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Ridnarhtim
Tavern Dweller
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posted October 14, 2007 07:01 PM |
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It's on the way, can't wait!
Just been looking at the skillwheel. I'm not a hardcore player, so I might be judging this wrong, but Shatter light seems really good. Refined mana means sky daughters can use chain lightning without sacrificing any goblins, and storm wind seems great too. Shame you can't have both. Anyway, definitely seems like a skill worth going for.
Also, does shout really have a 2% chance of popping up? It seems like a skill most barbarians should have
Finally, is there a list of what the levels/bonuses of rage for each creature are?
From the demo, though, I love the orcs and will probably be playing them a lot.
Edit: Also, with the Memory Mentor, would it be possible to learn something like dark revelation, and unlearn it, or would that lose you the level up? Could you theoretically get the 10%HP bonus from stamina over and over again? Or even the level up from dark revelations? (yeah, I'm sure that doesn't work one way or another, would be too easy ^^)
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Duncan
Famous Hero
The Pathfinder
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posted October 14, 2007 07:23 PM |
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Guys, were can I find the new skill tree, when I play with necro I saw that you have new spec skill. So were can I get this?
Here.
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Gil-galad
Known Hero
High King of Noldor
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posted October 14, 2007 07:40 PM |
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Now I finally have the game too There are many nice improvements from HoF, like now the enemies act more tacktical on the map. They use scantuary's and have less stupid movements. Many of the new upgrades are really great, but there are many ugly names too. Arcane Archer is extremly powerfull, but their name should rather have been Sharpshooter and the yyyyiiiiihhhhhaaaaa shout when you win a battle is so..... unelvish
Btw, do you think Arantir's special ability is very usefull? To me it was nice in the start, but now I'm on the fith map in his campaign and I have Expert Summoning Magic. My avatar costs 52 mana while Summon Pheonix cost 35 and is more powerfull
Btw 2, on the campaign I have Howl of Terror. It's very easy to get now
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emilsn
Legendary Hero
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posted October 14, 2007 07:57 PM |
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Btw, do you think Arantir's special ability is very usefull? To me it was nice in the start, but now I'm on the fith map in his campaign and I have Expert Summoning Magic. My avatar costs 52 mana while Summon Pheonix cost 35 and is more powerfull
It aint that good if you got great army - But You can easily beat the high cost of mana . Just get Ring of Sar-Issus. It halves cost of all spells 
And can i just say: Banshee howl is awesome if you get whole necro set!! It kicks ***!!! And I love the necro's . They are awesome, Aranthir and Onella rocks! Arantir's character is great.. And the alts. are awesome - Okay the banshee sucks - BUT!! The master lich is awesome, raise dead x 2 Rocks, plus you got it with your hero . I don't think i have lost over 50 creatures pr map... . The only bad thing is Dark energy, since the 600 points you have is shared by both heroes... which i find bad :S Because after 1 (Big) battle I loose all my 600 points on 1 hero.. - But ELSE! Necro's rock and this is first time I feel joy playing them
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Gil-galad
Known Hero
High King of Noldor
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posted October 14, 2007 08:14 PM |
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I agree that the new necromancers are great. My Banshee Howl (with Howl of Terror), artifacts and Spectral Dragons reduces enemy morale to -8 when the enemy hero have leadership! The enemy did not have a chance allthough they were in greater numbers than Arantir.
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A collision at sea can ruin your entire day - Thucydides
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sfidanza
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted October 14, 2007 09:56 PM |
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Finally, is there a list of what the levels/bonuses of rage for each creature are?
http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/heroes5/ability_bloodrage.shtml
And you'll find it in the manual as well of course.
http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/heroes5/game_manuals.shtml
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Edit: Also, with the Memory Mentor, would it be possible to learn something like dark revelation, and unlearn it, or would that lose you the level up? Could you theoretically get the 10%HP bonus from stamina over and over again? Or even the level up from dark revelations? (yeah, I'm sure that doesn't work one way or another, would be too easy ^^)
Any one-time bonus is definitely gained: you don't lose when "unlearning", and you don't gain it again if re-learning. On the other hand, it means that you can get the skill for the one-time bonus, and then unlearn it to pick another ability. However, Memory Mentors are not that frequent or cheap.
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Memory mentors is a new thing, you can go to them and relearn any skill for 3k gold
Not exactly: the cost depends on your hero level. Check the details in the manual.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted October 14, 2007 10:27 PM |
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In this replay you can see that brisk raiders are totally awesome and that some Deleb ballista ownage even with her special nerfed. Oh yeah warmachines rock till the end.
Deleb vs Arantir, a great match! Place your bets before seeing the replay
In case you don't know how to watch it, go to my documents->my games->Heroes of Might and Magic V - Tribes of the East->profiles->[your username]->replays. Just put the file in there and watch the replay, I think it's in the options.
I should mention that I replayed this battle a few times, it is damn hard.
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emilsn
Legendary Hero
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posted October 14, 2007 11:54 PM |
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Done with necro campaign! The cutscene at the end was... Wicked... Its all so... (finally) well written. The web of mysteries in Dark messiah is now being combined with HoMM V!
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Minion
Legendary Hero
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posted October 15, 2007 12:16 AM |
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In this replay you can see that brisk raiders are totally awesome...
Hmm, considering that the majority doesn't have the game yet, so your replay is only for the selected few  So, maybe you would like to demonstrate verbally what brisk raiders do in the clip? I imagine that I would never pick them instead of Dark Raiders.. and i would be happy if it ain't necessarily so.
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NIght_Heaven
Adventuring Hero
Lonely star in heaven dream
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posted October 15, 2007 12:26 AM |
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I have the game and I am willing to say my plea.(Remember Nalia from Bg2 Elvin? She always say bla bla bla hear my plea he he...anyway...)
Things about TotE.
1.All Havens alternatives are better.
2.Arcane archers shoot only once
3.All inferno alternatives are better.
4.Academy alternatives stinks lol
5.The game is boring I dont know why.Many thigs throwed around...
6.The music is good.
7.Duel heroes are unbalanced That is a new thing aint?lol
8.Orcs are "beautifull".I like the ciclops underware.
9.All scenario heroes are lookalike.(females and males are the same)
10.Daleb the horned female is still powerfull.Her balista can shoot well into an ciclop's ass.
11.Heroes like golem master,hunter master etc...start with more troops(6,6,7 golems or such.)
12. The new dwarfs alternates are fatter than the ones before.
13.The pink necropolis is looking better.Pink power forever!!
14.The combat map is charging faster now.
15.The new pixies are giving me creeps.Are like barbie dolls with some vampirism on them.
I will return later with some new informations he he
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted October 15, 2007 01:03 AM |
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Edited by Elvin at 01:05, 15 Oct 2007.
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Hehe I remember I disagree with some things.
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1.All Havens alternatives are better.
I won't get into this but except for the crossbowmen the other units are more or less of the same power. I did not believe that myself but playing the campaign made me change my mind.
3.All inferno alternatives are better.
Vermin, succubi, pit spawns, hell stallions and archdemons are not necessarily better. I have faced either of them and the old upgrades can still defend their position.
4.Academy alternatives stinks lol
You know the drill
5.The game is boring I dont know why.Many thigs throwed around...
Which is why it is not boring. It's almost like starting a game from scratch - H5 reinvented.
10.Daleb the horned female is still powerfull.Her balista can shoot well into an ciclop's ass.
Only with flaming arrows. She can be powerful later though because her early fireball is really negligible.
11.Heroes like golem master,hunter master etc...start with more troops(6,6,7 golems or such.)
Since 1.3.
Now I am undecided what is better, archangel or seraph. Resurrection is good but divine vengeance does some cool damage. And having finished the necropolis campaign I am very satisfied. I believe the last mission was brilliant in gameplay, difficulty and plot. Kinda reminded me the last mission of Adrienne where the map was riddled with enemy maps and portals
The campaign was challenging enough, had a plot and the heroes were more 'fleshed out' than before. They even gave us an insight in the renegades' way of thinking and fixed some loose ends.
@Minion
In one instance of the video the raiders circle some pitspawns hitting them three times. Apparently when facing large units they are very effective. Most of the time they hit two enemy stacks. Compared to the grim raiders I'd say it's about wanting a charge and die unit with good damage or one that can live longer dealing damage around. Unless the enemy focuses on it of course Against factions with high defense the grim raiders are no brainers.
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Duncan
Famous Hero
The Pathfinder
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posted October 15, 2007 02:41 AM |
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You can get the ultimate, just go to a memory mentor and remove the fallen knight skill. Memory mentors is a new thing, you can go to them and relearn any skill for 3k gold, can be used an unlimited amounth of time so you can easily get the ultis if you use them.
This is really one distinctive structure in this expansion. Its use is very significant. I wonder how many are around in the campaign. I wish I could use it (re)playing with Findan in the original H5 campaigns.
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But now I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it.
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phoenixreborn
Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
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posted October 15, 2007 03:58 AM |
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So far these AI improvements seem to apply to campaign. Any comments about AI on multiplayer maps? I did notice some improvement in the demo.
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yasmiel
Supreme Hero
Former Chessmaster
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posted October 15, 2007 07:56 AM |
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All I noticed so far is that AI actually uses "Flee"
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watcher83
Supreme Hero
Child of Malassa
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posted October 15, 2007 08:16 AM |
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I've read on a thread that Arantir kills Giovanni. Why?
What enemies does Arantir face?
Quests of the necro campaign?
complete storyline of the first campaign?
thanks in advance
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Homer171
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted October 15, 2007 08:28 AM |
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Edited by Homer171 at 08:31, 15 Oct 2007.
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AI has improvement nicely no more can you stall slow enemies by Gating and Summoning creatures in front of them they simply ignore them if your army is weak. Seems also that AI uses Defend and Wait more often in right places than before. In both Orcs and Necros campaigns i saw few things where AI had improved but don't get your hopes up it's still AI.
EDIT: Thank god i have played necro campaign already no spoilers thank you  Use that please spoil thread Watcher
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VokialBG
Honorable
Legendary Hero
First in line
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posted October 15, 2007 09:23 AM |
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Edited by VokialBG at 09:26, 15 Oct 2007.
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1.All Havens alternatives are better.
Its true the new griffins are too powerful for level 4! They have like 5 abilities and good stats! they must kick 1-2 of the abilities!
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2.Arcane archers shoot only once
They do nice damage but they are easy to kill.
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3.All inferno alternatives are better.
Not all of them, but most yes, the new imp can steal your mana in every turn... but the Arch Demon sux.
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4.Academy alternatives stinks lol
Hmmm they are not so bad, they are cool. Djinn Vizier's is useful troops, Battle Mage and Storm Titan are nice too... well the gremlins stinks...
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5.The game is boring I dont know why.Many thigs throwed around...
Sad to say it, but true, playing hot seat or single is boring even after everything new... but the campaign is not its cool and fun
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6.The music is good.
Yeah its great, all the new sound effects and stuffs the new creatures have better sounds (like the poltergeist move sound, I love it! its like the sound of bulgarian Chuls)
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8.Orcs are "beautifull".I like the ciclops underware.
... they are not on the model of the DM orcs... not exactly only the orange skins is the same... in DM they are not beautiful but they look better.
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13.The pink necropolis is looking better.Pink power forever!!
Yep this sux... they must be grey, dark green and Turkish blue - dark blue like the night.
EDIT: Some from me:
- Now new neutrals
- Now dwellings for neutrals
- Now dwellings for creatures after level 3 (only the stupid military posts)
- Modding is possible no more
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Rakacha
Hired Hero
Selfproclaimed Dragonlord
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posted October 15, 2007 03:24 PM |
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So far these AI improvements seem to apply to campaign. Any comments about AI on multiplayer maps? I did notice some improvement in the demo.
even when i played at easy, they did not flee from me in battle, even though my army was was bigger and stronger that theirs, and in my opinion, it's a good change =)
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guarder
Supreme Hero
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posted October 15, 2007 03:31 PM |
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- Modding is possible no more
What!!!No modding for TotE Lame
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Moonlith
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
If all else fails, use Fiyah!
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posted October 15, 2007 03:35 PM |
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Edited by Moonlith at 15:41, 15 Oct 2007.
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This is probably a silly question but I want the answer regardless... or, would like the answer.
The TOE expansion does not include the original campaign, but does it include the HOF campaign?
And if it doesn't future the original campaign, how can you play the TOE campaign if you don't have the original game, since I reckon the heroes you built up in the original campaign are transported into those new campaigns as well, or am I mistaken?
And wtf's this about modding no longer possible? if the files are still xdb and in .pak files, it's moddable!!!! Sheez...
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