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posted October 08, 2017 10:39 PM |
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No. Plastic surgeon. It's a BUSINESS: As in CAPITALISM.
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posted October 08, 2017 11:08 PM |
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Not what the article was about. Eccentric people pay from their pockets for that type of surgery, their livelihood does not depend on it. With transgender operations it's entirely different, reason why her insurance covered it.
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posted October 08, 2017 11:24 PM |
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That's what I said. Business thing.
But that's not why juvenile girls sudenly feel like a gender change. That's probably more down to internet medical diagnosis bullcrap.
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posted October 09, 2017 01:19 AM |
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posted October 09, 2017 05:24 PM |
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You should be careful what you believe on the internet. If the article isn't actually telling you what studies it is referring to, you should be wary. You should also be wary of articles that make very broad and sweeping conclusions from just one or two studies.
One of the early statements should throw a red flag:
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And the most surprising link is that not only do we barely absorb the calcium in cow’s milk (especially if pasteurized), but to make matters worse, it actually increases calcium loss from the bones. What an irony this is!
Irony indeed. If you do a Google Scholar search for "calcium absorption in milk", you can see this is blatantly not true. The first few scientific studies I checked out the absorption percentage at about 30%.
E.g., this one from NEJM.
Nutritional science is difficult, because of the number of factors involved. It's also extremely easy to cherry pick data/studies, and the laymen's landscape is rife with quacks and people with strange agendas.
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posted October 09, 2017 07:08 PM |
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In regards to nutrition a major one for me was quacks claiming that reheating spinach is poisonous (which i heard repeated by close associates so i believed it for a long time). Yes it can be depending on a number of factors, but to keep it short there's absolutely no danger of reheating spinach under normal circumstances, it's one of those things u can only fk up if you try really hard (not even then though)
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posted October 09, 2017 08:05 PM |
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@Corribus,
Well, the reason why I linked the article was not because I believed it held nothing but the truth, but because I thought it was interesting nonetheless. I am not completely decided on the issue, but I have heard some similar claims even in academic circles and, however skeptical I am, I must give them some credit. The thing I am fairly convinced about is the part where it says that processing milk is not something adult bodies are naturally endowed to do, or rather it is a mutation of the gene responsible for lactase production which should switch off after children are weaned but doesn't do so. At any rate, I think it's worth knowing as much as possible about nutritional "facts" like that. I for one don't drink milk, but consume a lot of yogurt products.
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posted October 10, 2017 04:43 AM |
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Personally, I don't see any article that spreads misleading information to the public as being interesting.
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that processing milk is not something adult bodies are naturally endowed to do
What does this even mean?
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posted October 10, 2017 05:15 AM |
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Corribus said:
What does this even mean?
It means that human infants have a gene that is able to process lactose, which is the main sugar found milk. At a certain point in their development this gene shuts off and thus human adults are not able to eat milk without having their digestive bacteria throwing a happy gassy riot at all the free sugar.
About 10,000 years ago at the dawn of agriculture and animal husbandry one lucky caucasian had a mutation that permitted this lactose processing gene to continue functioning into adulthood. This meant that they could now eat cow milk. He was presumably quite the success story and probably had a lot of descendants. THe gene was so advantageous that anybody who had it got a leg up on people who didn't. This ability to convert grass into sugar, fat, and protein via a cow is one of the major factors in the expansion of the ancestors of the indo-europeans.
So what if you didn't have this gene and you wanted to convert grass into sugar, fat, and protein? You had to take an extra step and convert the milk into yogurt, cheese, or some other type of fermented milk product. This meant exposing the milk to cultures that ate the lactose and crapped out things that we could eat, like lactic acid or various other organic compounds.
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posted October 10, 2017 05:57 AM |
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A lot of historical and scientific speculation, but in any case that's now what I meant at all. I meant, what does "naturally endowed" mean? It's a nonsense phrase.
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posted October 10, 2017 10:53 AM |
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posted October 11, 2017 12:19 PM |
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posted October 20, 2017 02:15 PM |
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The Parthenon of Books, built in Germany, is made of 100,000 banned volumes, from “Tom Sawyer” to “The Satanic Verses” by Stefan A
...and the guys at CERN say the universe should not exist according to their math. Don't you just love science! The place (universe, not the lab) always gave me the creeps anyway.
The universe shouldn't exist, scientists say after finding bizarre behaviour of anti-matter by Andrew Griffin
"All of our observations find a complete symmetry between matter and antimatter, which is why the universe should not actually exist," explained Christian Smorra, the author of a new study conducted at CERN."An asymmetry must exist here somewhere but we simply do not understand where the difference is. What is the source of the symmetry break?" The latest possibility was matter and anti-matter's different magnetism. But new research shows that they are identical in that way too – lending further mystery to the question of why the universe is still around at all.
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posted October 25, 2017 07:16 AM |
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They need a pay so let's justify it, no matter how crap it sounds: let's speculate that symmetry is bad. But before, lets cover our scientific ears because some other scientists do some annoying noise, claiming exactly the opposite.
They are all wrong, god did the universe. Then mad invented god. God paradox. 
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posted October 25, 2017 08:11 AM |
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They are not wrong, they are incomplete (as they have always been). 
This might have something to do with the fact we exist, although we shouldn't. Particles that are their own anti-particles look they might explain why the "creation", however it came to pass, didn't end in a bigger bang.
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It's interesting, but I believe that they're assuming Big Bang cosmology too much. And I doubt that it'll ultimately answer the question of existence. They might discover some interesting laws and mechanisms governing antimatter, but it seems unlikely to me that this might be the final destination for our ontological questions.
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posted October 25, 2017 10:22 AM |
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Salamandre said:
But before, lets cover our scientific ears because some other scientists do some annoying noise, claiming exactly the opposite
I don't think this article claims the opposite. It's talking about exactly the same problem but with a less attention-grabbing phrasing. Matter and anti-matter cancel each other out, transforming into energy but there is an unexplained asymmetric break out which resulted in a small portion of matter to survive, that small portion IS everything material that we observe. This is what your article says also:
Antimatter particles share the same mass as their matter counterparts, but qualities such as electric charge are opposite. The positively charged positron, for example, is the antiparticle to the negatively charged electron. Matter and antimatter particles are always produced as a pair and, if they come in contact, annihilate one another, leaving behind pure energy. During the first fractions of a second of the Big Bang, the hot and dense universe was buzzing with particle-antiparticle pairs popping in and out of existence. If matter and antimatter are created and destroyed together, it seems the universe should contain nothing but leftover energy.
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posted October 25, 2017 01:13 PM |
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There is always the option that the premise is wrong.
In this case, one option is that matter and anti-matter do not ALWAYS cancel each other out, that's why I linked to the Majorana-Particles.
Another is, that the cosmological model we have is severely flawed due to incomplete or even false information and due to the gravitational pull established models have in the world of science. Keep in mind that this is fairly standard.
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posted October 25, 2017 01:43 PM |
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Well JJ, I guess we can all, including the scientists themselves, pretty much agree they are missing out on something, since the existence of the universe is an assumption that all of us take for granted, lol. Which made me wonder, does one consider "universe exists" as a falsifiable statement, even if only hypothetically...
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posted October 25, 2017 02:21 PM |
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artu said:
Well JJ, I guess we can all, including the scientist themselves, pretty much agree they are missing out on something, since the existence of the universe is an assumption that all of us take for granted, lol. Which made me wonder, does one consider "universe exists" as a falsifiable statement, even if only hypothetically...
Well, yes, they miss out on SOMETHING (as they ever did), but as we know, this SOMETHING may actually be a lot, and may especially mean that the whole model is COMPLETELY (in a fundamentally important way) wrong.
It doesn't make sense to doubt the existence of what we call "universe", however, there may be different "qualities" of "existence". For example, with space and time being relative and variables, there might exist something outside of space and time, and something outside of space and time would certainly have a different "quality" of existence.
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