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Heroes Community > Tournament of Honor > Thread: The Caesars tournament 2008
Thread: The Caesars tournament 2008 This thread is 31 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 ... 10 20 ... 27 28 29 30 31 · «PREV / NEXT»
LordMichal
LordMichal


Known Hero
posted December 01, 2009 03:53 PM

Great job Jinx. About time limit 30 min. Its even more than exactly 30 because, if you have battle time is ..slower". So its sure enough imo and you know the map good I think, so you sure know what you are talking about here.

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Jinxer
Jinxer


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posted December 01, 2009 08:35 PM

IS it still the same as it was in the beginning.. where the timer continues to run even during that battles? Or did they fix that so the timer pauses while in battle?
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Natalka
Natalka


Supreme Hero
Bad-mannered
posted December 01, 2009 09:15 PM

The timer doesn't go slower imo during battles. But if you go in battle in 29:59 and then you can spend 30 mins in battle and abuse this time limit. I am sure Strider_HL will use such tricks

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Jinxer
Jinxer


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posted December 01, 2009 09:35 PM
Edited by Jinxer at 21:37, 01 Dec 2009.

Well my question has not been answered yet.. in the past, the timer ran all during battles also.. so if you enter battle at 29:30 and fight for 29 mins when you exit battle you would have 30 secs left in turn.. Is it still like this? Or did they fix it so that when you exit battle you have 29:30 still?

Because if the timer pauses while in battle then there would be NO point in setting a time limit.

Maybe better to just go with Natalkas suggestion of make a requirement that 1 game week must be played during each sitting. So best not waste an hour per turn doing what ever it is that is being done.. UNLESS you have 7 hours available to play

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Strider_HL
Strider_HL


Famous Hero
posted December 01, 2009 09:53 PM

The rule for this series is "no time limit" so you can forget about imposing such now. As for session length then sometimes it would be longer than 3-4 hours. Similarly, in game time it could be 2 weeks or 4 days - that is totally dependent on the game progress (for example, garrison breaking from both sides could easily be 40 minutes each).

See you on Sunday.

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Jinxer
Jinxer


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posted December 01, 2009 10:52 PM
Edited by Jinxer at 23:06, 01 Dec 2009.

Quote:
The rule for this series is "no time limit" so you can forget about imposing such now.


Actually.. Strider.. you are wrong there.. That is a rule you suggested but that doesnt make it official.. After you posted your suggested rules on page #1  then Vesuvius spoke on page #2 with the OFFICIAL RULES

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As for version, it is ToTE, non-MOD, however can be MOD if players mutually agree.  ALL RULES are mutually agreed upon, or there is no rules at all.  Towns are RANDOM, unless again mutually agreed upon.  Map selection is also mutually agreed upon, or simply one player picks a map for one game, and other player picks map for 2nd game.  If disputes occur, I will take care of it. -Vesuvius


So the option is still open for such a time limit to be imposed if necessary. This tourny has gone on long enough. There is absolutely NO reason any turn should take 1 hour.. Maybe as you said if you are breaking Garrisons etc.. ok then I can understand.. but on day 3 of game.. it is silly..

Thats why I am getting community opinions on the matter on how best to Stream line the game to get it done.


ALSO dont for get that your OWN suggestion in the main post was that all games be given a 5 day deadline. So since its now been 385 days I think your suggested rules didnt work


So back to the question at hand.  More opinions please on a possible time limit... or I am open to suggestions and ideas on how to prevent the abuse of 1 hour turns prolonging the game. Ideas??

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Elit
Elit


Famous Hero
posted December 01, 2009 11:37 PM

Well all know I'm not best Friend Strider but all suggestion abut Time limit is silly. Lets they just meet and play.

Strider, Firedragon is on-line in msn regular...so if you really want to get game its won't be hard. BTW if you are so busy maybe is better just to drop game like you did in TW/Arena tournaments. None will blame you and this can help for Finish Caesar this year. I'm "sure" you are not for money there

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Jinxer
Jinxer


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posted December 02, 2009 02:22 AM

Quote:
Well all know I'm not best Friend Strider but all suggestion abut Time limit is silly. Lets they just meet and play.



As I said.. I am open to other suggestions.. Time Limit doesnt have to be used.. was just an Idea I suggested to try and help keep the game moving.... But just meeting and playing they will never get game done... for example. They can only play 3 hours on there first meeting.. So that will be 3 game turns if each turn is an hour.


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infinitus
infinitus


Supreme Hero
posted December 02, 2009 07:03 AM

On UBI 90% of people play with 1-5 min time limit, this is a bit extrim for me, i play with 10 min time limit. If i put more, no one enter my game Jinxer, just put 30 min time limit, this may solve the problems between finalists. Don't forget that game not continue cos Firedragon don't like Strider long turns...

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Natalka
Natalka


Supreme Hero
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posted December 02, 2009 07:12 AM

Jinxer I think timer doesn`t stop during battles ...following the example situation I gave you ,when you finish your 30 min battle you skip your turn e.g. as if you press "end turn" even though you may have still movement points. Anyway this doesn`t prevent him to do this always when the 30 min limit comes to its end...

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infinitus
infinitus


Supreme Hero
posted December 02, 2009 07:24 AM
Edited by infinitus at 07:38, 02 Dec 2009.

Common tactics then time limit is on - you do everything on map (build in town, move secondaries) and after enter long battle with your main. If battle is longer than time limit, after battle turn end automatically. Still you can have only one long battle per turn, so no mega long battles with secondaries with one pixie armies etc... Time limit will make finalists turns shorter for sure. Time limit add also new strategic options like - do i have to accept 5 pixie looses from auto combat and do one more battle this turn, or enter manual battle, save 5 pixie and loose all turn time ...

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FireDragon-008
FireDragon-008


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posted December 02, 2009 08:15 AM

I agree with the 30-minute time limit..
Time does not stop, but it goes  slowlier considerably during the battle...So here is 40 minutes for Strider!!!
30 minutes is equal to 40 minutes  javascript:bbcode('')
very good idea of the time limit, Strider pulled a long time, it's time to finish it out ..
Thank you for they ideas.

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Elit
Elit


Famous Hero
posted December 02, 2009 08:21 AM

I want to see Quality in this match. Its sure they wont break speed record

Put time limit will down quality and change all game strategy from strike because Inferno is most slow creeping race and I'm sure Strider will strike inferno for games with time limit.

Game is already started so i don't think here is possible to put now time limit ever if both want

Simple Strider need to find enough time for finish his game (include change rl schedule from all non work days) or step back and give his spot. I want to see replays from both sides.

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FireDragon-008
FireDragon-008


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posted December 02, 2009 08:28 AM

of course, does not understand this game a time limit, but the others!

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Towerlord
Towerlord


Promising
Supreme Hero
Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
posted December 02, 2009 08:31 AM

I concur with Elit, Caesar should be about quality, and not about speed, and adding a time limit would mess with that a little. More often (and longer) game sessions is the way to go

Also I hear from DrOwnage, that he has passed the twilight addiction a little to FireDragon too, so maybe, if both of them want, they could play one(or more) games in tw 2.0 also, now that it is fixed and ready to be explorer!
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FireDragon-008
FireDragon-008


Adventuring Hero
posted December 02, 2009 01:19 PM

I only have to read what wrote Natalka...
You are right, other solutions must be found...

be better idea than the time limit ..

I thinking...';')

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Jinxer
Jinxer


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posted December 02, 2009 02:44 PM

Ahh indeed if game has already started then a timer is no solution...

I guess we see how there first meeting goes.. if Strider abuses the 1 hour turns.. then we can try and figure out a solution for the subsequent sessions.
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Elit
Elit


Famous Hero
posted December 05, 2009 08:40 AM

Tomorrow is Sunday. Lets bet if they will make game or not

I stake they wont find each other again

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infinitus
infinitus


Supreme Hero
posted December 05, 2009 09:56 AM
Edited by infinitus at 09:58, 05 Dec 2009.

I stake they find each other, but after first super long Strider turn Firedragon explode and disconnect for 3 days and 3 nights

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DIEGIS
DIEGIS


Supreme Hero
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posted December 05, 2009 10:30 AM
Edited by DIEGIS at 10:31, 05 Dec 2009.

in fact f-i-r-e always under water
this is my bet
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