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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
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posted December 06, 2009 05:59 AM |
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11 Hours till Game TIME!!!!!
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
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posted December 06, 2009 05:30 PM |
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They are Both Here.. and Session has officially started!
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infinitus
Supreme Hero
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posted December 06, 2009 08:21 PM |
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Firedragon and Strider got again compatibility problems. Firedragon said Strider turns take again 1 hour per turn, and in the end Strider disconnected. Firedragon send me two screenshots with diconnect pictures. They play on UBI, maybe this are UBI server problems ?
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Strider_HL
Famous Hero
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posted December 06, 2009 09:04 PM |
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I was slower during 1st turn (40 min) but faster in 2nd turn (20 min vs. fire's 35 min). We had a d/c in the 3rd turn. I also have screenshot. Indeed Ubi servers are bugging now as our game is shown still active. Anyway, it might as well be d/c on my side, i don't know. I offered to load the game but fire declared that he has won and disappeared
Btw, when we loaded the game he stated that his save file is lost. Luckily we were able to launch from my copy. Who knows if that was also part of the plan that didn't work out hmm
fire, you are online - come back and play Seems that drama just won't leave us alone...
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
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posted December 07, 2009 12:42 AM |
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Hmm.. After I got them going in there game, I left to go Christmas shopping for the day.. who new the needed baby sitting the entire time.
I recieved screen shots from FireDragon.. showing both the disconnect AND the you have won screen... Which usually the " You have won" screen only shows if someone quits the game manually. And its easy to make disconnect message show up.. Just by unplugging cable from your machine or turning hamachi off.. so those disconnect messages prove nothing.
As I have said before THE ONLY way this game will finish is to have STRICT heartless rules and guidlines.. for example.
Must meet and play atleast 1 ingame week per session.. anyone who cannot make this happen, then Ceasar is not there top priority and should be disqualified. At this point it has gone on long enough and the little kid bickering is only becoming more ridiculous.
And Hour long turns is even more silly. But to late to impose a game timer.. So the only control is to set sceduled meeting days with 1 week ingame playing requirement. And if you dont want to play 7 hours then you better not make your turns last 1 hour each.
I am also going to be talking to both of them about there screen shots and disconnect issues. But its obvious there is some fishy buisness going on.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted December 07, 2009 12:47 AM |
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Whee! Btw 'you have won' screen always appears to both players.
It makes me all warm and fuzzy inside to see how things are so predictable From the replies here to the problems inside the game.
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
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posted December 07, 2009 01:19 AM |
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Quote:
Whee! Btw 'you have won' screen always appears to both players.
Cant show to both.. cause the one player who clicked quit game, is now out of game and no longer in game to beable to see the message
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted December 07, 2009 01:35 AM |
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You know what I mean. If game disconnects both see it.
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
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posted December 07, 2009 01:54 AM |
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Edited by Jinxer at 02:01, 07 Dec 2009.
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OR OR... another more radical solution to this sillyness...
If Either player can start and finish game with Kispagat(Runner-up) BEFORE the Strider-Fire match gets finished then the game that gets finished first will become the official ceasar game and the Ceasar Declared.
This way it will become OBVIOUS which player is the one who is stalling and not making the effort to finish. Sounds Genious to me? What are the general thoughts on this?
Strider vs. FireDragon
FireDragon vs. Kispagat
Strider vs. Kispagat
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Strider_HL
Famous Hero
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posted December 07, 2009 07:45 AM |
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I waited for fire yesterday 2 more hours after the announced session time thus devoting 5 hours totally. He never answered msn. I can play tonight from 8.30 pm (fire's time). Come, impish spark
My screenshot shows "fire disconnected" but i presume both see that message. Ofc, it didn't occur for me to make screen for "win" for similar reasons but i remember some numbers from it regarding collected resources hehe
One might expect there to be a few more d/c during the next ~10-15 hours of gaming time. Imagine the drama each time wuuhuu
P.s. As for turn length then it was 1-1 yesterday
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Kispagat
Famous Hero
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posted December 07, 2009 08:29 AM |
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Fire asked me to post the following:
He sent his screenshots Jinxer, he thinks it would be fair if Strider does the same.
Then Jinxer makes a decision, whatever it will be, he accepts that.
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DrOwnage
Adventuring Hero
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posted December 07, 2009 09:52 AM |
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What the snow is this bragging about disconnects ? Those screens show snow.
Start gaming and stop whining.
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infinitus
Supreme Hero
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posted December 07, 2009 01:15 PM |
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Quote: What the snow is this bragging about disconnects ? Those screens show snow.
Start gaming and stop whining.
Depends, if my opponent will do 1 disconnect per turn i will not play him for Caesar or not ... I can understand if this happen once because bad day, hardware change, provider problems. But if disconnects are abused and i know that, sorry ...
Don't forget they play on UBI, so in most cases game show correct hoo loose connection. Exception may be server error, but in this case after win screen, usually appear server error screen like - error 2.22.68. Entire UBI ranking is build on that: you disconnect or exit game, your PC crash, game crash - you loose this game. It's pain to loose game because game crash, but you will care more about your PC after that
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FireDragon-008
Adventuring Hero
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posted December 07, 2009 02:55 PM |
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Quote: I was slower during 1st turn (40 min) but faster in 2nd turn (20 min vs. fire's 35 min). We had a d/c in the 3rd turn. I also have screenshot. Indeed Ubi servers are bugging now as our game is shown still active. Anyway, it might as well be d/c on my side, i don't know. I offered to load the game but fire declared that he has won and disappeared
Btw, when we loaded the game he stated that his save file is lost. Luckily we were able to launch from my copy. Who knows if that was also part of the plan that didn't work out hmm
fire, you are online - come back and play Seems that drama just won't leave us alone...
Strider was a one-hour first round again,17:10-18:05...55 min..no comment! Strider did not pass 20-25 minutes, I saw...
Strider, what did you do?? Perhaps you've been masturbating and shower ('')
second turn 30 min vs.strider 25 min ...no problem... half hour good!
I redy for game...every day all week!! 13:20-20:00..my time
Don't be shy Strider, come and finish our game!!
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
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posted December 07, 2009 03:00 PM |
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How convienent... Strider can only come 30 mins AFTER the 7 hour time slot that Fire has available. PUH.. not looking good for Strider atm.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted December 07, 2009 03:43 PM |
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Wonders never cease.
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Strider_HL
Famous Hero
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posted December 07, 2009 08:42 PM |
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our robocop in his splendid armor hehe
Quote: How convienent... Strider can only come 30 mins AFTER the 7 hour time slot that Fire has available. PUH.. not looking good for Strider atm.
Convenient? Working during CONVENTIONAL working time is not uncommon. Uncommon is to be able to play only while others are occupied
Anyway, that leaves mostly weekends for us. I'll try to free more time this weekend but specifics will be clear in a couple of days. Meanwhile, i can offer evening hours.
Also, yesterday would have been quite a nice session consisting of 5 hours if fire didn't run away after d/c (btw i'm still not convinced that it was on my side)... Together with that "lost save" it looks like sabotaging But all this drama is unnecessary! Let's just play and be done with it!
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Towerlord
Promising
Supreme Hero
Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
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posted December 07, 2009 09:22 PM |
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I think a specific set of rules about future development of encounters should be agreed upon, like :
- higher than 30 minutes delay from scheduled time, of one of the opponents
- missing from a scheduled session
- disconnects should be treated as normal events, unless it is proved that they ocured in doubtful situation
- leaving from a session, without serious reason, just because you don't feel like continuing because of some disconnect or back pain
and so on... All these should be decided before they actually happen, otherwise there isn't going to be found a solution to them.
The tournament has been delayed long enough until now, so a little more patience cannot hurt. Strider is entitled to the crown for sure, so I think there is no point in bringing up strange contests of who finishes faster the tournament.
However, if he feels like Caesar is too time consuming and is bored of all the crap he has to suffer from many around, Kispagat would be a good choice for replacement for sure. For sure, he will still be seen, as one of the best h5 players and perhaps the moral winner of Caesar, though it is a little sad to go this far and to have to throw it all away.
PS: long turns with Inferno shouldn't be regarded with such mean eyes, they are normality in some situations. I think I once had a 1:30-1:45h turn with Inferno... it is a harder, more fun creeping game with them
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
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posted December 08, 2009 12:39 AM |
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Edited by Jinxer at 15:21, 08 Dec 2009.
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I talked to Strider, and he tells me that he can make an effort to be here by 7:00pm in the evenings during the week and For sure by 5pm on Sunday.. and possibly even Saturday night.. So I will talk to Fire now and see if Fire can possibly extend his latest evening time by 1 hour... and atleast they could get 2 hours every night and then 2 LONG sessions on Sat and Sun.. and that should be enough time to finish game.
Strider assures me his 1 hour turns are gonna be fewer now that week 1 is over. So maybe game will go faster
I will talk to FireDragon next and give more details soon.
**** UPDATE
Just talked to FireDragon and he agreed to show up and play at the 7:00pm time which is 19:00 Strider time and 18:00 Fire time.. and both agreed to play 3 hours. Starting Wednesday Night!!
I will post the Sat Sun schedule after we see if they both make it the next 3 days without missing.
As Tower pointed out.. at this stage, missing should not be tolerated. So be warned. The next 3 nights starting Wednesday from 18:00-21:00-FIRE / 19:00-22:00-Strider ...both will be expected to play your 3 hours atleast..
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Fraudatio
Famous Hero
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posted December 08, 2009 06:03 PM |
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Great news Jinxer! I will notify you if a position in the American embassy in Oslo becomes vacant, you sure diserve it
And in the end all becomes friends. I hope. GL to the finalists
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