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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted November 10, 2009 01:12 PM |
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Wow if that is correct I have made an epic blunder. Will correct immediately 
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SKPRIMUS
Promising
Supreme Hero
The One and the Prime
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posted November 10, 2009 02:16 PM |
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Edited by SKPRIMUS at 15:19, 10 Nov 2009.
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...I believe you just raised the defense reduction from arcane archers to 80%, at least according to asheeras testing:...
Wow, good pickup magnomagus...luckily it didn't affect any real games & modrons can't cry  [ofc those MH were dead even without any def reduction]
edit: Hang on, I just checked replay again to try to arrive at 2726 damage... it appears that avenger x 2 is multiplicative with luck x 2 = total x 4 [whereas the manual p287 would appear to say it's additive = total x 3  ]
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Hope defeats despair - "a blatant clue"
too many idiots in VW
"to lose is to win, and he who wins shall lose"
bashing orcus 
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted November 10, 2009 04:21 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 16:23, 10 Nov 2009.
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rottenvenetic
Known Hero
Derusticated
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posted November 15, 2009 09:15 PM |
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Any comers for some 1.1? I need practice, I hardly get any play time at all. Won't be long into the night though, I've less than 8 hours before I have to be at work.
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In the darkness, a blind man is the best guide; in an age of madness, look to the madman to lead the way.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted November 15, 2009 09:44 PM |
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Don't worry about that, 1.1 is history. The new version is quite different and nobody is too experienced with its balance, will post it soon.
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rottenvenetic
Known Hero
Derusticated
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posted November 15, 2009 09:48 PM |
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I've got that, so guess I can try it too, but I got badly manhandled on it by my horrible luck and Primus. Is there any way to make the game less of a roll of the dice?
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted November 15, 2009 09:53 PM |
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Sure but what's the fun in that? Gotta tell you though, even that way it's not as random as it looks. In fact where artifact systems are concerned this is the fairest, lowest chance for someone to get good arties and his opponent bad ones. And zero chance to mess up your build due to buying too many or too few arties.
If anything this version favours you. Care to play a few games for training?
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted November 18, 2009 07:18 PM |
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So who's in for some sparring? A little pre-tournament testing can't hurt^^.
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"All I can see is what's in front of me. And all I can do is keep moving forward" - The Heir Wielder of Names, Seeker of Thrones, King of Swords, Breaker of Infinities, Wheel Smashing Lord
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veco
Legendary Hero
who am I?
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posted November 18, 2009 07:29 PM |
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none of my business.
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted November 18, 2009 10:03 PM |
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Veco vs Azagal
Sylvan vs Fortress
Was fun I'm becoming a really big fan of defensive formation. Well I must say the thunderclap triggers were amazing for me and cleansing sealed the deal nicely.
Academy vs Sylvan
This was fun he had a whoooping 32 Knowledge with gave him a nice 9 defense boost which was a huge pain in the behind when he defended with his units. I made a few mistakes but the best one was probably to never ressurect the AAs and moving them in the first place. Those clouds... I never saw them xD.
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"All I can see is what's in front of me. And all I can do is keep moving forward" - The Heir Wielder of Names, Seeker of Thrones, King of Swords, Breaker of Infinities, Wheel Smashing Lord
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Mytical
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Chaos seeking Harmony
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posted November 18, 2009 10:41 PM |
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Had some matches against Skprimus for fun, and I learned a few things.
Haven should have hut (or someway) of always getting haste. Also, forget which hero SK had with Necro, but raise dead of 1100 hp is insane. He ressed 12 Wraiths for 7 mana. I MIGHT have had a chance if not for that. Even with it, I put up a heck of a fight. High defense + defense skill was what gave me even the chance I had..oh and a lucky first charge from some Pallys.
I stink something awful with inferno, I mean...I am kinda bad at the rest, but this enters a whole new realm of suckingness.
Necro with no defense vs Dwarves is a bad bad bad idea. Within a round I had NO chance at all.
As always my opponit claims bad luck for me with matchups. Nah, I know they are just a lot better then me. A whole lot better. It was fun though. SK will probably have a more complete match up report.
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SKPRIMUS
Promising
Supreme Hero
The One and the Prime
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posted November 18, 2009 10:58 PM |
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Edited by SKPRIMUS at 23:15, 18 Nov 2009.
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1110hp raise dead
Hey that was fast!
1110hp raise dead
I think it may be a bit imba for nicolai (raise dead specialty plus master of life) to have such a raise dead against haven, unless haven player knows right way to defeat necro [not many who do know].
Mytical's build was not bad for haven in general, but unfortunate couldn't get enlightenment.
I tried a mass haste sorcery summoning lucky necro too.
Sorry that was just spamming one spell raise dead intermixed with fire trap [I had arcane training so raise dead only 7 mana too]
Funnily enough I got arcane excellence giving 100 mana so didn't even visit well...
Yeah other games were disadvantage for my honourable fun opponent.
Overall, I believe that for the non-elite:
Dwarves > Inferno (unless inferno get enlightenment & leadership?)
Dungeon > Necro (bit slow to kill dungeon)
but anyway that's my opinion for now until I play more inf v dwa games [doesn't mean happens every time tho]
But once one realises when one needs defence skill/power of endurance...[most matchups need defence skill but not all]
[gonna play against Elias (unless you want to Mytical since I know you two have similar records in toh duel tourny )]
Thanks for fun games Mytical
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Hope defeats despair - "a blatant clue"
too many idiots in VW
"to lose is to win, and he who wins shall lose"
bashing orcus
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Mytical
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Chaos seeking Harmony
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posted November 18, 2009 11:01 PM |
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Nah I am done for night, got to tend to the bruises from the beatings I took.
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SKPRIMUS
Promising
Supreme Hero
The One and the Prime
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posted November 18, 2009 11:02 PM |
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Edited by SKPRIMUS at 23:08, 18 Nov 2009.
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aww, he wanted to play you too [anyway, there's always a serendipitous silver lining ]
edit: oh I always make sure haven has mass haste either via town/spell stones/MoW or PoS; but can occasionally not get it due to picking enlightenment very early level-up
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Hope defeats despair - "a blatant clue"
too many idiots in VW
"to lose is to win, and he who wins shall lose"
bashing orcus
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted November 18, 2009 11:24 PM |
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Edited by Azagal at 23:33, 18 Nov 2009.
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Haven should have hut (or someway) of always getting haste.
It's called "Power of Speed" it's a very easily obtained perk for every faction except Orcs. All you need to do is get Battle frenzy and then advanced attack... it's not that difficult.
But the match ups sk is talking about are indeed tipped towards one side before they start, but not at all hopeless. Swarming Gating vs. Dwarves together wit Power of Endurance can help if you have the time for it before you're annihilated.
And Necro Dungeon is hard... you need to be fast so I'd always recommend Power of Speed and if you're lucky you can outlast him with raise dead AA or a killer phoenix.
EDIT: Just watched your replay... well you could have won that one Mytical but you didn't train Pallies, you didn't dive with your Griffins what ever for? Their damage is insane and they're unhitable it's awesome+no blessing your archers (it's not a must but it seemed like a way better idea than edurancing 6 palas)+ no covering corpses and you were indeed unlucky because Primus got "Luck" (it only has a 2% chance) with Necro which is a sweeeeeeet skill with them.
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"All I can see is what's in front of me. And all I can do is keep moving forward" - The Heir Wielder of Names, Seeker of Thrones, King of Swords, Breaker of Infinities, Wheel Smashing Lord
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SKPRIMUS
Promising
Supreme Hero
The One and the Prime
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posted November 18, 2009 11:39 PM |
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only allowed 18 pallys
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Hope defeats despair - "a blatant clue"
too many idiots in VW
"to lose is to win, and he who wins shall lose"
bashing orcus
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted November 19, 2009 01:57 AM |
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My apologies you're right of course.
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"All I can see is what's in front of me. And all I can do is keep moving forward" - The Heir Wielder of Names, Seeker of Thrones, King of Swords, Breaker of Infinities, Wheel Smashing Lord
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Mytical
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Chaos seeking Harmony
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posted November 19, 2009 02:09 AM |
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Yes I know there is the power of speed, but I am talking the actual spell. Because with somebody like Mauve (spelling) haven would actually be stronger.
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted November 19, 2009 02:13 AM |
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Well giving them haste is kind of an unfair advantage... since you only have to go light instead of spending at least 4 points 4 skill points in order to get the skill, not to mention that it takes up 1 of your 5 skill slots, gives room for retribution and tactics, etc. etc.
I think it's too much of a boost Haven isn't that bad in my opinion.
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"All I can see is what's in front of me. And all I can do is keep moving forward" - The Heir Wielder of Names, Seeker of Thrones, King of Swords, Breaker of Infinities, Wheel Smashing Lord
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SKPRIMUS
Promising
Supreme Hero
The One and the Prime
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posted November 19, 2009 02:31 AM |
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Edited by SKPRIMUS at 06:58, 19 Nov 2009.
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hehe, maybe you should play each other to resolve
haste or no haste in haven town/spell stones is a big difference but only in some matchup
Had some fun games with Elias too, thanks {what a great day!}. Most interesting were:
Elias garuna Primus alaron
I was absolutely confident in this one...see where the error was made due to faulty memory:? maybe there was a j1nx...[opponent had decent build too, without enlight, so that was good]
Luckfest with morale
The 3rd game was a great fun luckfest with morale...I just love those type of games between might factions ...result could have went either way
This time my artis were not too imba - thanks Elvin for good decision to remove ring of speed & staff of netherworld - that ring of speed/windstrider boots combo was just woah
Also there's nothing better than organising a set time like with Mytical & we were both there on time or earlier... beats hanging around hoping for games that's for sure
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Hope defeats despair - "a blatant clue"
too many idiots in VW
"to lose is to win, and he who wins shall lose"
bashing orcus
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