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corcoran
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posted September 01, 2009 12:28 AM |
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Edited by corcoran at 00:29, 01 Sep 2009.
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hi, i'm new here, i'd like to play some duels, i thought i've seen some hamachi settings written somewhere here, but then again, ive also seen a post saying that there are none. So who wants to play?
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Elvin
Admirable
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Endless Revival
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posted September 01, 2009 12:56 AM |
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Would that I could, exams incoming But I'll be sure to oblige you soon enough.
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SKPRIMUS
Promising
Supreme Hero
The One and the Prime
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posted September 01, 2009 03:21 AM |
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Quote: I was joking Skprimus^^...
@Azagal, I know but I hear you & veco
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SKPRIMUS
Promising
Supreme Hero
The One and the Prime
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posted September 01, 2009 04:07 PM |
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Had a couple of duels with corcoran, he wanted to try nec v orcs.
After this, I'm totally having positive luck in all my duel games
& don't wish me "GL" before starting games, just "have fun" will do!
Thanks for good times corcoran, hope you will be playing plenty more games after this!
http://www.speedyshare.com/355126655.html
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Hope defeats despair - "a blatant clue"
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"to lose is to win, and he who wins shall lose"
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Elvin
Admirable
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Endless Revival
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posted September 01, 2009 06:18 PM |
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The one in dwarven terrain was lost due to no defense and necros having luck I believe. No sense in picking executioners unless they can do outstanding damage and also endure the first round. The second with stamina and bloodfire orcs were too strong to be contained. Or were they? The necromancer did not bide his time starting with mass cursing and woke the chieftains/cyclopes from torpor. The phoenix was summoned prematurely and was badly hurt by banshees.
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corcoran
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posted September 01, 2009 07:05 PM |
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Thx for the insight, Elvin My idea with executioners was to have them deal some scary early damage, then having them puppeted and using fear on them. Didnt expect the wraiths to be as scary (each game i tested this match up vs myself they were of nearly no use). Also looks like powerful blow -> stunning blow are just a waste of skill points vs such effective crowd control (vel torpor with soldiers luck). I took might over magic too, having 10 SP, hoping it will reduce SKPrimuses SP by the same amount, but its only 50%, so 18->13, im not sure if it was a good choice.
Not to mention orcs ring of celerity coupled with that blood fire and stamina When playing nec -- waking chiefs and cyclopes from torpor was just a nooby mistake of which i realised only after the second wake, when it was too late, then i only made it worse puppeting cyclopes instead of the highly mobile chiefs. Guess i shudve used mass spells first, but what i wanted, was to play like my RL friend who plays nec vs me (hence PM on cyclopes) to get an idea of what im doing wrong as orc against him. Never wouldve thought that phoenix was a spell to be used later.
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Elvin
Admirable
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Endless Revival
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posted September 01, 2009 07:17 PM |
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Excruciating strike isn't very bad with Kragh, however curses can reduce it's effectiveness. If it gets a double dmg it's 6 wraiths or 8 liches If you have 6+ spellpower I think might over magic is worth it, add 2 more levels in shatter summoning and you get back to the void for triple dmg on phoenix.
Reason I don't like phoenix that early is that there are still many goblins and the opponent is likely to have horde's anger - or fear my roar. Also orc forces are still strong and can possibly kill the phoenix themselves. Btw if you puppet goblins they don't add extra damage to horde's anger.
Another thing is that mass spells consume half initiative, one mass slow and mass endurance in one turn weaken their offensive quite a bit. Or a mass suffering. It's not just the default curse effect, slow reduces the rate at which they gain rage and makes them easier to focus fire on.
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shardik
Adventuring Hero
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posted September 01, 2009 10:05 PM |
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I'd like to get into this duel stuff, but whoever gets to play me the first couple of times will have to be patient.
Anyone up for the challenge in the near future?
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veco
Legendary Hero
who am I?
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posted September 01, 2009 10:08 PM |
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Edited by veco at 22:10, 01 Sep 2009.
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Sure, you can't be worse than Skprimus, can you?
I tried to play with Maniek but our connection didn't grant us this pleasure. Do you have hamachi and/or msn?
edit:
can't believe I finally snuck a post in before that Elf did
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 01, 2009 10:08 PM |
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I was wondering whether I should start a regular duel tournament here due to activity level but it seems possible joiners pop up all the time lately Get some practice, I'll start the second season as soon as my exams are over
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tann_141
Known Hero
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posted September 01, 2009 11:30 PM |
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hey elvin... i definately want in on that .... until then... ill be happy to play anyone for practice
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 01, 2009 11:40 PM |
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Remember you are also in the ToH duel tournament Though it's just 2-3 duels per week, shouldn't be much of an issue.
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corcoran
Tavern Dweller
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posted September 02, 2009 03:32 AM |
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feel free to catch me on msn when im on -- i probably am able to play. parano (at) o2 . pl
on a sidenote -- i got the 0.96 map, the 0.97b didnt work for me in the morning, not sure why, what are the are the differences between these 2 significant enuf to put some more effort in trying to make it work?
side side note: about gotai, he definitely shud be available, as its hard to get shout, and his special is near useless anyways (thats an answer to a question i read somewhere around here). And i wonder if availability of the +50% spell dmg arties arent too much of a liability to guys like orcs or humans, since it takes up the possible useful arties spots, especially that they're denied windstrider boots. Or is it a bad approach to this problem?
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SKPRIMUS
Promising
Supreme Hero
The One and the Prime
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posted September 02, 2009 05:46 AM |
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Edited by SKPRIMUS at 05:50, 02 Sep 2009.
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Quote: ..My idea with executioners was to have them deal some scary early damage, then having them puppeted and using fear on them. Didnt expect the wraiths to be as scary (each game i tested this match up vs myself they were of nearly no use)...Not to mention orcs ring of celerity coupled with that blood fire and stamina
@corcoran, with the wraiths, the necro was very lucky to have better might stats: Atk/Def = 5/18 v orcs without enlight of 15/7! AND also +1luck arti with luck retal killing 30 exes: never would have imagined that Plus had ALL good dark spells: mass slow/conf/suff/weak + PM/frenzy/blind...[you can tell I'm not afraid of shatter dark with necro] & you didn't have hordes anger?
With orcs, yeah all those artis/skill/perks + hordes anger for killing vamps +horeshoe was just plain lucky & I think you didnt have word of chief?
Not much one can do about imba luck, I'm expecting a run of bad luck (or maybe I've already had it)Quote: edit:
can't believe I finally snuck a post in before that Elf did
@veco: you're starting to sprout long pointy ears too
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Hope defeats despair - "a blatant clue"
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"to lose is to win, and he who wins shall lose"
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted September 02, 2009 07:47 AM |
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Edited by Azagal at 07:57, 02 Sep 2009.
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Quote: And i wonder if availability of the +50% spell dmg arties arent too much of a liability to guys like orcs or humans, since it takes up the possible useful arties spots, especially that they're denied windstrider boots. Or is it a bad approach to this problem?
I don't quite understand you. You can always remove the elemental boosting artefacts from your inventory and replace them with others you have? Sure it's not the biggest help if you get an elemental booster as Orcs (seriously... in 9 of 10 games I get one with them xD but only seldom with Dungeon) or Humans or Inferno but it's nothing that'd cost you the game. And Winderstrider boots out of the equasion is only a little set back from Inferno (and not really for Haven as far as I can see) but they manage without. Personally I believe they're a much lager liability in terms what they can do against you instead of for you.
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veco
Legendary Hero
who am I?
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posted September 02, 2009 10:19 AM |
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Quote: @veco: you're starting to sprout long pointy ears too
What does that mean?
Take'em off! Take'em off!
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shardik
Adventuring Hero
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posted September 02, 2009 11:11 AM |
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Edited by shardik at 11:14, 02 Sep 2009.
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Quote: Sure, you can't be worse than Skprimus, can you?
I tried to play with Maniek but our connection didn't grant us this pleasure. Do you have hamachi and/or msn?
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can't believe I finally snuck a post in before that Elf did
I do have hamachi, and I can begin to use msn again if it is required. I replaced it with skype a few years ago
Anyways, what is your msn, skype, or whatever you want to use for communication?
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corcoran
Tavern Dweller
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posted September 02, 2009 12:28 PM |
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Quote:
I don't quite understand you. You can always remove the elemental boosting artefacts from your inventory and replace them with others you have? Sure it's not the biggest help if you get an elemental booster as Orcs (seriously... in 9 of 10 games I get one with them xD but only seldom with Dungeon) or Humans or Inferno but it's nothing that'd cost you the game. And Winderstrider boots out of the equasion is only a little set back from Inferno (and not really for Haven as far as I can see) but they manage without. Personally I believe they're a much lager liability in terms what they can do against you instead of for you.
i mean they take up space in artifacts merchant.
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SKPRIMUS
Promising
Supreme Hero
The One and the Prime
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posted September 02, 2009 12:50 PM |
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Luck decided things again, thanks Azagal
http://www.speedyshare.com/977402979.html
[course it could just be a bluff with clever strategic goal]
(won't post the other one... didnt like it)
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 02, 2009 01:31 PM |
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LOL hilarious But word of chief on puppeted executioners might not have been the best move. Or frenzying cyclopes that were about to be slaughtered by said executioners. These guys were scary.
Now a dose of Elvin Luck! Seriously that was outrageous even for my standards.
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