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dschingi
Famous Hero
the guy with the dragon golem
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posted October 03, 2007 09:49 PM |
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Good work, Nival, cost of Ring of Speed and Staff of the Netherworld has been reduced post HoF - because these artifacts were not quite powerful enough? 
Now you scared me 
On the artifact page both are at 17k like in 2.1 so I don't see any change. I wouldn't mind them getting more expensive though 
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sfidanza
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted October 03, 2007 10:14 PM |
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Their cost is 20000 in 1.5. That's what he meant.
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emilsn
Legendary Hero
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posted October 03, 2007 10:29 PM |
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My list:
I don't care which Goblin, I guess witch-doctor for the those magic users(it work on heroes) and trappers for Haven and rushers. 
Marauder: Lower dmg, but else they are great and with orc heroes +20 att they do quite nice
Warmonger: They always so slow, and mauler is slow too.. So I just stick with this, they last longer.
Sky daughter: yes sir! A long battle, use chain lightning, if short - just slow and haste. I love these
Executioner: when i pick chieftains I just let them do "order of the chief" and they are quite good in melee. But since im lazy with them, I pick Executioner . Fast killers. Yeah!
Pao kai: Indeed! They can hit so much! And do decent dmg too! Poison are good too, but I like these more..
Bloodeyed Cyclops: Hmm? I tried untamed, lost my army.. I guess they are only for siege.. so keep Bloodeyed Cyclops until last siege..
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VokialBG
Honorable
Legendary Hero
First in line
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posted October 03, 2007 11:30 PM |
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Edited by VokialBG at 11:53, 04 Oct 2007.
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Their cost is 20000 in 1.5. That's what he meant.
The item basically sucks for huge price of 20k gold!
EDIT: Ohhh soryy I mean the stuff sucks the ring is always welcome in every hero's army
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted October 03, 2007 11:41 PM |
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Err.. It basically hands you victory in a plate if your opponent has similar forces. Ring of speed against dungeon can be a real killer because your damaging stacks will act before enemy hero. As for the staff no comment.
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WarLore
Famous Hero
servant of urgash
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posted October 04, 2007 03:52 PM |
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really powerful combo with HoF raelag,ring of speed and staff of netherworld.(i have live account,wich i made for discuss with some who interested about Heroes5,or some other things it is heroes5TotE@hotmail.com)
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Nirual
Famous Hero
Imbued Ballista
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posted October 04, 2007 05:07 PM |
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Raelag is pretty overpowered by himself, especially his HoF form.
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In ur base killing ur doods... and raising them as undeads.
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WarLore
Famous Hero
servant of urgash
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posted October 04, 2007 07:22 PM |
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nah,i dont think so.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted October 04, 2007 07:24 PM |
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You are kidding of course. Imbalance in its finest form 
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Nirual
Famous Hero
Imbued Ballista
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posted October 04, 2007 08:00 PM |
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hm, so you think a (level)% boost to your own units initative AND the same penalty to the enemy units is fair and square?
Hell, it's more broken than Deleb. I generally hate it that most interesting specialities are limited to campaign heroes, but with Raelag, I can at least see why. Even an enemy with both the Staff of the Underworld and the Ring of Speed will still have a disadvantage if his level is at least 21.
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In ur base killing ur doods... and raising them as undeads.
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phoenixreborn
Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
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posted October 04, 2007 10:04 PM |
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By the way Deleb has been nerfed. I bumped into her in the Agrael demo mission. Not only did I manage to kill her ballista (pit fiends) but when it was shooting the fireballs only killed 2 succubi per shot. What was she level 15?
Edit: Umm. What's with all those "special" renegade(?) haven heroes? Are they in the regular haven faction? They must be campaign only I guess.
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roy-algriffin
Supreme Hero
Chocolate ice cream zealot
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posted October 04, 2007 11:18 PM |
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I dont want to see a level 30 realeg with a phenoix a ring of speed /celerity a staff of the netherworld with haste and slow
thats the unit moving at 290% speed in comparison to no boosts!
the equivalant of roughly 54 initiative i think.
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Cepheus
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted October 05, 2007 12:08 AM |
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Umm. What's with all those "special" renegade(?) haven heroes? Are they in the regular haven faction? They must be campaign only I guess.
They are in Hammers of Fate as well, and they are campaign only. Three new ones are included in the demo (check my post in the first page) while another three have already appeared in HoF. There's also Laszlo, though he probably doesn't appear in TotE since he's dead.
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Miru
Supreme Hero
A leaf in the river of time
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posted October 05, 2007 12:28 AM |
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I wish that by preordering they gave you a few maps to download...
It makes sense to me.
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Nirual
Famous Hero
Imbued Ballista
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posted October 05, 2007 08:04 AM |
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They all share specialities with the normal haven heroes, so you're not missing much.
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In ur base killing ur doods... and raising them as undeads.
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MPaBkaTa
Adventuring Hero
Cow lover
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posted October 05, 2007 08:49 AM |
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Well it doesn't seem likely i hope the renegade heroes are playable just that you will be able to choose between them.
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Eternal-Merlin
Tavern Dweller
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posted October 06, 2007 05:06 AM |
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I'm not sure if the post was in this thread, I've not been able to locate it if it is, but where is the listing of the creature listing for TotE?
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted October 06, 2007 05:18 AM |
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I hope you've allready beenhere if not try AoHthe TotE section or AoH Heroes 5 section. You have the full descriptions of all creatures.
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Eternal-Merlin
Tavern Dweller
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posted October 06, 2007 06:20 AM |
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Sorry, I should have been more specific.
When using the cheat console to mess around with the demo, where would the actual listing of creatures, like CREATURE_WYVERN_PAOKAI for example.
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Sorry, I found it. For anybody else that needs it:
[url]http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/heroes5/modding_wiki/wiki:toe_demo[/url]
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dschingi
Famous Hero
the guy with the dragon golem
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posted October 07, 2007 01:14 AM |
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Edited by dschingi at 01:17, 07 Oct 2007.
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The new spells
I played a little with the new spells. Here are a few things I noticed:
Vampirism
-while a creature is under effect of Vampirism its morale is set to 0
-it removes all spell effects undeads are immune to (probably including Frenzy and Puppet Master)
Regeneration
-resurrects like hydras' regeneration
-since the effect is based on the target's hit points you get most out of it for creatures with high hp, so preferably lvl7s. I'm sure it can do well on defending Treants, too
-the number of hit points is set at each healing, so after you cast raise dead on such a stack, the healed hit points are reduced like the maximum hit points of the creature
Blade Barrier
-like the summoned hive it can't be (physically) attacked by your own creatures or hero; the only way for you to destroy it is to use area spells
Summon Hive
-It doesn't matter where you place it, the hive can attack from anywhere, but they still attack the closest enemy target
Arcane Crystal
-can be attacked by your own creatures
I like them so far. The Blade Barrier and Arcane Crystal will make creeping against walkers, especially large ones, even easier. In fact, if you are able to trap the enemy that it can only move vertically, you can place that barrier and it has to spend at least 3 turns destroying it. You need to be a little lucky with obstacles for that, of course. It's of no help against shooters, but at least the hive can be useful against them. I forgot to check if it can block shooters, but I doubt it... that would be a little too powerful
Regeneration could be a substitute for Resurrection to some extent, or at least a little help. If you get it, the pressure to get Resurrection may not be so high, since you can avoid small casualties 
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