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alcibiades
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posted October 23, 2014 10:17 PM |
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Elvin said:
If earth dragons look like Sylanna, it's not a stretch to get red dragons looking like Arkath. But magmazillas are way cooler 
That would be the obvious conclusion, yes, that a proper Red Dragon now would sit with the Dwarfs, if anywhere. I did like the Magma dragons however, but obviously Green Dragons take that role now.
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Elvin
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posted October 23, 2014 10:26 PM |
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@moonshade
At first I saw cultist and I was like meh. Then I saw demonic transformation and I liked  A melee-dominated core with limited ranged power might be interesting..
I'm not sure the lilim needs a transformation ability, its incubus mechanics could well be incorporated into the first unit.
I kinda prefer efreet as melee chargers, being fast and flyers  I'd love a fire ring activated ability on them, to punish those who gang up on them.
Chaos knight is cool, I liked that blog artwork.
I don't like abyssal worms, they are just overgrown scaly worms. They seem like a less interesting version of the magma dragon visually and thematically.. they fail to capture my interest. I'd like them as a warmachine but not as part of the lineup.
Breeders as warmachines.. This is a brilliant idea! Imagine if they reinforced demon units as per the H6 reinforcements ability. Raise the stack size a bit, calculate casualties after the extra units perish. This would also work great with their proliferation theme even if some suspension of disbelief was required ^^
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Maurice
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posted October 24, 2014 08:59 AM |
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Edited by Maurice at 08:59, 24 Oct 2014.
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I just thought of a nice creature for the lineup: Cultists that summon demons. They are a Core unit and have their standard attack and such, but as a special ability, they can summon powerful demons. This requires some of them to be sacrificed and the number of summoned demons depends on the number of Cultists. As long as the summoned demons remain, the Cultists can't do anything and are vulnerable to attack. Perhaps even make it so that when the Cultists die during the battle, the number of summoned demons decreases accordingly.
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Stevie
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posted October 24, 2014 11:49 AM |
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I think it's a good idea, but probably resembling the Gating ability a bit too much. What if you just gave those Cultists a summoning spell to summon some type of elemental demon? Maybe you can introduce the Efreet that way. So instead of having only 3 cores/3 elite, you can potentially have 4 cores or 4 elites depending how you scale the Efreet. I think it's a pretty good idea, that works with the summonable character of djinn elements, and you're not forced to introduce another gating ability as for another demon.
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Storm-Giant
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On the Other Side!
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posted October 24, 2014 12:06 PM |
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Dragons in Inferno is the least the game needs.
But who really cares if Inferno has already lost the vote 
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted October 24, 2014 12:08 PM |
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Storm-Giant said:
Dragons in Inferno is the least the game needs.
Agreed,
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But who really cares if Inferno has already lost the vote
I won^t be sure until last day.
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War-overlord
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Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted October 24, 2014 12:30 PM |
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Galaad said:
Storm-Giant said:
But who really cares if Inferno has already lost the vote
I won^t be sure until last day.
Whereas I agree with Galaad, I'm very tempted to say Storm is equally correct.
The vote has been in roughly the same percentage-deadlock since day 2.
There was a minor increase for Dungeon on the day the info on the faction came out, but that went back down to the original deadlock in a day and a half after the info on Inferno came.
Dungeon has been in the lead since day 1 and has been keeping that lead throughout. Very similar to the Sylvan <> Fortress vote. I ain't a betting man, but I'm willing to bet on Dungeon.
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JeremiahEmo
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posted October 24, 2014 12:48 PM |
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GenyaArikado said:
jeremiahemo said:
How about this?
Core
1. Gog -> Magog
2. Hellhound -> Cerberus
3. Succubus -> Lilim
Elite
4. Pit Spawn -> Pit Lord
5. Incubus -> Cambion
6. Red Stallion -> Nightmare
Champion
7. Devil -> Red Devil
8. Red Dragon -> Ruby Dragon
This is the dullest, worst, most uninspired lineup ever. Gog/magog is redudant with the superior succubus there and so is the incubus.
ok. Let's kick weak, boring, overused Succubus out then and replace them with Imp/Familiar. Problem solved.
Oh and Red Dragon best fits Inferno. Fortress Dragons should be Orange Dragon -> Amber Dragon. 
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted October 24, 2014 01:01 PM |
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Edited by Galaad at 13:01, 24 Oct 2014.
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JeremiahEmo said:
ok. Let's kick weak, boring, overused Succubus out then and replace them with Imp/Familiar. Problem solved.
I disagree.
I could see Succubus as a female replacement for Gog, and unlike you I don't see any problem here.
Familiars should be in instead of those horrible maniacs we had in H6.
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GenyaArikado
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Supreme Hero
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posted October 24, 2014 02:21 PM |
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JeremiahEmo said:
GenyaArikado said:
jeremiahemo said:
How about this?
Core
1. Gog -> Magog
2. Hellhound -> Cerberus
3. Succubus -> Lilim
Elite
4. Pit Spawn -> Pit Lord
5. Incubus -> Cambion
6. Red Stallion -> Nightmare
Champion
7. Devil -> Red Devil
8. Red Dragon -> Ruby Dragon
This is the dullest, worst, most uninspired lineup ever. Gog/magog is redudant with the superior succubus there and so is the incubus.
ok. Let's kick weak, boring, overused Succubus out then and replace them with Imp/Familiar. Problem solved.
Oh and Red Dragon best fits Inferno. Fortress Dragons should be Orange Dragon -> Amber Dragon.
no i got a superior, better designed lineup
Core
Empusa/Demented Empusa > corrupted female elves, melee,similar to the maniac
Pandora/Erisyan Pandora > corruptes female humans ranged unit, steals mana, looks like a witch
Juggernaut/Ravager > corrupted male humans, same as h6
Elite
Lamia/ Devourer Lamia> corrupted female naga, can "eat" stacks
Succubus/Lilim > same as h6
Breeder/Mother Breeder >same as h6
Champion
Fallen seraph/Graceless celestial > Sarah as an unit
Pit Lady/Abbyss Empress > Deleb servants, torture ability.
This is a much better, original lineup without stupid poorly designed units like the lacerator, imp and gog, reworks units into better concepts like maniac>empusa and we get finally good champion units instead of those UGLY DESIGNED pit lords which are just the worst unit in the game
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JeremiahEmo
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posted October 24, 2014 02:54 PM |
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Galaad said:
JeremiahEmo said:
ok. Let's kick weak, boring, overused Succubus out then and replace them with Imp/Familiar. Problem solved.
I disagree.
I could see Succubus as a female replacement for Gog, and unlike you I don't see any problem here.
Familiars should be in instead of those horrible maniacs we had in H6.
Unlike you, I also have no problem scratching out Succubus.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted October 24, 2014 03:33 PM |
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JeremiahEmo said:
Unlike you, I also have no problem scratching out Succubus.
I don't mind scratching out Succubus, personally I prefer the Magog. Although without being a feminist I enjoy female creatures in the lineups 
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jackson
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Random Spirit Lover
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posted October 24, 2014 03:50 PM |
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JeremiahEmo said:
ok. Let's kick weak, boring, overused Succubus out then and replace them with Imp/Familiar. Problem solved.
JeremiahEmo said:
Unlike you, I also have no problem scratching out Succubus.
Wow! I am so surprised! You don't like the Succubus? You want to replace the Succubus with an Incubus? You're hurling around ridiculous insults at yet another female?
For god's sake, please stop attacking every female in the game.
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JeremiahEmo
Bad-mannered
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posted October 24, 2014 04:07 PM |
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^ see my original lineup Jackson. 
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jackson
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Random Spirit Lover
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posted October 24, 2014 04:21 PM |
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I already saw it - I read all the posts here in the Heroes 7 forum - and I was responding to that as well, which was fairly obvious.
JeremiahEmo said:
ok. Let's kick weak, boring, overused Succubus out then . . .
Following a long, proud tradition of insulting and attacking every female in the game.
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Kimarous
Supreme Hero
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posted October 24, 2014 06:04 PM |
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Speaking of long traditions, let's stop with the "JE doesn't like females" argument and instead talk about something else.
So... Pit Lords! Champion or Elite? Do you even care where they get placed as long as they remain similar to their last appearance?
Also, I don't know about anyone else, but I've never particularly cared about Devils. They always strike me as just "bigger, badder demons" and lack the distinctiveness that something like a Pit Lord has, hence why I favour it for Champion.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted October 24, 2014 06:07 PM |
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Kimarous said:
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So... Pit Lords! Champion or Elite?
Champion !
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RMZ1989
Supreme Hero
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posted October 24, 2014 06:55 PM |
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Kimarous said:
Speaking of long traditions, let's stop with the "JE doesn't like females" argument and instead talk about something else.
So... Pit Lords! Champion or Elite? Do you even care where they get placed as long as they remain similar to their last appearance?
Also, I don't know about anyone else, but I've never particularly cared about Devils. They always strike me as just "bigger, badder demons" and lack the distinctiveness that something like a Pit Lord has, hence why I favour it for Champion.
Well, with their appearance, animations and abilities, they definitely deserve champion spot.
Devils aren't really done well in any of the games(especially not in H4, they were horrible there) and I think that they got a lot of potential.
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Elvin
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posted October 24, 2014 07:09 PM |
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Champions for sure! H6 pitlords were one of the most awesome champions ever designed I also really really liked the H3 archdevils, they were fun on so many levels. Yes inferno is a brutal faction but I think its champions should be more tricky than plain destructive. And if abyssal lords are the new devils I am hoping their role in the battlefield would be mroe subtle than a slaughtering machine. That is better suited for stronghold's champions
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Stevie
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posted October 24, 2014 07:21 PM |
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Champions for sure. Although they should also be spellcasters like in Heroes V. And about Arch-Devils, I agree they should fill a more tactical role than just straight rush.
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