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posted December 08, 2009 07:55 PM |
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I don't see love for a spouse as being any different from love for a child, brother, or a parent. Perhaps someone who DOES see it as fundamentally different can explain why.
Carcity, what people mistake for love is a mixture, in fact. Fascination, crush, lust, friendship sometimes - all crammed together. Love may be in that mixture, but it may not be. The mixture is called love, however I think that love is exactly the same for parents, partners, children... it feels different cause it is mixed with different feelings each time. But the core feeling is the same.
At least for me.
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posted December 08, 2009 07:55 PM |
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I seem to remember that we had that same discussion and were reprimanded because the thread starter didn't want theoretical discussions about what love is.
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posted December 08, 2009 07:56 PM |
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I can't blame the thread starter for that.
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posted December 08, 2009 07:59 PM |
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@william: please drop that argument already, I'm talking mainly from other topics you post it. Do you think it's sound? Tell me how many people who analyze drugs actually took them as well?
Don't get me wrong, it's not EXCLUSIVE. You can experience it and analyze it as well. The point is that experiencing it has nothing to do with analyzing it -- and it doesn't mean you can't analyze it either.
Notice that I was speaking in general here. Let me put this differently. Your post was nothing more than an argument for the person who posted, instead of the post.
And, even though irrelevant, where the hell did you get the idea about me lacking that experience?
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and an engine is a PART of a plane or a car.
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see the car as love for the parents and the plane as love for the partner, then the engine is just a PART of that, there are many things that tell a plane and a car apart, just like love for a parent or partner.
The engine IS love. "love for a parent" is car, "love for a partner" is plane.
What differentiates them is the OTHER components. You don't call a car an engine. You don't call a plane an engine. They do have engine (love) as common parts, but there are the others that you mash up collectively as 'love'. "Love for a partner" is like saying "engine for flying" or "engine for road"...
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posted December 08, 2009 08:03 PM |
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posted December 08, 2009 08:08 PM |
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I did. Learn to debate properly. If you can't put up reasonable arguments, do you think people would take you seriously, just because you are you? Do you think you are entitled to having a better default 'word' than others? Ask yourself what makes your claim different than others' claims, then we'll talk.
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posted December 08, 2009 08:22 PM |
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so you think thedeath never fell in love?
even yesterday I saw a movie when the death falls in love 
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posted December 08, 2009 09:50 PM |
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so you think thedeath never fell in love?
even yesterday I saw a movie when the death falls in love
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posted December 09, 2009 02:10 AM |
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hey, you even know what I'm talking about. is the tv in belgium the same as in france?
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posted December 09, 2009 02:20 AM |
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I don't think so.
Maybe the southern half of Belgium, but the northern half has mostly dutch channels, though we also have arte and a few other french channels and some english channels...
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posted December 09, 2009 06:21 AM |
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A CHALLENGER APPEARS!
-Reports from the Front Lines-
It seems that I am not the only one who formulates these theories. A few of us were talking in the hall in my dorm, and another theory emerged - Windex Advertisement theory. (If you're not familiar with Windex advertisements, they portray a few crows who crash into glass windows because Windex apparently cleans them so well that they're unable to tell the difference.) It's not exactly a competitor to pillar theory, but it describes how most people get (or don't get) into relationships. In that sense, it's not as prescriptive as pillar theory - merely descriptive.
It works like this: metaphorically, everyone is a bird behind a window. Everyone can open their own window, but can't open anybody else's. If a bird manages to fly into someone's open window, a relationship starts. Some birds are good at telling when windows are open - while others just crash into closed ones. It is more common for windows to be open when the birds first encounter each other - later, one of the birds often decides that he/she doesn't want to ruin the special outside-the-window relationship they have, and not let the other through the window. Sometimes the window is just closed. Some birds try crashing into every window, hoping for an open one. Others are more careful and selective. Still others knock until the annoyed inhabitant finally opens the window. And, unfortunately, some just break through.
It's a crazy analogy, I know.
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posted December 09, 2009 05:44 PM |
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I don't think so.
Maybe the southern half of Belgium, but the northern half has mostly dutch channels, though we also have arte and a few other french channels and some english channels...
arte is the least famous channel here I think (well, I know it was a few years ago, maybe it isn't anymore) but they usually program the best movies. when it comes to series, M6 wins imo.
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posted December 09, 2009 05:50 PM |
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@Death, IMO the plane is the love for a partner, and the car a love for a parent, and in there there are no part that is the specific 'love' part, but all the different components combined creates love. that is why (IMO!) love is so different for a parent and a partner.
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posted December 09, 2009 10:49 PM |
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@Death, IMO the plane is the love for a partner, and the car a love for a parent, and in there there are no part that is the specific 'love' part, but all the different components combined creates love. that is why (IMO!) love is so different for a parent and a partner.
Dude you're arguing semantics. If you call a plane "engine" and a car "engine", but different 'types' of engines, you'll arrive at the same thing. That's what you're doing. The "love" you speak of is not love ALONE. It's a combination of components.
They share a common part. Let's call that love (or engine). The rest, which is not shared between the two, are other components. The full product is called a car or a plane, not engine.
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posted December 10, 2009 09:52 AM |
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Have I told you people about C's further misadventures? (Like about his engagement?) It's another example of what not to do.
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posted December 10, 2009 01:59 PM |
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Tell us about C's engagement. 
In fact, you may recount a bit of c for me. I'm not that great at assigning personalities to letters.
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posted December 10, 2009 04:00 PM |
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@Death, you misunderstood me, there is nothing in love that is caleld love, love is lust, care, respect and all other feelings mashed together, ALL those feelings together make love! and there are different kinds of love, they contain different components, but a few of these are thesame, that is true, but there is nothing in love that is love specifically.
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posted December 10, 2009 04:03 PM |
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Is it wrong to become attached to people? If not, then why does it usually end up hurting after awhile?
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posted December 10, 2009 08:32 PM |
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@Death, you misunderstood me, there is nothing in love that is caleld love, love is lust, care, respect and all other feelings mashed together, ALL those feelings together make love! and there are different kinds of love, they contain different components, but a few of these are thesame, that is true, but there is nothing in love that is love specifically.
You are free to use your definition but it is a bad one, because a word should have only one meaning. It's logical. So why you insist to use the word 'love' there and not the components instead?
Engine-analogy translation of your post:
There is nothing in a "car" that is called engine, engine is wheels, body and windows and all other components mashed together, ALL those components together make engine! and there are different kinds of engine, they contain different components, but a few of these are thesame [...]
I ask you again: why call it engine (or love) in the first place? Call it car, plane, and call the engine (for both) the SHARED components. Logical. Otherwise we go into semantics. See? 
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posted December 10, 2009 10:27 PM |
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define what that 'love' feeling is if we take away all other components.
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