The dryad (and the dancer) is at least the same concept as was advertised.
Still, it's like choosing between 2 fantastic designs. Don't care, like it either way 
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted June 23, 2015 10:35 PM |
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So what you are saying is that, by some logic, we'd have things like a male druid, a blade dancer wearing armor, emerald knights riding pegasi and phoenix being painted green, all because it is "unofficial artwork" and does not rely heavily on details?
I do not approve of this. Yes, it gave us a general idea, but how will I know what I will truly be given? It was a gamble at best.
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Sleeping_Sun
Promising
Famous Hero
Townscreen Architect
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posted June 23, 2015 10:39 PM |
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@Energy
It was always a gamble, but with the unofficial pictures, it was a biased and self-misleading gamble. As simple as that. If something is not official, it means that it is susceptible to changes. That is why I do think that it would have been better if they haven't shown the pictures. But the fans demanded them and they got them.
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"The age can be wicked to those who walk alone. When I look into the Mirror, I see myself as I might become..." -Freya
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Wellplay
Famous Hero
Poland Stronk
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posted June 23, 2015 10:43 PM |
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Sleeping_Sun said:
@Energy
It was always a gamble, but with the unofficial pictures, it was a biased and self-misleading gamble. As simple as that. If something is not official, it means that it is susceptible to changes. That is why I do think that it would have been better if they haven't shown the pictures. But the fans demanded them and they got them.
Wishing no harm happens.
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted June 23, 2015 10:45 PM |
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EnergyZ said:
So what you are saying is that, by some logic, we'd have things like a male druid, a blade dancer wearing armor, emerald knights riding pegasi and phoenix being painted green, all because it is "unofficial artwork" and does not rely heavily on details?
I do not approve of this. Yes, it gave us a general idea, but how will I know what I will truly be given? It was a gamble at best.
Well acttually yes I do.
The druid could have been considered male even until now, if Marzhin wouldn't directly say "They are Female".
A blade dancer is a light armored fighter with two swords. But since Justicar is a "light armored" unit in this wolrd. They could be dressed in something like a Leather or scale armor (And skirts)
And a green pheonix is actually something I exactly expected (Green and later golden as an upgrade)
They gave us some stock images from their library since they "Did not have anything ready" for the votes. I think they underestimated that. Dungeon was a bit better. They had art for the common units for all the options (Mino, Hydra) and some raw scetches of some other units. Still that MaM VII Traglo posing as the mushroom man they are supposed to be now was funny.
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Gryphs
Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
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posted June 23, 2015 10:52 PM |
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Dave_Jame said:
And a green pheonix is actually something I directly expected (Gree and later golden as an upgrade)
But that would be going against the almighty lore.
Honestly I do not understand how this is riling people up does no one know what the unofficial artwork tags mean?
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Sleeping_Sun
Promising
Famous Hero
Townscreen Architect
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posted June 23, 2015 10:57 PM |
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Gryphs said:
Honestly I do not understand how this is riling people up does no one know what the unofficial artwork tags mean?
When there are pictures, people do not read the text.
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"The age can be wicked to those who walk alone. When I look into the Mirror, I see myself as I might become..." -Freya
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Wellplay
Famous Hero
Poland Stronk
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posted June 23, 2015 11:01 PM |
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Edited by Wellplay at 23:02, 23 Jun 2015.
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Sleeping_Sun said:
Gryphs said:
Honestly I do not understand how this is riling people up does no one know what the unofficial artwork tags mean?
When there are pictures, people do not read the text.
World is more foolish than wise.
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Raenus
Famous Hero
Grouchy curmudgeon
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posted June 23, 2015 11:04 PM |
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Edited by Raenus at 23:06, 23 Jun 2015.
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Gryphs said:
Dave_Jame said:
And a green pheonix is actually something I directly expected (Gree and later golden as an upgrade)
But that would be going against the almighty lore.
Honestly I do not understand how this is riling people up does no one know what the unofficial artwork tags mean?
First of all I started this conversation and I am far from riled, I was just curious what others thought about the changes.
Yes they say unofficial on them that is not the point, my question is not why they changed but why did they ever show them in the first place.
You act like everyone who votes actually knew this but there were SO DAMN MANY comments talking about how badash the Bladedancer was. I honestly think that the only reason Fury won was because of that single picture.
Again I personally don't have a problem with the unit designs (other than the Bladedancer which is just boring). I am not raving nor snowing. I am merely wondering why they showed those in the first place if they had nothing to do with the finished product. It was pointless and misleading to anyone who didn't take the time to read up.
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Wellplay
Famous Hero
Poland Stronk
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posted June 23, 2015 11:10 PM |
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Edited by Wellplay at 23:26, 23 Jun 2015.
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Raenus said:
Gryphs said:
Dave_Jame said:
And a green pheonix is actually something I directly expected (Gree and later golden as an upgrade)
But that would be going against the almighty lore.
Honestly I do not understand how this is riling people up does no one know what the unofficial artwork tags mean?
First of all I started this conversation and I am far from riled, I was just curious what others thought about the changes.
Yes they say unofficial on them that is not the point, my question is not why they changed but why did they ever show them in the first place.
You act like everyone who votes actually knew this but there were SO DAMN MANY comments talking about how badash the Bladedancer was. I honestly think that the only reason Fury won was because of that single picture.
Again I personally don't have a problem with the unit designs (other than the Bladedancer which is just boring). I am not raving nor snowing. I am merely wondering why they showed those in the first place if they had nothing to do with the finished product. It was pointless and misleading to anyone who didn't take the time to read up.
Democracy 
Edit: Devs did not bother including artworks at first expecting people know how units look like. But than vocal majority happend not knowing jack **** about how unit looks like ended with us having this conversation.
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leiah2
Known Hero
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posted June 23, 2015 11:25 PM |
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Edited by leiah2 at 23:26, 23 Jun 2015.
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I understood that they were not official art pieces but one would think that when a picture, such as the one of the Bladedancer that got such an immense ammount of positive comments they would not change it all to much. 
Edit: Ugh, soz for weird spelling, I'm really tired at the moment.
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Gryphs
Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
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posted June 23, 2015 11:29 PM |
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Edited by Gryphs at 23:29, 23 Jun 2015.
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Raenus said:
You act like everyone who votes actually knew this
They should have it is not hard to read. Let me be clear I was never accusing you I am accusing all the fools on the SC who voted without reading and are now complaining. Yes, the pictures were pointless and miss leading but they were there, and it was the voters duty to be informed. Forgive me for sounding pretentious, but they have no right to be unhappy they brought it upon themselves.
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Sleeping_Sun
Promising
Famous Hero
Townscreen Architect
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posted June 23, 2015 11:29 PM |
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@Raenus
The fans wanted pictures to see some new units that appeared (snake, emerald knight, etc.) so that they know for what they vote. However, there were no official artworks at the time, so they just showed some old stuff to satisfy the fans. But they only managed to create delusion among the voting population. Many were drooling at the picture of Blade Dancer thinking that that is what they'll get, while they disregarded others thinking that they are trash.
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It was pointless and misleading to anyone who didn't take the time to read up.
No time was needed if one looked at the picture, because they also contained the text "not official artwork". So once again, it is not really Ubi's fault.
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted June 23, 2015 11:35 PM |
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Raenus said:
You act like everyone who votes actually knew this but there were SO DAMN MANY comments talking about how badash the Bladedancer was. I honestly think that the only reason Fury won was because of that single picture.
Fury winning shows that the franchise has more young and new fans than old ones. And although it may was hype,don't forget that this hype backfired in the ugliest way possible and 1000 faces won for dungeon.if it wasn't for the medusa-hype,ashan dungeon would have been saved in my eyes.
Back on topic,lets wait for the official blade dancer art. But to be honest i wanted my blade dancer giving me some kitana realness.
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leiah2
Known Hero
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posted June 23, 2015 11:40 PM |
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This would have made for a really cool Phoenix in my opinion.
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Pawek_13
Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted June 23, 2015 11:42 PM |
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leiah2 said:
This would have made for a really cool Phoenix in my opinion.
They promised that if Phoenix had been elected, his upgrade would be golden. Since there are no Phoenixes, then there's no possibility for a golden one.
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Sleeping_Sun
Promising
Famous Hero
Townscreen Architect
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posted June 23, 2015 11:43 PM |
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ChrisD1 said:
Fury winning shows that the franchise has more young and new fans than old ones. And although it may was hype,don't forget that this hype backfired in the ugliest way possible and 1000 faces won for dungeon.if it wasn't for the medusa-hype,ashan dungeon would have been saved in my eyes.
Back on topic,lets wait for the official blade dancer art. But to be honest i wanted my blade dancer giving me some kitana realness.
I do not think that we know if there are more new fans or old fans. Nowadays, many old fans have given up on Ubi's Heroes despite briefly following the news. We do not even know how many old fans didn't even vote at all, and how many voted for fury for some other reason (mind you there were calculations at that time, such as, do not let fury/strength/balance win for X reason vote for its opposite). Plus, what's wrong with 1000 faces dungeon? If it is ok if people are hyped for 1 unit, why is it bad if another unit also receives the hype? It's really weird logic.
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"The age can be wicked to those who walk alone. When I look into the Mirror, I see myself as I might become..." -Freya
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leiah2
Known Hero
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posted June 23, 2015 11:45 PM |
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Pawek_13 said:
They promised that if Phoenix had been elected, his upgrade would be golden. Since there are no Phoenixes, then there's no possibility for a golden one.
I know. Just sayin'.
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Gryphs
Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
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posted June 23, 2015 11:55 PM |
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ChrisD1 said:
Fury winning shows that the franchise has more young and new fans than old ones. And although it may was hype,don't forget that this hype backfired in the ugliest way possible and 1000 faces won for dungeon.if it wasn't for the medusa-hype,ashan dungeon would have been saved in my eyes.
That is utterly subjective.
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