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Ben80
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posted March 05, 2022 08:35 PM |
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AlexSpl said:
The US and Russia can't wage war, even nuclear, against one another thanks to (OK, thanks God really) the distance between them. You can't just carpet-bomb the whole territory and claim victory physically not having troops there. So, the US is safe as always have been, but you can't say so about the EU. Here a close contact is possible, making every decision to be the last.
But if the Americans place nuclear weapons very close to Russia, then this will be a prerequisite for nuclear war. Then it turns out that Putin is trying to prevent a nuclear war.
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AlexSpl
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posted March 05, 2022 08:37 PM |
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Are the facts about the bombing of Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki by the Americans also propaganda?
These were always considered as war crimes. But in case we'll never forget, we are bound to continue these "war games" while could have just enjoyed our short lives on this planet Earth.
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Ben80
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posted March 05, 2022 08:41 PM |
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AlexSpl said:
These were always considered as war crimes. But in case we'll never forget, we are bound to continue these "war games" while could have just enjoy our short lives on this planet Earth.
I'm just using it as an argument. It’s just that when accusations are made by countries whose hands are stained with blood, there is always the opportunity to remind. In my opinion, this is correct.
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gatecrasher
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posted March 05, 2022 08:45 PM |
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Is the swollen-faced lunatic going to direct the nuclear warheads he threatened to use strictly against military targets?
Did Russian scientists invent a special kind of foil to confine the radiactive contamination? Will they deploy it at the site of a nuclear attack?
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Ben80
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posted March 05, 2022 08:49 PM |
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No need to be so nervous  . Although I understand that the truth is an unpleasant thing (especially the truth that you try not to think about and ignore).
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gatecrasher
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posted March 05, 2022 08:50 PM |
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Ben80 said:
No need to be so nervous . Although I understand that the truth is an unpleasant thing (especially the truth that you try not to think about and ignore).
Don't teach me about thinking. You are a parrot of the swollen-faced lunatic.
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Salamandre
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posted March 05, 2022 08:51 PM |
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@gatecrasher
Well, you keep parroting same things, yet there is no evidence Putin wanted to destroy a nuclear plant, neither he did it. What about you answer to Ben's arguments one by one before demonstrating by your own rant the brainwashing is on both sides, as you exactly said?
As for using nuclear weapons, he said "our deterrence force is placed on readiness, following aggressive yelling from EU countries"
That hardly means I will fire a nuclear bomb at you. Is just "are you sure you want it, look at what I have"?
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AlexSpl
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posted March 05, 2022 08:57 PM |
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Edited by AlexSpl at 20:59, 05 Mar 2022.
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To threaten with deploying nuclear weapons is never a good idea. This is terrorist's tactics. But you know how such threats end (with rare exceptions). Nuclear weapons should be an argument against agression and never to prevent others to stop aggression.
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posted March 05, 2022 08:57 PM |
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I'll just stop discussing with imbeciles. Can't think what came over me when I thought I could change anything for the better via internet discussions.
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Titanfall2020
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posted March 05, 2022 09:14 PM |
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War would be ended in 1 hour if Zelensky vowed Ukraine wouldn't become a NATO nation. Instead the war pigs and billionaire media are perpetuating the war, ramping up propaganda causing low info political npcs that we should effectively start WW3. They're willing to arm the outmanned and outgunned Ukrainian citizens to go get blown up in an unwinnable war.
Zelensky doesn't serve his people, he serves the WEF. This war will be perpetuated to impoverish WEF citizens in western nations with sanctions, and paint everyone who criticizes their corruption as Putin puppets, much in the same way the billionaire media slandered the same demographic as anti-vaxxers, fascists, and Russian assets for the past 5 years while covering up their crimes.
Edit: Furthmore. To prevent this from happening, get rid of WEF puppets and watermelons (Green activists) from public office so that we become energy independent again, rather than crippling ourselves with high costs and being reliant on dictator oil.
Too much truth for the watermelons and low info npcs to hear though. Nothing is going to stop the WEF from further crippling us, not even if it means funding Putin and Xi's war machine by buying oil we could produce ourselves.
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AlexSpl
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posted March 05, 2022 09:16 PM |
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And I still think that what he have now isn't a point of no return. We still have a chance to bring back the world as we knew it, damaged but not yet dead.
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Ghost
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posted March 05, 2022 09:26 PM |
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Quite we don't know what suidice bomber thinks nukes..
And then stop using a currency.. I read that Russia is destroyed.. Weak armies.. I'm disagreed, because of propaganda..
Sad!
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AlexSpl
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posted March 05, 2022 09:42 PM |
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Well, you can't know where is the truth hiding when fear captured minds. Someone said here that it had already been killed. But you can't kill the truth really, she always returns to the Tavern  What can we do to help resolve this conflict? First, if negotiations are still an option we should give up our pride and try to find a compromiss. Second, if it's possible, the UN ought to investigate all Russia's claims about violations of human rights in the Eastern Ukraine. And mind, every country has its pride, now it's not the time to blame, it's time to stop suffering.
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JollyJoker
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posted March 05, 2022 11:28 PM |
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All beside the point.
At this point Russia has lost, even if they "win" the war in Ukraine. Why? As long as Putin is chief dictator of Eussia the West simply won't deal with Russia. Why? Because a treaty with Putin is worth nothing. He lies, he breaks treaties.
So Russia is out of everything.
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Ghost
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posted March 05, 2022 11:50 PM |
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When USSR was been sanction.. Later on breadline.. and the last country became Russia.. Maybe Russia thinks more durable, if Russia is modern USSR, because law against religion, speech, etc and built a army force, etc are the same USSR.. But true Russia goes to North Korea, because of modern goods affected different economic.. Only China, Brazil, India, etc can help Russia.. If they don't need a Western economic, but US has experiences with sanctions, thus US can't give/allow a goods to Russia.. It's last war.. Now's Russia between West..
News told that Putin said all is ok with plan, but Putin said Russia doesn't go to state of war and Russia can't accept air ban in Ukraine..
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Salamandre
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posted March 06, 2022 12:28 AM |
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JollyJoker said:
All beside the point.He lies, he breaks treaties. So Russia is out of everything.
So far, treaties between Russia and France were always broken by France, read the Mistral affair. And now, there has been a lot of gesticulation and threats about France "destroying Russia economy", just to have 3 days later all economists and analysts coming out and warn that under such conditions, France will be snowed in 2 months while Russia can hold 2 years. Then there is China backing Russia, basically a new alliance is designing.
This war is NOT our war.
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AlexSpl
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posted March 06, 2022 01:01 AM |
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You know, I was taught in school that this world is structured and ordered. But after the historical fail of the UN to enforce what it was created for, I doubt that someone will believe in that anything is under their control. All we see is that they can't even enforce what the majority of the UN members voted for. Why do we need them then, if they aren't able to enforce their own laws?
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PutinsMother
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posted March 06, 2022 01:10 AM |
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@Ben80
The USSR didn't have a large air force (comparatively speaking) in the early 1940s, let alone adapting and outfitting it for carpet bombings, which requires training, resources, lots of money, etc. The ethics weren't the reason. Over a million people died in gulags within the next 10 years lol.
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AlexSpl
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posted March 06, 2022 01:11 AM |
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I strongly believe that including Ukraine in NATO could stop this war, but it's also transparent that NATO intel knew about Russia's plans and choose to not check for strength their Article 5.
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Celfious
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posted March 06, 2022 01:48 AM |
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I wonder if putin and kim jumg un got.together for a joke session
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