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Sindbad
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posted September 17, 2006 12:13 PM

Just because of the look of the town. If the Necropolis wouldnt look so gothic and with buildings on spikes, it would be good. But I think that it would be better to have them as neutral to be more rare (like so many ancient zombies?). And they could possibly fit into academy too! Imagine the situation: the wizards are jealous, because the necromancers have powerful magic. So they were trying to find out how the necromancy works. The wizards were travelling through the desert and discovered ancient tombs with mummies. They tried to resurrect them and so they created these monsters! And now it would also make sense that they would be neutral! What do you say?
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alcibiades
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posted September 17, 2006 12:42 PM

Well, they are coming back as neutrals, but being that Necropolis contains all the undeads - and such a varied collection of undeads as skeletons, zombies, vampires, ghosts, liches and dragons - and that Academy make war on Necropolis because of their use of Necromancy, I still say it would be utterly insane to have Academy use mummies, and it would make perfect sense to rank them with the Necropolis. And nevermind the gothic look of the city, you can have other mummies than those of ancient Egypt.

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DragonLord3000
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posted September 17, 2006 01:00 PM

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Well, they are coming back as neutrals, but being that Necropolis contains all the undeads - and such a varied collection of undeads as skeletons, zombies, vampires, ghosts, liches and dragons - and that Academy make war on Necropolis because of their use of Necromancy, I still say it would be utterly insane to have Academy use mummies, and it would make perfect sense to rank them with the Necropolis. And nevermind the gothic look of the city, you can have other mummies than those of ancient Egypt.


Mountain mummies?Cave mummies?
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Sindbad
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posted September 17, 2006 03:32 PM

Yeah, like what types of mummies exactly?
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alcibiades
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posted September 17, 2006 06:02 PM

Well I more ment like, there have been others through history that were mummified than the Egyptians. Just because it's a mummy does not mean you can't find it in other cultural relationships than the egyptian one. Which is why I have no reason relating it to the gothic necropolis city.

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DragonLord3000
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posted September 17, 2006 07:50 PM

Alc,do you want to replace griffins with swordsman?
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Sindbad
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posted September 17, 2006 08:00 PM

Alc, I dont know if there is anyone that will agree with you.

DragonLord, what does that question suppose to mean? Why *replace*, not *alternative*?
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alcibiades
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posted September 17, 2006 09:52 PM

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Alc,do you want to replace griffins with swordsman?


Actually I want to have the Swordsman and Crusader (or: Swordsman and Blade Master) as alternatives to the Footman / Squire, so that you can choose either one which suites your strategies best.

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actionjack
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posted September 18, 2006 08:41 AM

On the mummy thing....

First of all, I think mummy would fit well into the game... since we already have them in the previous game, and the Necros are suppose to come from the Academy, which the mummy could be one of their earlier undead experiment...

However, Egyptian theme mummy would just seem out of place in the gothic style of the current undead.  I guess you could try to make it more gothic looking, but it might just be too Lich like.  So it would seem out of place in both Academy or the Necro.  (also the role of slow melee attacker seem to fill out by Zombie)  

That say, I think it is still possible to have mummy in Necro.... just give us a pic of a more goth looking bandage undead, Alc.  


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alcibiades
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posted September 18, 2006 10:00 AM
Edited by alcibiades at 10:47, 18 Sep 2006.

I come to think of the famous Lord Soth. Not very Mummy like as such, but then, we could change the name from Mummy to something else (Dark Crusader?). Here are some images:

     

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Geny
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posted September 18, 2006 10:12 AM
Edited by Geny at 10:14, 18 Sep 2006.

I think that every undead creature is welcomed in the necro town. The necromancers would like nothing more than increasing the numbers of their undead army.

Hell, I won't be surprised if they had undead rabbits or something...

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antipaladin
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posted September 18, 2006 10:28 AM

im not big fan of homm5 and homm1 will always beat it imo,but i think that even the slightest undead creature,as in halfway crushed skelei,should join the ranks,becouse if its undead,its necropolistic,and only!

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Sindbad
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posted September 18, 2006 02:58 PM
Edited by Sindbad at 15:00, 18 Sep 2006.

I think that picture suits good to the un-upgraded death knight perfectly. Does anyone agree?
And mummies should be neutral, or not even in the game. There is no need for them if they would have the same abilities as zombies or doom knights.
And one more thing: the crusader should be a lvl 4 unit! Dont forget the training!
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antipaladin
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posted September 18, 2006 03:29 PM

i dont see a point in changing corrent h5..you can only have so much of units,and there is no point of undead nurutrals

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SBlister
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posted September 18, 2006 04:57 PM

Though I don't necessarily agree with this alternative creature system, I have a couple of name change suggestions:
1. Dark Knight/Dread Knight - Dread Knight/Dread Templar or Dread Champion
2. Efreet Sultan - Efeet Caliph
3. Minotaur/Minotaur King - Minotaur Slave/Minotaur Gladiator
4. Mighty Gorgon - Bull Gorgon
5. Camel Warden - Dervish
6. Pegasus/Silver Pegasus - Valkyrie/Valkyrie Maiden

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DragonLord3000
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posted September 18, 2006 05:41 PM

Moore ideasikemen\Halberdier
           Spearmen\Honorable spearmen
           
Minotaur\Minotaur king
Tauren\Crushing tauren

Treant\Ancient Treant
Ent\Ancient Ent

Wight\Wraith
Wraith\Reaper

Devil\Archdevil
Soulfeaster\Death omen

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antipaladin
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posted September 18, 2006 05:47 PM

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Though I don't necessarily agree with this alternative creature system, I have a couple of name change suggestions:
1. Dark Knight/Dread Knight - Dread Knight/Dread Templar or Dread Champion
2. Efreet Sultan - Efeet Caliph
3. Minotaur/Minotaur King - Minotaur Slave/Minotaur Gladiator
4. Mighty Gorgon - Bull Gorgon
5. Camel Warden - Dervish
6. Pegasus/Silver Pegasus - Valkyrie/Valkyrie Maiden


why would there be sultans first,and not normal efreeties?
and dark knight/antipaladins are good enought,the antipaladins are rearly used in the games

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Sindbad
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posted September 18, 2006 05:50 PM

Some new guys came here and changed the topic into new names contest!
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DragonLord3000
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posted September 18, 2006 05:53 PM

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Some new guys came here and changed the topic into new names contest!


Ok you don't want to change names?What do you want to talk about?
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Sindbad
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posted September 18, 2006 06:57 PM

Ask actionjack, he is hosting...
That was only some joke-reply.
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