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fred79
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posted May 08, 2022 04:04 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
living in a country ruled by criminals where the people lose every day more freedom and rights.
this coming from a pro-globalist. the irony is off the goddamn charts. this post right here broke irony records.
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posted May 08, 2022 05:27 PM |
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Ben80 said:
An impudent American ...
As wrong as the rest of your ramblings.
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we will not destroy our own country (no matter how much you want it).
You've already come a long way doing just that.
fred79 said:
JollyJoker said:
living in a country ruled by criminals where the people lose every day more freedom and rights.
this coming from a pro-globalist. the irony is off the goddamn charts. this post right here broke irony records.
You should know meanwhile that I'm pro-globalist only as a by-product. What I am is anti-nationalist, anti-border, anti-religious and anti-everything that divides people into different categories with different values.
Open borders and free trade on a global level are obviously necessary when we want humans to be ONE PEOPLE which we already are in negative things. A nuclear desaster will affect ALL people as well as a climate desaster, a resource shortage, a virus and so on, and an economic recession in one of the bigger countries will affect others as well.
If you have a different view, a PATRIOTIC one, fine, but in that case you are just part of a group of human dinosaurs who are too blind to see they are already extinct.
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fred79
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posted May 08, 2022 07:16 PM |
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human beings are different, the same as animals. each animal of it's own species has it's own personality. there are groups of personalities, and different cultures have different values.
your(and the globalists) notion that we will all be one, is beyond absurd; it's insane and utterly retarded. different races, different cultures, and different classes of people.
where does class fit into YOUR plans, genius? how do you see the eventual divide?
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posted May 08, 2022 07:38 PM |
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Looks like you piss on your constitution then that proclaims all are created equal, doesn't it?
What about that, before coming to class?
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fred79
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posted May 08, 2022 09:32 PM |
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our forefathers would snow-slap most Americans today for letting the states get this snowed up, hang all the traitors, exterminate the illegal immigrant invasion, and guard our borders with military force. they also would never put up with the globalist agenda, or 99% of today's bs. your side embraces tyranny, which is the polar opposite of American values. now answer the question.
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JollyJoker
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posted May 08, 2022 09:56 PM |
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No, YOU answer it! You basically confirmed that you piss on your constitution. You probably don't even understand it. And presuming that you of all people know what "your forefathers" would have done ...
You are just totally, utterly clueless.
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fred79
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posted May 08, 2022 10:16 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
No, YOU answer it! You basically confirmed that you piss on your constitution. You probably don't even understand it. And presuming that you of all people know what "your forefathers" would have done ...
You are just totally, utterly clueless.
nice arguement you have there. i wish i had the absence of mind, like you, to ignore a question and retort with fantasies i pull out of my ass, then expect someone else to answer their own question, and then pretend i am mentally sound; and discussing something like an adult.
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JollyJoker
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posted May 08, 2022 10:21 PM |
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The argument is you piss on your constitution. And you've confirmed it. You "patriot", you.
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fred79
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posted May 08, 2022 10:24 PM |
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the question was, "how does class fit into your 'one society with one mind' future"?
i'm waiting.
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JollyJoker
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posted May 08, 2022 10:40 PM |
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The question was whether you piss on ypur constitutiuon and its claim that all people are created equal:
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human beings are different, the same as animals. each animal of it's own species has it's own personality. there are groups of personalities, and different cultures have different values.
your(and the globalists) notion that we will all be one, is beyond absurd; it's insane and utterly retarded. different races, different cultures, and different classes of people.
where does class fit into YOUR plans, genius? how do you see the eventual divide?
Your USA IS already the world because so many people of so many different countries live there. If they can live with each other in the US they can do it globally- Especially since they are all created equal.
And then you come with Quote:
our forefathers would snow-slap most Americans today for letting the states get this snowed up, hang all the traitors, exterminate the illegal immigrant invasion, and guard our borders with military force. they also would never put up with the globalist agenda, or 99% of today's bs. your side embraces tyranny, which is the polar opposite of American values. now answer the question.
which says, "yes, I piss on the constitution because I know that the forefathers would have pissed on it as well".
Don't you realize how utterly not credible you are?
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fred79
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posted May 08, 2022 11:35 PM |
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why are you continually avoiding a simple question? did you not factor that answer in to your globalist utopia? has it never even crossed your mind?
here, i'll help you: you don't "know" the answer to that question, because your precious globalists and their media haven't told you HOW class will factor in. sit on that for a minute, and let that sink in.
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purerogue
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posted May 08, 2022 11:38 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
not credible
=incredible
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Galaad
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posted May 09, 2022 12:19 AM |
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Stop derailing the thread and get back on topic or I start a penalty spree.
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CountBezuhoff
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posted May 09, 2022 01:02 AM |
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Ben80 said:
JollyJoker said:
For the last time. USSR is not Russia and vice versa.
You did not understand. Someday there will be a big socialist state again. Only Russia was able to create this at the beginning of the 20th century. Many European states tried (Germany, Hungary, Spain and others) - but only we succeeded. So, someday it will work again.
Radio Yerevan was asked: "Would it be possible to bring Socialism to the Sahara?"
"Yes," replied Radio Yerevan, "But after the first five year plan, we'll have to import sand."
The Count
PS: Hopefully tomorrow is rather uneventful and there isn't a further escalation by the Russians.
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Salamandre
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posted May 09, 2022 02:28 AM |
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How Russia being socialist was a good thing? One of the richest and largest empire now having the GDP of Korea and Brazil, way behind resource midgets as Germany, Italy or France?
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posted May 09, 2022 03:44 AM |
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Russia today is definitely not socialist. And that was the whole point if you would remember. USSR was wold's second superpower with greater steel production than any country and better heavy industry, and was destroyed by Pro-USA yeltsin neoliberal policies and the appeaser Gorbachov.- Still, Russia retains from USSR times the ability to create nuclear icebreakers (only country), manned space stations (debatable if USA even can now), functional orbital rockets with human cargo (just them and Musk), etc. which are definitely things Korea or Brazil can't do. And in some cases (such as supersonic nuclear missiles) that USA can't do either. Putin has threatened that any open interference will bring about the usage of these dreaded weapons and that's why not even the most warmongering of the western states voices dared suggest that NATO fully step in.
Russian GDP is deflated due to low exchange rate. GPD (Purchasing Power Parity) shows that Russian economy is as big as Germany's. Considering german econiomy wasn't completely obliterated in the 90's, and is the strongest of Europe, that isn't that bad.
The westerners have a weird fetish of both overestimating and underestimating Russia. At the same time it's this giant invincible threat, that will overrun the world; and everywhere are russian spies, russian bots, russian misinformation, russian hackers, that can even choose US president. On the other hand it's a poor backwards country? These things aren't compatible.
Yes Russia is big, but most of that territory is inhospitable and barely inhabited Siberian wastes. Over two thirds of Russian population is in the "small" european part (that even then constitues 40% of Europe's land area). And even then Russian population is not that big. It's less than half USA population and a significant part (around a quarter) are muslims; Russia is not an homogeneous "baddy" made of clones (or "orcs" as ukranian nationalists want to call it), it's a multicultural and mutiethnical country, significantly more diverse than USA itself due to the multiple native languages and large minority religion. Also, it's significantly more tolerant at least in the 20th century. USA had total apartheid well into the 60's and beyond, Russia didn't have segregation.
On the military front, pro-NATO commentators like to stress how much "Russia is about to collapse due to public opinion", but actually Putin's popularity has jumped from "just" 60% (vs biden's around 40) to over 80% due to the war. Reservists haven't been mobilized, of which there are around a million. Russia is facing over 600,000 ukranian forces (not counting new conscripts mobilizing the entire military age ukranian population that are barred exit from the country by zeliski) with just around 200,000 professional troops up to now. Russia still has vast, untapped military potential and plenty of political stamina. Will it suffice to achieve the war goals? With the whole of US and Europe backing Azovites, nobody can say. It is true that every day the combined output of the "western war" into the war is greater than what Russia can economically muster. But there is more to war than just economy and this is a fight of military doctrines and Ralso about the european supply of gas.
Escalation of this latter isue is very dangerous as UE countries refuse to pay in roubles and have no way of resisting a prolonged Russian cutoff. But at the same time Russia may not want to provoke their "clients" into becoming ever more "Unfriendly". I think in the gas isue lies the true heart of the war and thus the key to whom will have the victory.
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posted May 09, 2022 06:07 AM |
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Salamandre said:
How Russia being socialist was a good thing? One of the richest and largest empire now having the GDP of Korea and Brazil, way behind resource midgets as Germany, Italy or France?
Certainly, neither GDP nor GDP with PPP reflect well either the capabilities of the country or the well-being of the population. In fact, the possession of a number of key technologies is of great importance (for example, what NimoStar said), and here Russia is at least as good as Europe (not to mention the resources of raw materials and electricity generation). In general, the GDP of most Western countries is overestimated by several times - in fact, these figures are not related to the real possibilities of the economy.
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posted May 09, 2022 08:34 AM |
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@USSR was wold's second superpower@
No USA and USSR were equally superpower in the world, but race from superpower, USA won the race, and we can recognize USA.. When the Bible read.. and Jehovah's witness published:
It after the Bible says new superpower is rising in the last day.. When you read "politically divided world", but no mentioned political country.. Now Jehovah's witness know new superpower is Russia.. They know in about 4 years ago or they believed in..
But winner isn't mentioned too, it after the last superpower:
What Jehovah's witnesses are waited for the last superpower.. and the world lives very briefly.. Yes in the Bible has mentioned about the last superpower will destroy the world's religion, war, etc
I've talked with Jehovah's witness.. Their fact is the best than other analyzed superpower countries without recognized historical superpower or winner.. But the last superpower shouldn't know, but ok their Biblical justify..
I read already
You get a book from Amazon, library, etc No only Jehovah's witness.. When book is so very good..
But I've own version.. You find this thread.. Ok
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fred79
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posted May 09, 2022 01:55 PM |
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lol @ that image. what's next, nostradamus? 
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Ghost
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posted May 09, 2022 02:15 PM |
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 fred!
Yea 8. world of the king as NWO, globalist.. So what you want call of them,, Many puzzle, because of the Bible.. Think about alien UFO has blood and meat.. or plant, spirit..
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