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veco
Legendary Hero
who am I?
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posted December 11, 2009 10:35 PM |
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Edited by veco at 22:35, 11 Dec 2009.
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Imagine my disappoint when Golems killed 3 Treants instead of 4 and they regenerated right after. Or when Titans killed only 2 Unicorns instead of 3 and I had to kill them with mages insted of covering up their corpse
BUT!
I didn't suffer utter defeat today - behold: Orson may seem a bit scary but with only 75 mana I had an easy ride on this one. As Az admitted - Mass Endurance and Weakness right off the start would probably be better. Then again my Vermin would go on uninterrupted
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Elias_Maluco
Adventuring Hero
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posted December 12, 2009 07:24 PM |
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Im at home and bored and will be happy to fight anyone. Just send me a message if you are interested
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veco
Legendary Hero
who am I?
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posted December 15, 2009 11:42 PM |
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Edited by veco at 23:44, 15 Dec 2009.
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Azagal and I went on a journey to try out whacky builds that would actually work.
Dungeon Warlock vs Sylvan Warlock
We both had excellent spellpower, with me having High Druids to boost but mentor betrayed me and never offered Intelligence Still, good game, his creature damage was as good as his spells
Dungeon Necro vs Academy
The terrain and Ring of Caution made sure he could not reach my slowed army while I blasted him with destructive.
edit: note:
If you mark a creature with MotW and then it turns invisible - you can cancel invisibility by casting a spell elsewhere. MotW still works and it will reveal the unit
Inferno vs Academy Maeve
How good can a mentored lvl13 hero be vs a lvl21 demonlord? With 24knowlegde miniarties, enlightment, retribution and nice mana/spellpower arties you wouldn't tell it's only a lvl13 hero
killer gargs ftw!
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted December 16, 2009 12:19 AM |
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Good job 
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted December 16, 2009 12:20 AM |
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Edited by Azagal at 00:23, 16 Dec 2009.
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The last one was pretty embarresing. Circumstances could have been nicer to me, like not having your hero behind me all the time and a lucky gate, but then again you had a unlucky strike on my leapers and there were no terrain obstacles. Still wouldn't have thought that your damage would have been so insane with 12 Attack vs 0 Defense. Too bad Power of Endurance wasn't gonna show itself. And those Gargs were scary lol. 7 Ponies oO.
About the Necro Academy one. Well I wasn't prepared for a destro build (or for a dark build for that matter) and you really caught me panths down. Too bad really I'd love to see vampiric Red dragons run amok with AA. But then there's the problem of Magic Mirror... man that thing shouldn't work for blessings as well oO.
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SKPRIMUS
Promising
Supreme Hero
The One and the Prime
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posted December 18, 2009 03:25 PM |
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Gees, you guys are funny...high druids giving stuff all bonus due to low knowledge...lol at that double destructive spell action ...look at those stats on lvl 13 hero ...makes me feel like playing a game
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Hope defeats despair - "a blatant clue"
too many idiots in VW
"to lose is to win, and he who wins shall lose"
bashing orcus 
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted December 19, 2009 06:00 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 18:02, 19 Dec 2009.
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So here is my EPIC DUEL! One extra week armies, all spells available, toh chaos artifact setup. Balance needs to be tested though
For now unsure if sylvan avenger is fine as it is or how many paladins should be allowed. I've set it extra 10 pallies and gave academy artificer lvl 3, let's see how that works. Dv is the only spell I have reservations about, armageddon and the rest should be mostly fine.
Also I decreased lvl 3 population by one week.
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veco
Legendary Hero
who am I?
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posted December 19, 2009 06:18 PM |
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Edited by veco at 18:18, 19 Dec 2009.
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There is also a secret area now
Azagal, where are you? I want to try out Stronghold Warlocks!
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blizzardboy
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Nerf Herder
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posted December 19, 2009 07:23 PM |
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Quote:
Dungeon Warlock vs Sylvan Warlock
We both had excellent spellpower, with me having High Druids to boost but mentor betrayed me and never offered Intelligence Still, good game, his creature damage was as good as his spells
I. WANT. THAT.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted December 19, 2009 07:48 PM |
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blizzardboy
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Nerf Herder
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posted December 19, 2009 07:58 PM |
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No no no no no
Wizard + MotW + Wizard Spellpower + HIGH DRUID BOOST WITH WIZARD KNOWLEDGE + Emerald Slippers + IMPLOSION!!!
NO.
FIYA-BALL. With NATHIR and Phoenix Feather.
*swoons*
That sounds so hot.
My unnecessary army doesn't even take morale penalty.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted December 19, 2009 09:54 PM |
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Just wait and see what game we had with veco  He should be posting it soon.
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veco
Legendary Hero
who am I?
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posted December 19, 2009 10:01 PM |
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Behold
I'm a big fan of mentoring now
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted December 19, 2009 10:11 PM |
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I should note that I had adv sorcery and empathy. Because of my hot morale action, yeah! (...)
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted December 19, 2009 11:23 PM |
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Interesting game!! Academy really is a powerhouse with mentoring... just a question why didn't you equip the units with a few morale artifacts veco? Artificer level 3 is allowed so you should had the artifacts to atleast get a few on the shooters (which would have been a huge help, no?). And I think you could have made it a little closer if you'd woke the Palas after the second Blind instead of circle on the Grems and Golems they might have gotten a second action before Orson could cast again. Nevertheless nice game.
So who's going to play this map with me?
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SKPRIMUS
Promising
Supreme Hero
The One and the Prime
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posted December 20, 2009 02:02 AM |
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wow, veco really knows his stuff ...MotN {such confidence!}...then even tho a number of pallys remained he knew his forces were strong enough without cautiously casting another blind...I'm guessing not enough resources for 3rd mini-arties...but I was expecting arma'd knight when destructive was mentioned
That aca mentoring different hero type thingy really could be a legit thingy in a real game {gotta try it out}
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Hope defeats despair - "a blatant clue"
too many idiots in VW
"to lose is to win, and he who wins shall lose"
bashing orcus
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted December 20, 2009 02:45 AM |
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Edited by Elvin at 02:45, 20 Dec 2009.
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It is, whether it is an honourable tactic is a subjective issue. Been used in the past, wizard mentors a knight or ranger, gets attack, defense, light(or dark) and with artificer he rather easily overwhelms opponent might faction. Think it was pera that used it first, in hourglass. In a large map where you get above lvl 25 the mentored hero is almost same level.
Anyways we had an agreement to pick weird builds only so I didn't try the traditional light build Azagal later challenged me under the same condition so I proudly present you the results!
- First game puts my Yrwanna leading inferno against Irina's haven. I got staff of netherworld, defense, meteor and armageddon which I felt gave me an edge, turned out Azagal was well prepared.
- Second one was a traditional cotn spamming necropolis against fortress. His 3 priest stacks were deadly with mark of fire but thankfully my boots of speed lent me their aid a few times. I had Sandro's cloak and so able to puppet magmas or battleragers but the combined fireballs forced me to go for cotn. Funny thing is I was aiming for mass decay but never got the mastery, wasn't needed after all. Oh yes, I also had ring of unrepentant so I was immune to his word of light and coupled with my staff it gave -1 speed.
- Third was the most interesting. My demonlord went warmachines against sylvan while also having stormwind and staff(again). Ballista was more for a pre-emptive strike as there was high likelihood it would shoot before druids or arcanes. That was not the case but it had nice support fire, thankfully I also had divine vengeance to take down the unicorns. That had vampirism, sneaky sneaky Azagal 
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veco
Legendary Hero
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posted December 20, 2009 04:07 PM |
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Regarding our game - when I realised that I could make lvl3 arties it was too late. Razzak was stuck on lvl2 artifacter and I didn't have cash to mentor.
Killer gargs appeared again killin 3 palas at the end
Now off to watch those ones.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted December 23, 2009 10:33 AM |
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Edited by Elvin at 10:35, 23 Dec 2009.
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Played a few games with phoenix, he sure remembers how to play but I was kinda lucky.
First was my academy vs inferno, a rather peculiar game. I wasted all my spare gold plus 20 djinns' worth on mentor before I was offered light Of course that way I had no mass buffs so with tome of light and skull of Markal I depended on word of light spam. The inferno guys were more resilient than I thought, had their share of resists too. But he was betrayed by stats.. just look at the demonlord's stats! Overall nice game.
Second one was sylvan against my dwarves. I got dwarven armour and shield against destructive build so he could barely hurt me. I lacked any other destructive protection, if not for the set it would hurt and sting
Final game was my dungeon against his orcs. This game was not concluded as he had to go but it's worth just to see my furies kill 4 cyclopes without luck 
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Here's an update of the epic map.
Added berserker favoured to sylvan, pre-built academy and dungeon artifact merchants, decreased academy resources for minies. I'll be posting tomorrow the final map for the tourney
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phoenixreborn
Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
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posted December 23, 2009 12:57 PM |
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Still tweaking? Don't forget about artificer resources too.
"Balance" is always elusive. 
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