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Demortae
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posted August 24, 2006 01:49 PM |
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His archers have 8 initiative or is it 9?
Archers have 9 initiative, and the upgraded marksmen only have 8.
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RaZmuShaDoW
Known Hero
The Sync Bug Hunter
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posted August 24, 2006 04:02 PM |
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In fact Heaven hero can just The word of Light and kill all your furries.
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TowerLord
Promising
Supreme Hero
Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
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posted August 24, 2006 04:30 PM |
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no he cannot! Word of Light only works on demons and undead!
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Doomforge
Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
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posted August 24, 2006 07:57 PM |
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and has pathetic damage, add poor spellpower of knights and you have one of the worst spells in h5
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PhoenixReborn
Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
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posted August 25, 2006 05:58 AM |
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and has pathetic damage, add poor spellpower of knights and you have one of the worst spells in h5
Well at least its true to the series. In heroes 2 there were usually better things to cast than holy shout.
Edit: Knight isn't the only one who can use it...but then this is a thread about haven. Bonus question...I've never had a warlock with light magic, does word of light become an empowered spell?
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TowerLord
Promising
Supreme Hero
Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
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posted August 26, 2006 02:52 PM |
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my closest game, until now !
I played against a Dungeon / Sinitar setup, last night ... My opponent didn't develop very fast, he didn't leave his island until week 6. His stats were 8-10 3-5 22 7 at the time of the battle, and he had empowered implosion. I had a very strange development in stats : 17(19 cause i visted something on his island) 10-12 6 17 ... Huge Knowledge ... Dont know why (I had +6 cap, but what about the other 11).
My army was : 16 Paladins , 45 Imperial Griffins, 91 Squires, 611 Marksmen.
His was : 5 + 5 Witches , 31 upg Hydras, 20 grim raiders, 66 minotarus , 104 blood furys, and 117 Assassins .
I split the marksmen like this : 111 + 500
He had powerfull Empowered Implosion ... I think it was 1200+ .
He killed 30 of my griffins getting luck from the start with the furys  , I Battle Dived 5 Witches with them , and after that I attacked Hydras with paladins, and I got lucky killing the whole stack... anyway I would have killed more almost 2/3 even without luck, but this was a good thing certainly.
After that he started casting slow on my stack of marksmen , I killed 5 Witches with the other stack , he imploded my paladins , few of them remaining , and they were killed at the next strike of the furys . Maybe I mistook taking out his raiders with the main stack of marksmen cause they were next after , instead of the furys ...
Anyway after some more implosions , and some more stack killings by marksmen , it came to this : 280 marksmen + 91 squires on my side , and 117 assassins on his side , and I was to shoot with the marksmen, and gave him the final blow. Anyway empowered implosion was really great... I didn't have protection , and my magic ressistance didn't ... resist at all. I also had Guardian Angel , so in the end I would have had another extra stack, but still it was my closest battle in H5.
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rainalcar
Promising
Famous Hero
Heroji su zakon
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posted August 26, 2006 03:05 PM |
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Isn't it boring to play the same map same town all the time?
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted August 26, 2006 03:12 PM |
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Anyway empowered implosion was really great... I didn't have protection , and my magic ressistance didn't ... resist at all. I also had Guardian Angel , so in the end I would have had another extra stack, but still it was my closest battle in H5.
I had heard before that resistance did not seem to trigger against a warlock so I thought I'd test it to confirm my hunch.And no you will never see a resisted magic because during that a creature becomes immune to magic thus allowing irresistible magic to deal damage anyway.In my case I fought Marbas with Sinitar and occasionally my magic arrow would do half of his normal damage(protection not included) and considering he had expert IM it makes perfect sense.What I still don't know is what happens when dark magic is resisted by a warlock.
Edit:Nope dark magic are subject to resistance.
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scooter_me
Adventuring Hero
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posted August 26, 2006 03:16 PM |
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yes! thats exactly correct Rainalcar! we play this game to get bored...
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted August 26, 2006 03:23 PM |
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Ah the price of specialization A bit repulsive isn't it?Hopefully the random map generator will come soon(TM).I can barely start a map even by alternating between factions(which usually I do).
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rainalcar
Promising
Famous Hero
Heroji su zakon
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posted August 26, 2006 03:23 PM |
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I like winning too, but I still played dozens of games me strongold vs. castle/dungeon etc in H3... It's the fun of exploration why I really love this serial.
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rainalcar
Promising
Famous Hero
Heroji su zakon
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posted August 26, 2006 03:26 PM |
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About the map generator, considering what the Russians say (it is remarkable how they are light years ahead and knowledge of the game mechanics in some segments), I would say that there are 95% chance to get Map Editor in 1.3, but very little chance for the Random Generator.
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scooter_me
Adventuring Hero
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posted August 26, 2006 03:48 PM |
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yeah i dont expect random generator either...
but not to worry guys. ima make a HUGE map with LOTS of castles that will be HARD to take, and maybe a map big enough so that either you use 2 heroes or you cannot explore fast enough to win.
so treat me as a random map generator... although you'll only get 1 map a year, but if theres 365 people like me in the world thats 1 a DAY!
but yeah, lost of resources, no damn roads, and no straight path to the enemy base.
its easier to randomly generate a map and edit that rather than start from scratch though. sets ou a pretty terrain for you already
(i used to love making such pretty ponds and flower combinations in heroes 3, but every time i took 10 minutes on a pretty hill/pond/flower mix i thought (ill never get this done)
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Doomforge
Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
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posted August 26, 2006 09:19 PM |
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My army was : 16 Paladins , 45 Imperial Griffins, 91 Squires, 611 Marksmen.
what the f*ck ;o that's almost like skellies, only with several times better unit.. gosh
where are inquisitors? Very useful unit, you can have either haste or bless with hero, inquisitors grant the spell that was not present in the L1 guild..
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TowerLord
Promising
Supreme Hero
Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
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posted August 26, 2006 11:49 PM |
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didn't have enough money for the inquisitors ... another 11 k gold for their building and upgrade , would have ruined me 
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dkolb
Promising
Known Hero
Nay Nay and Aslan Protector
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posted August 29, 2006 07:07 AM |
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Upon reading all of this thread, I would say that TowerLord has made his case very well for Haven.
That is not to say that it is the best town because there is no such thing as a best town only the best player.
That being said
I've always been a fan of the Life/Castle towns, and in Heroes 4 I felt the Haven was completely outmatched, from what I've played this town brings back fond memories of Heroes 3, where it was once again a town to be reckoned with.
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RaZmuShaDoW
Known Hero
The Sync Bug Hunter
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posted August 29, 2006 01:38 PM |
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no he cannot! Word of Light only works on demons and undead!
Ups - I got it wrong... I just remembered the situation then I wanted to check the stats of the enemy hero and got killed in one move. But that time I had 7 stacks of the skelies.......
But look how exited you are showing me my mistake TowerLord!
One thing to say about this thread is that Heaven Faction is analyzed in detailed details in it
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TowerLord
Promising
Supreme Hero
Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
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posted September 04, 2006 01:41 PM |
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well ... you were contradicting a strategy with the wrong arguments
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PhoenixReborn
Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
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posted September 04, 2006 03:54 PM |
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In Heroes 2 was undoubtedly the weakest faction. You could win with it but the deck was stacked against you. No fliers and only one level 2 shooter. Weak level 7. Rough town.
Heroes 3 fixed that by adding a flier (from the warlock town) and a second shooter.
Heroes 5 has kept the same town arrangement as 3 but also given this training ability finally finding a use for peasants (besides becoming skeletons).
Does anyone train higher level units? Like priest to cavalier?
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HEBPEME
Hired Hero
I have TotE now!
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posted September 05, 2006 02:00 PM |
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Here's my oppinion:
I would have to agree with DKOLB that there really isn't the best town in H5. It would be simply plain stupid of Nival to make a game with a superior faction (or 2,3...doesn't matter).There are some advantages in factions but they mostly determine the mere start of the game which is important, but far from crucial.
Often you can have a great start, clear the creeps much sooner than your opponent and still lose the game (which is normal). I found myself losing a perfectly led game just because my friend was a lucky bastard to find 3 times better artifacts than me !  He was immune to implosion, had the ring of speed and dragon eye ring etc. while i was stuck with boots of magic protecion (+10% res),cloak of sylanna and neckless of a blody claw (which is not that bad i admit). But again,that is what i love about Heroes...the same armies can create various outcomes in battles.It is not linear and always predictable (expecially with luck and morale).Any faction can defeat any faction with same probability.It is HOW you play Heroes,not WHO you play it with (in terms of faction, of course  )
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