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Lord_Woock
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Daddy Cool with a $90 smile
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posted May 08, 2003 12:36 PM |
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I'll put it this way - I consider myself a n00b. A big n00b. And I got an Archangel rating on a medium 200% random WOG map. Fun template that is, I think it's called Jebus Cross.
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GrunanCross
Famous Hero
King of the Underdark
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posted May 08, 2003 12:38 PM |
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yeah i know that one its very fun...
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Lord_Woock
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Daddy Cool with a $90 smile
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posted May 08, 2003 12:41 PM |
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6th day first week victory lol. I just love Gurnisson on WOG, especially with double movement *evil grin*. Had two cyclops dwelling right under my nose lol. With those ballistas and my commander, I finished the comp with those cyclops alone lol (1 king and 2 normals). WOG can sure be fun  .
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GrunanCross
Famous Hero
King of the Underdark
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posted May 08, 2003 12:45 PM |
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wow thas pretty goood.....i think that beat me lol i was likw 2 week...
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Lord_Woock
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Daddy Cool with a $90 smile
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posted May 08, 2003 01:05 PM |
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I tell ya, it's no hard thing when you play with double movement, enhanced specialties, prebuilt grails and all heroes starting on level 5  .
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GrunanCross
Famous Hero
King of the Underdark
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posted May 09, 2003 08:39 AM |
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....woock....lol......i think that would be easy lol
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Sir_Stiven
Honorable
Legendary Hero
banned
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posted May 09, 2003 04:14 PM |
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Quote:
Ok ok ok Andi, I guess ur right it's hard to tell if someone is THE best or not. It's just that he is the only guy who always kicks my behind when I play him LOL
Against any other guy I feel I have a good chance, but against the Arch-tosser I start the game by reporting the loss in advance
ROFL
well this thread is exactly about what i wrote in a thread in tavern "Showdown: vets vs n00bs" or something.
The vets speak their mind and tries to give advice, the n00bs argue their own tactics instead.
Ok piece of advice: If you ever wanna learn this game stop arguing your n00bish tactics and listen to what the vets says.
You complain that no advice is given to you... well i think you are to busy arguing the advice so you cant see it.
So please stop
A) saying that no advice is given
B) argue the vet tactics with your n00b ones (it will only makes you look even more n00by)
And please start
A) Listen to the advice given
B) Come up with questions if there is something you dont understand but dont argue it.
If you do this im sure you will learn this game better.
...and some tossers say i dont help the n00bs out...bah
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Lord_Woock
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Daddy Cool with a $90 smile
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posted May 09, 2003 04:55 PM |
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Thanks, Stiven. I hope this will help clear things out .
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notmytohhandle
Known Hero
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posted May 09, 2003 07:26 PM |
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Rampart
day1:Elves
day2:Up.Elves
Day3:Up Cen.
day4 awrves
day5:townhall
day6egi.
Day:7citadel
.....With this set up on day 2 you can kill Griffin conv. crypts, naga banks, ect only not topias..wait till 2week,day3..grand elves are the badest around and if played strongly u can smash most foos on the 2 week,day3
okay u have 7 grands and 50 kents are u sure u dont wanna attack that tope ?? i mean the full naga bank was a piece of cake with my lvl 2 hero..
/Archie
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zilonite
Famous Hero
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posted May 09, 2003 10:16 PM |
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Rampart heresy - can't stand aside
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Rampart
day1:Elves
day2:Up.Elves
Day3:Up Cen.
day4awrves
day5:townhall
day6egi.
Day:7citadel
.....With this set up on day 2 you can kill Griffin conv. crypts, naga banks, ect only not topias..wait till 2week,day3..grand elves are the badest around and if played strongly u can smash most foos on the 2 week,day3
Peaceful elephants dont wanna to be involved in vet-noob wars, but still i will risk a little comment about my favorite Rampart.
Day 1&2 - ok. Day 3 - Up.Cents... Hmm, a bit strange but i would admit it. Captains are good, that speed bonus could be used against early fights with shooters, but for me that wood and one day lost is too high price.
But why the hell u build those dwarves on day 4?
Day 5 - townhall.. Ok, but i think either too late or too early.
If day 1-5 is what u put, then Day 6&7 is ok...
However in total u will miss unis (and even dendros) without them your cents soon will be bleeding badly...
As for cons, naga banks etc. - Archie is right by 100%, u overestimate, man, by far. Of course, u can take out crypt on day 2, but cons or banks... I love those arrow-buggers dearly, but when u stand with some 7-14 of them in the middle of some 200 or even only 100 griffs or 30 or even 20 nagas...
ok, just my two cents
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Warlock
Tavern Dweller
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posted May 09, 2003 11:16 PM |
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Rampart
day1:Elves
day2:Up.Elves
Day3:Up Cen.
day4awrves
day5:townhall
day6egi.
Day:7citadel
.....With this set up on day 2 you can kill Griffin conv. crypts, naga banks, ect only not topias..wait till 2week,day3..grand elves are the badest around and if played strongly u can smash most foos on the 2 week,day3
God, i haven't been here for a while and when i've finally come such dreams.... i don't know what sort of game u play, but it's certainly not homm3. i've been playing it for over 3 years and i've never smashed griffs from their conservatory before week three! and u're saying that u can beat nagas during the seckond week? has anybody ever done that against 30 nagas? i thought all of us play 200%... well, i was wrong!
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AndiAngelsla...
Disgraceful
Famous Hero
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posted May 09, 2003 11:53 PM |
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Quote:
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Rampart
day1:Elves
day2:Up.Elves
Day3:Up Cen.
day4awrves
day5:townhall
day6egi.
Day:7citadel
.....With this set up on day 2 you can kill Griffin conv. crypts, naga banks, ect only not topias..wait till 2week,day3..grand elves are the badest around and if played strongly u can smash most foos on the 2 week,day3
God, i haven't been here for a while and when i've finally come such dreams.... i don't know what sort of game u play, but it's certainly not homm3. i've been playing it for over 3 years and i've never smashed griffs from their conservatory before week three! and u're saying that u can beat nagas during the seckond week? has anybody ever done that against 30 nagas? i thought all of us play 200%... well, i was wrong!
looool, hard to count all the tosses in this...rofl
ok where do i start, grif cons or nag banks, warlock certainly doesnt know you can check them before you enter.
none of us can kill 30 nags or 150/200 grifs week2.
SEcond, no we dont play 200% coz we play mutliplayer not the comp...
and finally about rampart building order, you kidding me?
either you upgrad elves or cents (maybe), what you have more power with. Than you go unicorns, man unicorns are what u need week2.
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notmytohhandle
Known Hero
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posted May 10, 2003 12:24 AM |
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sure sometimes we do 150/200 griff cons week 2, u were in a 2o2 with me andi where frank dident take his 4 angel cons with necro.. dont u remeber me stealing it week 2 and as for nagas week 2 sure its possible with full bank but week 1 day 2 i mean pls pls pls u just make yr look like such a noob and a liar too..
/Archie
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Warlock
Tavern Dweller
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posted May 10, 2003 01:44 AM |
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looool, hard to count all the tosses in this...rofl
ok where do i start, grif cons or nag banks, warlock certainly doesnt know you can check them before you enter.
none of us can kill 30 nags or 150/200 grifs week2.
SEcond, no we dont play 200% coz we play mutliplayer not the comp...
I don't feel well, cause my beautiful world of great knowledge is worth nothing as i see.... i didn't know u can check the number of dwellings! HOW DO U DO THAT!!! In fact i don't play on the zone coz i don't have "store" homm3 and without it it just don't work. but i'm still amazed; so u guys don't play 200% even when playing hot seats?! so what's the average difficulty level u play? normal?!!!
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notmytohhandle
Known Hero
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posted May 10, 2003 03:16 AM |
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looool, hard to count all the tosses in this...rofl
ok where do i start, grif cons or nag banks, warlock certainly doesnt know you can check them before you enter.
none of us can kill 30 nags or 150/200 grifs week2.
SEcond, no we dont play 200% coz we play mutliplayer not the comp...
I don't feel well, cause my beautiful world of great knowledge is worth nothing as i see.... i didn't know u can check the number of dwellings! HOW DO U DO THAT!!! In fact i don't play on the zone coz i don't have "store" homm3 and without it it just don't work. but i'm still amazed; so u guys don't play 200% even when playing hot seats?! so what's the average difficulty level u play? normal?!!!
Enter the bank u
The AI plays wandering monsters at its best starting at 130 difficulty so anything from 130 to 200 but the last mentioned is rarely used since the outcome of those matches is highly dependent on the wealth within yr starting area.
/Archie
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chubby051
Promising
Known Hero
King of All That Are Fat
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posted May 10, 2003 04:20 AM |
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I always build elves day 1 and upgrade them day 2. this way you can still get uni's and castle week 1. Like Andi said, uni's week 2 is what ya want.
upgrading elves day 2 is like doubling your lvl 3's for any other castle. And don't be afraid to take them into battle against ranged attackers.
split the elves up into 3 equal stacks, have a main stack of cents, 2 stacks of 2 cents, 1 stack of 1 cent.
-wait with the elves
-wait with the main stack of cents
-move the other three stack of cents forward
-comp shoots them
-move main of cents stack forward
-move elves forward to full arrow range
NEW ROUND
-hit one stack with all the elves, usually killing it or leaving 1 or 2, no big deal
-hit the other stack with the main cents
-if there is a third stack of enemy attacks, they will hit your main stack of cents.
NEW ROUND
-finish off final stack
I don't recommend this for one pile of gold or something that can wait, but when there are lots (or if you got a good starting army), weak horde of ranged attackers blocking path or a mine, it works well. Usually only lossing 6-8 cents.
Works well on archers, master gremlins, mages, beholders, medusas, gogs, orcs, lizards, etc... pretty much anything slower then the cents. Becareful of what terrain you are on though.
ok, flame me now, i am a noob. LOL
Chubbs
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rychenroller
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted May 10, 2003 05:11 AM |
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Day 1. Elves
Day 2. Pegs
Day 3. Trees
Day 4. Unis
Day 5. Citadel
Day 6. Castle
Day 7. Either Town Hall or dwarves depending on the map
Day 8. Upgrade unis, war unis rock and 6 War unis much better use than grands.
Works for me.
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chubby051
Promising
Known Hero
King of All That Are Fat
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posted May 10, 2003 09:36 AM |
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Day 1. Elves
Day 2. Pegs
Day 3. Trees
Day 4. Unis
Day 5. Citadel
Day 6. Castle
Day 7. Either Town Hall or dwarves depending on the map
Day 8. Upgrade unis, war unis rock and 6 War unis much better use than grands.
Works for me.
yeah, i still upgrade uni's day 8. let town hall go until late week 2 if possible
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Xarfax111
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
The last hero standing
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posted May 10, 2003 11:59 AM |
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Day 1. Elves
Day 2. Pegs
Day 3. Trees
Day 4. Unis
Day 5. Marketplace (to spend money on 2 unis to drain map)
Day 6. Citadel
Day 7. Castle
Day 8. Resource Building (tons of crystal u need right?)
Day 9. Upgrade grands
Day 10. Upgrade unis, war unis rock and 6 War unis much better use than grands.
Day 11. Townhall
Day 12. Mageguild 1
Day 13. Mageguild 2
Day 14. Dragons
...try to get Goldies asap.
Well the 10 000 bugs for the dragon dwelling shouldnt be a problem, so i dont understand why peeps go for money buildings with rampart anyway. The real problem with rampart is the crystal and the ore. I can still see some vets dont go for the Dragons until 3rd week, i think without Goldies at the end rampart is to weak.
The elves on day 1....
The 2 Unis on day 4...
The grandelves plus the war unicorns...
...should really enable u to drain enough stuff from the map, even if recourses are low ..therefore Rampart is very popular in random games.
Xarfax1
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Xarfax111
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
The last hero standing
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posted May 10, 2003 12:45 PM |
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@warlock
Instead of entering such a building u refuse the fight. After that there will be 2 informations shown:
1. If u move the cursor over this building, thne in the bottom line it gives u some main invformation.
2. If u rightclick on the building a little window will open with a little more detailed infromation.
1. So for example u did this with a griff conv. u move the coursor over the building and get the info:
"...protected by a throng of griffons"
That give u the info that there are 249 creatures (in case of a griff conv. 200) at max in it.
5 Stack are in a griff conv. The stacks can be 10, 15, 20, 30, 40 per Stack.
In case of 15 per stack ull have 75 griffs in, which means a Horde (50-99), therefore it must be more then this.
If 40 as maximum per stack its 200 Griffons in total, which is still a throng, and therefore the stacks in the conv. can be 20, 30, 40.
2. so what u do now is right click on it and get for example:
"Lots of Royal Griffons and Horde of Griffons"
Lots of Royals is from 20 to 49, so it can be still 20, 30 or 40 pers stack.
The Horde of Griffons (50-99) are the other 4 stacks in this conv., so uve to multiply with for. So depending by the stack amoung u got 80, 120 or 160 Griffons in total, which shows u that only 4 times 20 can be a horde.
So now u know how much Griffons u might will face:
20 Royal Griffons plus 4 times 20 Griffons.
If uve some experience with the ambush situation, u know how to place your creatures well. Ull have 3 Stack of 20 Griffs on the right side, and 1 Stack 20 Griffons and 20 Royal Griffons on the left.
In case of "with Royals" the Griffons will attack like follows:
1. Royal Griffons left bottom
2. Griff right top
3. Griff right bottom
4. Griff left top
5. Griff right middle
This is very important if uve creatures with same speed like the griffs, where to attack first, where to place shooters and so on...
well enough said ...
Xarfax1
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